Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
So, uh
the fuck does Virtue's Last Reward refer to anyway?
the fuck does Virtue's Last Reward refer to anyway?
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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward |OT| -- More Hours, More Persons, More Doors
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I know you mean. I've completed the game and I'm still a little unsure.
I think it was originally supposed to be called Good People Die, which makes a ton more sense.
Everyone dies in at least one of the endings!
"Virtue's Last Reward" is way too vague to tie to anything in particular, IMO.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I just watched the OVA and it implies that virtue is allying and last reward is betraying but that makes no fucking sense at all.
slightconfuse
Banned
the orignal title was good people die. i think it refers to the ambidex game. being virtuous would mean picking ally(as that is the good thing to do). does the reward for being good out way the reward for being evil.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I'm proud of myself for getting through the Pantry on Hard pretty easily without looking up any solutions : )
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
I thought the pantry was pretty easy. I didn't have any issues with it.
Now, the treatment center on the other hand, that was some grade A bullshit.
The original Japanese title could be read as "Good People Die" or "I Want to Become a Good Person". People just tended to translate it as the former because it sounds cooler.
Virtue's Last Reward combines two phrases: "Virtue is its own reward" and "Gone to his last reward", to show that being good could turn out well or it could get you killed.
So GAF I need some enthusiasm to start playing this game again! Basically stopped because I got busy with school work and beating Assassins creed 3.
Someone convince me to keep going! I'm only like 14 hours in with one ending and I have so much left to go. I've found nothing compelling plot wise yet accept something that will lead to an obvious ending that isn't optimal.
It's like I want to love it, but I just can't like I did with 999. Game is just overwhelming to me. (That and I always feel like I get stuck at the end of the escape puzzles) I don't want to play on easy, but I don't want to sit there for 45 minutes goofing around.
Ironically, I'm at the very end of this puzzle now. Can't figure it out and the solution I thought made sense is just nonsense.
Someone convince me to keep going! I'm only like 14 hours in with one ending and I have so much left to go. I've found nothing compelling plot wise yet accept something that will lead to an obvious ending that isn't optimal.
It's like I want to love it, but I just can't like I did with 999. Game is just overwhelming to me. (That and I always feel like I get stuck at the end of the escape puzzles) I don't want to play on easy, but I don't want to sit there for 45 minutes goofing around.
Ironically, I'm at the very end of this puzzle now. Can't figure it out and the solution I thought made sense is just nonsense.
slightconfuse
Banned
I would recommend to keep playing and look at. A FAQ for the puzzles
There's something about doing that that just errks me the wrong way though. Oddly enough I looked up a video to try to get a hint for this puzzle and figured out the first part of the password for one of the puzzles. Tried a word and it ended up being correct. I still have no idea how in the world to solve it though. Wish I managed to figure it out instead of dumb luck.
Okay seriously spoilers I had the damn right idea, but come on this is the kind of thing I'm talking about the whole time which is just preventing me from enjoying this game. I don't know why I didn't try it, but still.
Treatment Center
WHO COUNTS THE FIRST SPACE IN A BOARD GAME AS MOVING NUMBER SPACES REALLY VLR?.... REALLY? Dammit like this guy on Gamefaqs says I don't count GO in Monopoly on my dice roll ... sigh haha
Angry Rage.
slightconfuse
Banned
I did the same thing as you. Until I just decided to do it the right way to make sure. It as wire puzzle
Joe Molotov
Member
The rolling dice puzzle in the Archives can suck my dick. Really, game? So far that's the only one that I thought was just stupid, but I've only done 6 of the rooms.
PurpleMaster
Member
Ah, dice and darts, player's worst enemies!
Crash Station
Member
Quark ending get! Kind of underwhelming compared to all the other ones I've gotten so far.
chickdigger802
Banned
dice are bad, i'm also terrible at those pipe puzzles where you turn the handles at each intersection.
Crash Station
Member
Luna ending get! I want to cry 
I really think Luna and Dio are a good contrast of characters. Both had their lives set for them even before they were born, unable to be their own person. Dio just happened to accept that, or had just been brainwashed enough to not fight against it. Either way, he's a straight-up villain.
Luna on the other hand is conflicted, wanting to fight against her fate but abstaining out of both fear and a sense of purpose set by her existence as a Gaulem. For that, she's sympathetic. Not only that, but she's the ONLY character that never once decided to betray someone, possibly keeping in line with the rules of robotics. Her hiding important facts is more forgivable when taking that and her tear-jerking end into account.
