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[ap_puff]

If “built” means character and engine are at level 60, skills maxed, and sub-engines (I forget their proper name) more or less optimized, Ellen is the only one I’ve “built” (and even then her sub engines need some work still) and I’ve been playing since launch more or less. But not everyone has time to fully dive into every aspect of the game consistently all the time, for about a month I was just doing my dailies and not really building anyone just because I was very busy at that time. Plus, while I enjoy ZZZ, I personally find Honkai Star Rail’s building/combat more engaging so I do tend to focus on that more, whereas ZZZ I’m not too worried at the moment about maxing out characters. Heck, that one recent event highlighted this: “don’t have high level characters? No worries, here’s a ton of trial level 55 characters for you to max out this event’s rewards!”

I know the higher level hunts and the hard mode version of missions do need pretty strong characters, but I’ve been selective on who I pull (got Ellen and Zhu Yuan, haven’t pulled since until Burnice comes out) compared to Star Rail as I only find some ZZZ characters appealing (and some of them are A-tier or standard S-tier). So I’m hardly hurting for pull currency.

The games core design is based around faction-paired duos. For example koleda and Ben are designed as a pair, they even have unique attack animations when they're in the same team. Ellen and lycaon are designed to team up, qingyi and zhu yuan, for Jane it is Seth. If you don't care about maximizing her abilities then just put whoever, but I assume you wanted to pull some of her maximum combat abilities out. If you don't have or don't want to build Seth, then your choices are basically just use her with someone that buffs her attack. If you have a piper you can also run her there, put 4p freedom blues on piper and run fanged metal on Jane. Jane really wants to spend most of her time on field and doesn't really care about stun. You can play soukaku with her, but IDK about koleda, imo you'd rather just keep Jane on field than trying to stun with koleda

 

[Doom85]

The games core design is based around faction-paired duos. For example koleda and Ben are designed as a pair, they even have unique attack animations when they're in the same team. Ellen and lycaon are designed to team up, qingyi and zhu yuan, for Jane it is Seth. If you don't care about maximizing her abilities then just put whoever, but I assume you wanted to pull some of her maximum combat abilities out. If you don't have or don't want to build Seth, then your choices are basically just use her with someone that buffs her attack. If you have a piper you can also run her there, put 4p freedom blues on piper and run fanged metal on Jane. Jane really wants to spend most of her time on field and doesn't really care about stun. You can play soukaku with her, but IDK about koleda, imo you'd rather just keep Jane on field than trying to stun with koleda

I don’t really care about team meta. In Star Rail, I don’t pull for characters I don’t like in-story to varying degrees (so no Ruan Mei, Aventurine, Kafka, Blade, Jade) even though I’m constantly hit with people going, “well, your Black Swan isn’t optimized without Kafka!” and the like. And it’s like, “oh no, I might only be able to 90% the latest endgame mode! I’ll be missing out on a whooping 80 Stellar Jade!” Like, pulling characters I don’t want would cost more than that.

My mindset is always:

-pull the characters I like in story (Ellen was a tsundere maid, instant pull. Zhu Yuan was a cool badass I vibed with, she felt worth pulling. Burnice I will most likely pull, unless in story she annoys me. Mind you, I’ve not disliked any of the other pullable characters in ZZZ yet, just the ones I have skipped I thought were just okay in the story)
-build them strongly by themselves (so I have their signature engine, and max their skills and reasonably optimize their sub engines. I follow certain sites’ build advice on what sub engines to go for so I don’t need to think about it too much)
-then with the characters who meet those two requirements, I will put them on teams with how I see fit. I will not waste resources and time building a character I do not like or simply find forgettable even if my team “needs it”. Now, obviously I won’t ever have limited 5 stars I skip, but say the day ever comes I get Yanqing on the standard banner in Star Rail (better not, only standard 5 stars I’m missing are him and Himeko, and I want Himeko!). Even if a mode would clearly be easier if I built him, I would never do so because I still don’t like Yanqing (sorry, I know some fans are warming up to him in the latest story update, I still find him unremarkable and occasionally annoying).

Sorry if I come off as defensive, I just think people should know not everyone thinks about the meta as much as everyone else. I want my individual characters to be as strong as they can be EXCEPT for pairing them with characters I don’t care about. That’s just how I roll.

 

[ap_puff]

I don’t really care about team meta. In Star Rail, I don’t pull for characters I don’t like in-story to varying degrees (so no Ruan Mei, Aventurine, Kafka, Blade, Jade) even though I’m constantly hit with people going, “well, your Black Swan isn’t optimized without Kafka!” and the like. And it’s like, “oh no, I might only be able to 90% the latest endgame mode! I’ll be missing out on a whooping 80 Stellar Jade!” Like, pulling characters I don’t want would cost more than that.

