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Zendaya's role in SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING has been revealed!

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

Black Lives Matter.
 
Seriously though, this thread would be 10 times longer and way more Amazing if they made Peter black.

Donald would have been so good. He could have played fully grown ass adult Peter. With a white wife and mixed kid. It would have been Spectacular.
 

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okay thank god cause I'm so use to seeing shit like that in a serious manner

Me too. It's almost a risk these days because no matter how far you take it, someone a few posts up is saying something even dumber sincerely.
 

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Seriously though, this thread would be 10 times longer and way more Amazing if they made Peter black.

Donald would have been so good. He could have played fully grown ass adult Peter. With a wife and kid. It would have been Spectacular.
It's sad we'll never teacher Peter Parker
 

Dai101

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

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And is Z-E-N-D-A-Y-A. Is really that hard?
 

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I'm just now realizing what a trope this is

Benny Cumby as Khan

JGL as Robin

Guy Pierce as the Real Mandarin

It's dumb and I hate it
 
Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.
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Shaanyboi

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.
Stop.
 
Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

fuck outta here
 

Sojgat

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

In what way is MJ being white a crucial element of her character?

Got anything?

Don't worry, I'll wait.
 

Grizzlyjin

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

*looks at avatar*

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I mean, shouldn't they have cast a blind actor for Daredevil then?
 
No S-curl or trunks.


No Blonde hair.


No waves.


No... really anything Star Lord whatsoever.


Even if you take just the costumes, they are best are only rough approximations of what's in the comics. Amazing 2 and Iron Man are probably the closest? Once again? I have no clue where they were going with Scarlet Witch.

This isn't making the argument obtuse. This is arguing that everything is already changing, so drawing the line at this seems odd.

Caring about visual signifiers, okay, but what is the character about? Does this version of Mary Jane fit with this version of Peter Parker? How do they interact? What kind of relationship do they have? I find these more important than her hair or race. And for a grand number of characters, these traits do not define their characters in any fashion.

Steve Rogers is a good example of one where it does: given the time period he is directly from and he function there as a propaganda tool, having be non-white would drastically change the character. He needs to be white. He doesn't need to be blonde haired and blue eyed, that's just frosting. But white? That's a big facet of the character.

There are others, but for many? You can do whatever in the confines of an adaptation and still retain that character's personality or function.

You're really missing the point. MJ is to red hair as Supes is to the S on the chest. I care a ton about how MJ interacts with Pete but you're taking away from that characters identity. Like I said no one gives a flying fuck about Flash having blonde hair. The equivalent would be like a green costume.
 
Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.
She can act just like MJ in the comics but her skin color is what's gonna turn you off?
 

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I mean, just as long as he still lives with Aunt May and is single and constantly dating hot chicks. I hear kids can't relate to married characters.

I stopped reading Spider-Man regularly after Straczynski wrapped up. God, I hate Dan Slott so much.
 

Grizzlyjin

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You're really missing the point. MJ is to red hair as Supes is to the S on the chest. I care a ton about how MJ interacts with Pete but you're taking away from that characters identity. Like I said no one gives a flying fuck about Flash having blonde hair. The equivalent would be like a green costume.

Sounds like you should be complaining to Marvel about why "red hair" is the #1 defining character trait when someone is asked to describe who Mary-Jane Watson is as a character.

EDIT: I wonder how people are going to react about Captain Marvel's haircut. I bet if she doesn't have her modern side shave or whatever there will be riots.
 
My only regret with Spidey is that he doesn't really make a good movie character. He would be so much better in a netflix series with DD and the others.
 

Nudull

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Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

IT BEGINS.
 
Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

This post is a fucking wreck from top to bottom. Kindly tell me how/why MJ needs to be why. Tell me.
 

El Topo

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God, I hate Dan Slott so much.

His Silver Surfer series (with Dawn) is great though.

Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

Did you hate when they didn't cast a blind guy with flaming red hair as Matt Murdock?
 
Not this shit again...How about we make Luke Cage asian and Black Panther a white guy instead. That's okay right?
Nothing against Zenyatta, I'm just sometimes sick of corporate decisions of disregarding the idea of being a faithful to the source material just because of whatever reasons.

Of all the race changes that the movies have made White Black Panther is the one I wanted to see. Let's get crazy Marvel
 

Stinkles

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Black Panther is one of the few characters that his race is integral to the character. Luke Cage? Sure.

I don't know if you're an expert on Black Guy Stuff, but I am. It's about honor and oppression. Luke Cage protects the hood from black and occasionally voodoo corruption and whitey oppression.

Luke Cage has to be black.
 

El Topo

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People are pressed about the under representation of white women in hollywood.

We know women as a whole are (very) underrepresented, how is the situation (statistically) for white women? That said, why would anyone be angry about more diversity among female representation?
I mean, other than you-know-who.
 

guek

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I stopped reading Spider-Man regularly after Straczynski wrapped up. God, I hate Dan Slott so much.

You and me both. He's the height of mediocrity permanently attached to my favorite comicbook character.

Sounds like you should be complaining to Marvel about why "red hair" is the #1 defining character trait when someone is asked to describe who Mary-Jane Watson is as a character.

EDIT: I wonder how people are going to react about Captain Marvel's haircut. I bet if she doesn't have her modern side shave or whatever there will be riots.

It's not so much that red hair is the ONLY thing that defines MJ but it's certainly a big part of her identity. The same goes for characters like Jean Grey, it wouldn't feel right if she weren't a redhead. Liz Allen becoming Hispanic in Spectacular for example wasn't a big deal because even though her character is traditionally white and blonde, it wasn't a defining trait of hers. Feeling change though and it'll be easier to accept this casting choice once we actually see it in action.
 

User1608

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This is awesome. And who gives a shit about her being of a different race/ethnicity (or rather, not being white like in the comics), this is fucking set in the MCU which exists in a fucking multiverse. Anything. Is. Possible. Christ.
 

Sou Da

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I don't know if you're an expert on Black Guy Stuff, but I am. It's about honor and oppression. Luke Cage protects the hood from black and occasionally voodoo corruption and whitey oppression.

Luke Cage has to be black.

As we can see from this thread, hair is equally important too. So I ask you as an expert in this field: Does Luke Cage have to be bald?
 
I figured Zendaya Zenyatta was Liz Allen but I knew a shit storm was brewing when I saw 19 pages.

Also, how does everyone know she won't have red hair? Unless you thought that was Kirsten Dunst's natural hair...
 

guek

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As we can see from this thread, hair is equally important too. So I ask you as an expert in this field: Does Luke Cage have to be bald?

It's not the same for every character though.

Steve Rogers for example has to have some blonde in his hair. Steve having jet black hair wouldn't feel right. The same goes for Tony Stark if he was clean shaven. If Misty Knight was white, it'd be really shitty but if Betty Brant was black, meh.
 
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