Luna on the other hand is conflicted, wanting to fight against her fate but abstaining out of both fear and a sense of purpose set by her existence as a Gaulem. For that, she's sympathetic. Not only that, but she's the ONLY character that never once decided to betray someone, possibly keeping in line with the rules of robotics. Her hiding important facts is more forgivable when taking that and her tear-jerking end into account.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Yeah, that one was stupid.
My interpretation would be virtue = choosing 'ally' in the ambidex round can (and often does) result in one's last reward (=death), also alluding to the prisoner's dilemma concept.
chickdigger802
Banned
Luna ending get! I want to cry
I really think Luna and Dio are a good contrast of characters. Both had their lives set for them even before they were born, unable to be their own person. Dio just happened to accept that, or had just been brainwashed enough to not fight against it. Either way, he's a straight-up villain.
Luna on the other hand is conflicted, wanting to fight against her fate but abstaining out of both fear and a sense of purpose set by her existence as a Gaulem. For that, she's sympathetic. Not only that, but she's the ONLY character that never once decided to betray someone, possibly keeping in line with the rules of robotics. Her hiding important facts is more forgivable when taking that and her tear-jerking end into account.
all that feels
Should be made into a movie starring will smith.
chickdigger802
Banned
when a guy i know at gamestop asked me how was VLR, I told him "Fuck dice".
GhostTrick
Banned
I still prefer the "Good People Die" title.
chickdigger802
Banned
Yeah, I wanted to beat this game tonight but it looks like that isn't happening. -_-
cj_iwakura
Member
I didn't have much trouble with the dice puzzle once I had the right documents.
I don't think any puzzle has kept me stumped longer than this pantry ice puzzle.
I don't think any puzzle has kept me stumped longer than this pantry ice puzzle.
I'm so happy other people felt this way too, I felt so stupid when I eventually looked it up. It just seems fucking logical too though.
I mean why got to the trouble of saying it's a board game, at the very least, instead of start, it could have written 1 or something on the arrow pointing to that spot. I must have spent an hour or so trying to figure out what the hell was going on. This was the only spot I got stuck on like that..
Still love most of the puzzles, but the treatment centre with that puzzle and the laziness of the PEC room (i.e
Like the benches for the elevator puzzle, was expecting it to be more complex, and having to tap the window and have clover find that puzzle hint, you never do anything like that in the game, and why couldn't you find the puzzle hint when you first walked by? It's like the characters can't see below the field of vision they give you either, logically people would be looking up and down constantly as well
I just played this game for 5 hours straight, so that should tell you how much I like it.
But I have a complaint about the security room gold file puzzle:
Is there any in-game hint I missed which indicates this placement requirement?
But I have a complaint about the security room gold file puzzle:
I built the correct sentence at least 3 times, but in the wrong row, before figuring out that it had to be in the third.
I don't think so. I, and a few others, had the same problem. One person claimed they even did it right the first time, but the game still didn't give them the gold file, they had to reload. :/
Yeah, that was a poorly designed puzzle. Pretty sure there was nothing to indicate the correct way to do it.
Belisarius
Member
I wrote a thing for Siliconera a while ago explaining why we decided on that title (and on "Zero Escape"). Might answer your question?
Crash Station
Member
Jesus christ, just spent an hour on that fuckin dice puzzle in the Q room. I thought the one in the archives was cake, but this was fuckin rubik's cube level of frustrating. Got it mostly by luck.
chickdigger802
Banned
After Spending way too long on the archive room gold file.
I just used a guide.
Fuck you dice.
Finished up around 30 hours (well, technically more because of 2 crashes in PEC, so the 3DS menu has it around 32)
Only complaints about the ending are really just a matter of my personal preference
Only complaints about the ending are really just a matter of my personal preference
Never liked when games do the breaking the 4th wall thing. Didn't like it in Panzer Dragoon Saga, and I love that game as well. IT'S UP TO YOUUUUUU. Also the whole "HEY WE'LL WRAP THIS UP IN THE SEQUEL" stuff leaves a sour taste because with the state of the video game industry anything could happen. Spike/Chunsoft could get bought by somebody, Aksys could go bankrupt, the game could get made but never localized... it's a volatile industry and dammit I need to know how this story ends
I was just about to post that myself. Very cool of them to do.
Gotta make sure we help to support our friends on the East Coast in their time of need
"Thank you for your payment"
I've never checked out on something faster than this.
Gotta make sure we help to support our friends on the East Coast in their time of need
Tempted to get one but I already have one and I don't want to be greedy especially since some people missed out on the Amazon one.
Schadenfreude
Member
There's no such thing as being greedy when it comes to being charitable.
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I already tweeted what I thought about it at Ben, haha. It looks really good!