My mindset is always:

-pull the characters I like in story (Ellen was a tsundere maid, instant pull. Zhu Yuan was a cool badass I vibed with, she felt worth pulling. Burnice I will most likely pull, unless in story she annoys me. Mind you, I’ve not disliked any of the other pullable characters in ZZZ yet, just the ones I have skipped I thought were just okay in the story)
-build them strongly by themselves (so I have their signature engine, and max their skills and reasonably optimize their sub engines. I follow certain sites’ build advice on what sub engines to go for so I don’t need to think about it too much)
-then with the characters who meet those two requirements, I will put them on teams with how I see fit. I will not waste resources and time building a character I do not like or simply find forgettable even if my team “needs it”. Now, obviously I won’t ever have limited 5 stars I skip, but say the day ever comes I get Yanqing on the standard banner in Star Rail (better not, only standard 5 stars I’m missing are him and Himeko, and I want Himeko!). Even if a mode would clearly be easier if I built him, I would never do so because I still don’t like Yanqing (sorry, I know some fans are warming up to him in the latest story update, I still find him unremarkable and occasionally annoying).

Sorry if I come off as defensive, I just think people should know not everyone thinks about the meta as much as everyone else. I want my individual characters to be as strong as they can be EXCEPT for pairing them with characters I don’t care about. That’s just how I roll.

Just play her with who you like then, there's really no character that "can't" work with anyone else in this game. And Jane is a field time hog so you could even just run her solo if you wanted.

 

[SSfox]

You only have 3 characters built? Did you just start playing? Jane really wants her core passive active .. that means someone in her faction or another anomaly character.

No I'm day one. I have my main quite solid team with Zhu Yuan, Qing Yi, Nicole (C6), with Cui Bangboo

I'm trying finding a solid second team, I already had Neko build she was my early dps carry before Zhu, then I recently build Koleda since I have her C1R1, last slot I just slapped Soukakou cause she's C6 and heard she's gold. don't I have any other anomaly character, I have no Piper should I try to grab her?

My initial plan was just to wait for Miyabi, but it may take a while and I didn't wanted to spend months with a random 2nd team. So I was ok what if I do few pulls on Jane Do and see what happens, and she came in just one ten pulls This is my earliest ever in a character banner. My earliest record was Nahida in Genshin that I got at 28.

 

[ap_puff]

No I'm day one. I have my main quite solid team with Zhu Yuan, Qing Yi, Nicole (C6), with Cui Bangboo

I'm trying finding a solid second team, I already had Neko build she was my early dps carry before Zhu, then I recently build Koleda since I have her C1R1, last slot I just slapped Soukakou cause she's C6 and heard she's gold. don't I have any other anomaly character, I have no Piper should I try to grab her?

My initial plan was just to wait for Miyabi, but it may take a while and I didn't wanted to spend months with a random 2nd team. So I was ok what if I do few pulls on Jane Do and see what happens, and she came in just one ten pulls This is my earliest ever in a character banner. My earliest record was Nahida in Genshin that I got at 28.

You can play Jane with Neko, I would put qingyi on Jane and Neko's team and go with anby and nicole on zhu yuan team. Yeah qingyi is supposed to go with zhu yuan but zhu is already strong enough with Nicole's help. For qingyi Neko Jane I would only stay on qingyi until you get the stun multiplier buff then spend the rest of the time on Jane, only bring Neko on field during stun to do ex/ult and then swap back to jane

 

[SSfox]

You can play Jane with Neko, I would put qingyi on Jane and Neko's team and go with anby and nicole on zhu yuan team. Yeah qingyi is supposed to go with zhu yuan but zhu is already strong enough with Nicole's help. For qingyi Neko Jane I would only stay on qingyi until you get the stun multiplier buff then spend the rest of the time on Jane, only bring Neko on field during stun to do ex/ult and then swap back to jane

Okay gotcha, I really like Qinq Yi she's my favorite character right now. So it's better to use Anby than Koleda C1R1 with Zhu Yuan?

 

[ap_puff]

Okay gotcha, I really like Qinq Yi she's my favorite character right now. So it's better to use Anby than Koleda C1R1 with Zhu Yuan?

