I can't wait to see if they let Misty Knight have an afro
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Zendaya's role in SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING has been revealed!
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I can't wait to see if they let Misty Knight have an afro
Put hank pym, clint barton, johnny storm, steve rogers and the original human torch in the same room in regular clothes I defy you to tell them apart
My entire post was a poorly made bald joke being lobbed at Stinkles, but I appreciate the thoughtful replies.
Dark Ninja
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At least they got someone who believably could be a model
Scrooge McDuck
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It doesn't have to have anything to do with Mary-Jane Watson is as a character. We are talking about visual traits, here. I'm sure there'd be pages of people complaining to if the Spider-Man appeared in Civil War wearing a black/neon green costume for the entire time.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
hank is talking to himself, clint is balancing on the back of a chair. johnny is hitting on the closest attractive woman, cap is drawing on a desk, and jim is left
I don't think Chris Evans can be in 2 places at once
It's not like we're seeing Mary Jane onscreen for the first time.
lightskintwin
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Am I only the only one that likes certain casting decisions made, just because it pisses off a small demographic of white people .
I feel like a hippie.
I feel like a hippie.
broncobuster
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Johnny and Clint have hair that go up. Steve and Hank have hair combed down. Big difference.
That's not her name. The rest was already covered.
Jim and Johnny have the same costume but with a different icon framing and half of the artists that draw them forget it, it made Standoff confusing as hell.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Okay. I think if a character's hair color is a big part of their identity, then they're probably a paper thin character. I mean you could probably exclude Aquaman from that list because you could do some interesting things with the prejudices that cultures create but DC ain't touching that shit.
Who decides what is and isn't a "defining trait." You mention Liz Allen, so what makes her situation different? Because there are other blonde in the comics? Because blondes are more common? Because people don't care about the character as much? Because they've consistently been portrayed in the comics that way and people want rigid adaptations of looks? What is it?
More like
"Face it tiger..."
*credits*
this especially works because it's supposed to be a high school coming of age story, right?
The movie's name is Homecoming.
The movie will end with Peter meeting MJ to go to the homecoming dance. Count on it.
This is why the release of Black Panther will be like Christmas to me
Nintendoga
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I'm not fully convinced she'd make a good MJ, but after looking up pics of her she might be able to pull it off look wise.
Acting wise though...well my cousin used to watch that dance show with her, but i won't judge it by that cause Disney Sitcom. And Disney Sitcoms are...yeah. I'm sure she's gotten better since then.
The real issue here is, DC or not, Marvel NEEDS to get JK Simmons back for JJ's role in whatever upcoming Spider-Man movie he'll be in. I won't accept any substitutes.
Acting wise though...well my cousin used to watch that dance show with her, but i won't judge it by that cause Disney Sitcom. And Disney Sitcoms are...yeah. I'm sure she's gotten better since then.
The real issue here is, DC or not, Marvel NEEDS to get JK Simmons back for JJ's role in whatever upcoming Spider-Man movie he'll be in. I won't accept any substitutes.
Jim:"You know I killed Hilter"
Cap:"This motherfucker with the 'I killed hitler' story again"
Ninja Scooter
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Holy shit this is stupid as hell.
The great thing about these castings for comic book movies is that they are harder to avoid for them. If someone is cast for a Hunger Games movie, they just won't watch it, but Spider-Man?
Exploratory
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Would you say the same thing about Batmans bat symbol or his cowl? Or Supermans S? Is the only thing that defines Batman his cowl or is it just integral to his character design? No one said it was the #1 defining character trait you're putting words into people's mouths.
Someone oughtta collect all of these "Mary Jane should be..." sentiments in a masterpost. I'm gonna link to it every time someone thinks GAF is progressive.
lightskintwin
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DontBeThatGuy
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And yet they'll still be mad
Yes, that was said. I could link you the post if I werent so lazy right now.