I don't know I just put the combination that activates all the core passives, koleda is probably better but I tend to take a lot of damage when I play her since I'm more used to anbys combos

 

[ap_puff]

Spoiler: nsfw

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Okay gotcha, I really like Qinq Yi she's my favorite character right now. So it's better to use Anby than Koleda C1R1 with Zhu Yuan?

if you already have koleda built up then probably not, she's a daze machine and has far more iframes than anby

 

[SSfox]

I don't know I just put the combination that activates all the core passives, koleda is probably better but I tend to take a lot of damage when I play her since I'm more used to anbys combos

I'm building my Koleda and Xing yi with HP/Def pièces to make them more Tanky. After few try I think it's the best to do with Stun characters

if you already have koleda built up then probably not, she's a daze machine and has far more iframes than anby

Ok nice, I just play few Zhu/Koleda even if it's not as satisfying as Xinq/Zhu it work very well still

I cannot wait to try the rat, take quite a while to build character in this game , or maybe it just a feel cause I haven't prepare anything for her lol

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Full honkaixhonkai behind the scenes video, pretty funny

 

[Spyxos]

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

That shower scene at the end

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Spoiler

Must....

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[Reizo Ryuu]

anby number 15

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I guess the luck was sort of on my side with Seth, but I don't want to risk it and get the last dupe - 25 searches left and I've a feeling that I'll get an S rank agent in just 5 or 6.

 

[ap_puff]

I guess the luck was sort of on my side with Seth, but I don't want to risk it and get the last dupe - 25 searches left and I've a feeling that I'll get an S rank agent in just 5 or 6.

You could always wait and see if he rotates into the 24 hour shop. This game seems to have very few 4* characters so I'm sure seth will rerun quickly, they're already rerunning the other 4*s like anton next banner and nicole the one after that

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I've only been logging in to do dailies and I guess the weeklies, but I just finished leveling up (and building) Grace with the help of that coffee buff to disc drives drops. I've also for the first time managed in clearing all the critical nodes with an S rank (usually I was getting an A rank on that last node).

 

[SSfox]

Oh snap I always in my mind thought Soukakou is cop section with Zhu , Qing and

Spoiler

Rat

. But she is section 6 actually like Miyabi Yanagi Harusama, I guess I accidentally prepared a teammate for Miyabi lol

 

[Agent_4Seven]

SSfox Jane is not from N.E.P.S. but from some other undercover unit which is handling much more dangerous missions with N.E.P.S. as a support. I guess her faction is not even ready yet (or she won't have one at all, who knows) and you can't find her in any factions on the official site.

 

[Aenima]

SSfox Jane is not from N.E.P.S. but from some other undercover unit which is handling much more dangerous missions with N.E.P.S. as a support. I guess her faction is not even ready yet (or she won't have one at all, who knows) and you can't find her in any factions on the official site.

Jade Doe faction is the same as NEPS agents, its in her bio. She gets her bonus by pairing her with other NEPS agents or anomaly agents.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Jade Doe faction is NEPS, its in her bio. She gets her bonus by pairing her with other NEPS agents or anomaly agents.

Yet she's not directly related to them based on the official site. Go figure.
She's definitely not from a regular N.E.P.S. unit though.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

SSFox spoilered it for a reason lol.

 

[Aenima]

Yet she's not directly related to them based on the official site. Go figure.
She's definitely not from a regular N.E.P.S. unit though.

Yeah. In the lore shes not from NEPS, but she works with them. As a gameplay mechanic her faction is the same as the other NEPS agents. (Criminal Investigation Special Response Team)

Jane, a criminal behavior specialist, has had a "colorful" career as a consultant with Public Security over the years. She is an expert in disguise, infiltration, and other investigative work.

 

[Jibran#one]

This banner I've got Seth c4 and anby c6 with Jane aswell
Are these 3 a good team ?
I've got Rina c1 aswell but I feel like dropping anby who's c6 will be a big loss

 

[Aenima]

SSFox spoilered it for a reason lol.

The game already spoils it in various places, like Jane Doe Bio or the Trust faction list where you can see Jane grouped with the other NEPS agents.

 

[Aenima]

This banner I've got Seth c4 and anby c6 with Jane aswell
Are these 3 a good team ?

Yes they make a good team. Seth and Jane complement eachother, Anby is good as a fast stunner but can be replaced if you rather use other support unit or anomaly unit. Most of the times i just use Jane and Seth alone as i only have 1 stunner character i use Anby in my other team when clearing 2 team content.

 

[Jibran#one]

Yes they make a good team. Seth and Jane complement eachother, Anby is good as a fast stunner but can be replaced if you rather use other support unit or anomaly unit. Most of the times i just use Jane and Seth alone as i only have 1 stunner character i use Anby in my other team when clearing 2 team content.

I got a main fire team with soldier 11 kolida and Ben whom I'm thinking to replace with the berneece when she releases
For 2nd team is where I'm stuck at because I've got Jane and Seth since they pair and for 3rd slot in confused about anby c6 or Rina 1 I mean is Rina a huge fps boost for Jane or will anby will be fine for endgame content
I intend to make Jane my main dps for the game

 

[ap_puff]

I got a main fire team with soldier 11 kolida and Ben whom I'm thinking to replace with the berneece when she releases
For 2nd team is where I'm stuck at because I've got Jane and Seth since they pair and for 3rd slot in confused about anby c6 or Rina 1 I mean is Rina a huge fps boost for Jane or will anby will be fine for endgame content
I intend to make Jane my main dps for the game

Use Nicole, Nicole is way better than rina

 

[Aenima]

Use Nicole, Nicole is way better than rina

I think Rina is better to use with Seth and Jane cuz Rina and Seth can build up electric anomaly and then Jane builds Physical. If you replace Seth with Zhu Yuan then Nicole would be the better choice.

Anyway Anby is also a good option for faster stuns. The good thing about Jane Doe is that you can use multiple characters to build a good team around her. I mean, even solo, Jane Doe can clear most content in the game.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Nicole and Rina are about the same, edging each outer out in different circumstances, however C1 Rina is vastly better than even C6 nicole, she's only the better choice if you pair her up with zhu yuan in that case., but even then Rina is a good choice too.

 

[TheTurboFD]

wtf she groups too? that's OP, i was waffling on whether to pull but this makes her a must pull for me, i hate having to run around after stray mobs

Lord Caesar, Ape Togetha Strong

 

[ap_puff]

Nicole and Rina are about the same, edging each outer out in different circumstances, however C1 Rina is vastly better than even C6 nicole, she's only the better choice if you pair her up with zhu yuan in that case., but even then Rina is a good choice too.

Oh yeah if he has c1 rina then she is better.

 

[Icymanipulator]

So I finally got around to building up Piper and… jfc she’s insane. Was doing some dailies with Anton, Grace and Piper and they may have been the quickest I’ve moved through the elite bosses yet.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I've got Rina c1

Rina

Rina

Rina

Rina

 

[Icymanipulator]

I have Rina too and I’ve left her completely unbuilt

 

[Doom85]

Me wanting to have Himeko in Honkai Star Rail but her never showing up despite playing the game for well over a year now…..

I’m sorry I made my 300-pull Standard Selector choice Bailu! HuoHuo was my only 5 star healer at the time, and I didn’t have Fu Xuan yet, and Follow Up Attack wasn’t being used that much at the time, so, Himeko…..

 

[ap_puff]

I have Rina too and I’ve left her completely unbuilt

im probably gonna pull her c1 for my 300 standard selector choice. it just makes her so much easier to play... it's just tough since i gotta farm all these resources for caesar lol

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

And my final a rank on the banner is anby's w-engine lmao, more like L-engine; I'm gonna count this as anby number 16

 

[ap_puff]

Spoiler: yanagi drip marketing

Electric anomaly

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Spoiler: yanagi drip marketing

Electric anomaly

This is going to be a skip for me since I already have Grace, but I do look forward to Miyabi's arrival.

 

[ap_puff]

This is going to be a skip for me since I already have Grace, but I do look forward to Miyabi's arrival.

I think her design is a little boring. I have a lot of electric pieces due to farming the impact set but I'm gonna hold out and see if harumasa is gonna be an electric attack agent

 

[Spyxos]

Spoiler: yanagi drip marketing

Electric anomaly

I was hoping for electric dps.

 

[sono]

Awesome OT. looks great.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Looks like she will be the s-rank next to miyabi, probably the first one of the update.
That probably means miyabi will come with soukaku and harumasa.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Spoiler: yanagi drip marketing

Electric anomaly

As I've said before - easy skip along with the dude. It's sucks that only new characters have two energy bars, but whatever.

I already have Grace and lvld her up so I'm totaly fine. Even though I've Ellen, I just can't skip Miyabi cuz I like her design too much. I guess they'll launch her in +- early December.

I was hoping for electric dps.

She'll be electric dps with huge anomaly trigger damage, just like Jane is. Straight DPS characters are not so great imho based on what Jane can do.

 

[ap_puff]

As I've said before - easy skip along with the dude. It's sucks that only new characters have two energy bars, but whatever.

I already have Grace and lvld her up so I'm totaly fine. Even though I've Ellen, I just can't skip Miyabi cuz I like her design too much. I guess they'll launch her in +- early December.

Miyabi is pretty much guaranteed to be in 1.4, so that puts her end of December earliest.

 

[TintoConCasera]

That shower scene at the end

Based marketeers appealing to the non-modern audience (my dick)

 

[Doom85]

Based marketeers appealing to the non-modern audience (my dick)

No one needed to hear you imply how old your dick is.

 

[Aenima]

I was hoping for electric dps.

Anomaly agents can have strong DPS like Jane, really depends of they skills. Im more interested in Yanagi than Miyabi cuz i already have Ellen as my Ice DPS. But i also already have Grace so need to see Yanagi fighting style and skills to see if its worth replacing my Grace or its a skip.