DontBeThatGuy
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Scrooge McDuck
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Spider-Man has appeared numerous times in the movies, each with different costumes. And every time people put every element of his costume under scrutiny, including their shade of colors. It's what people do.
I just find this whole "characterization is the only thing that matters" argument weird. To begin with, it's not like we can actually discuss that because none of us have watched the movie. And just because it's the most important thing, it doesn't mean that other aspects of a character are non-existent people can't care about those.
broncobuster
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Peter Quill
Point being that most objections are from people that would struggle to name a single other defining trait that is integral to the character besides being Peter's fixtion. But you already know this.
MHWilliams
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Yes, but the flipside isn't "I prefer the red hair" which I've said I agree with. That's an understandable take. It's "without red hair, it's not Mary Jane", which is a perplexing take for any adaptation. It's not a defining facet of the character and like many other adapted heroes, visual and even character resists change all the time.
I'd write more, but I'm on mobile now.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
And how many different variations of Batman's bat symbol and cowl have been in the comics and films? What, like 50? Maybe more with different combinations. When you walked out of a Batman or Superman movie was your experience impacted more by a shitty nonsensical plot or a comic accurate costume?
With a costume, you could literally show a costume designer a page from a comic and they could replicate it. It might not look good on film or be comfortable for actor, but it could be done. Mary-Jane Watson doesn't exist. You could do an open casting call for red heads in Hollywood, or you could just cast someone you feel is a good fit for the character and make concessions on them looking exactly like they did in the comic. The biggest problem with fan castings is they just want someone that looks like a character. Oh, he has grey hair. He's perfect. So what's more important, the creative team casting someone they think is right for the role as it is written, or getting a high budget cosplay?
bananafactory
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Because 'Spider-Man' is literally the costume, otherwise it's just Peter Parker. Thats why people care about what it looks like.
Mary Jane is an actual person, the visual details of her are relatively insignificant
ryutaro's mama
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How about they just do both? Zen can have red hair.
So it's clear by now that everyone's identity is wrapped up in their race first and foremost.
That being the case, seems like all white people have to be taught that they have it good in terms of representation. Maybe we should put it in schools.
It really feels like they were setting up this casting to be a switcheroo gotcha surprise kinda thing, so the lack of red hair makes sense. Any other complaint about her in the role probably stems from the phenomenon above.
That being the case, seems like all white people have to be taught that they have it good in terms of representation. Maybe we should put it in schools.
It really feels like they were setting up this casting to be a switcheroo gotcha surprise kinda thing, so the lack of red hair makes sense. Any other complaint about her in the role probably stems from the phenomenon above.
Jack The Nipper
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From the comics I never picture mart Jane with that personality type. More rough. Rugged and playful
IIRC, the Ultimate version of her was supposed to be a nerd
Jason Sudakis would be a fine replacement
illmatic22
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I know mystic Asian is a disliked trope but this casting bothered me.
Bluekaveli
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What happened?
melonrabbit
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She'll probably dye her hair for the prom scene at the end of the movie.
Had a feeling she was Gwen or MJ given how extremely quiet they've been about her role. Also didn't think Zendaya would be cast as a minor part.
Had a feeling she was Gwen or MJ given how extremely quiet they've been about her role. Also didn't think Zendaya would be cast as a minor part.
bananafactory
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Yeah for a while there she was basically the only female cast member announced outside of Tomei, in comparison to like 10 dudes. It was obvious her character would be a big one
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
That's a pretty ballsy move.
Curious to see how the fandom will react.
We already know how they are going to react.... Salty
Jack The Nipper
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Maybe, xmen felt distracting at times.
But the feeling and general movie will likely feel like all marvel movies which is well below movies like sin, blade etc
They always seem to draw off the same cheese style, lines and even the way they setup scenes and camera angles. I just can't be hyped for marvel movies until someone else steps up.
Hope for a new blade or for McFarlane to hit a new spawn hard. If gladly take three spawns, cartoon is great.
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