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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward |OT| -- More Hours, More Persons, More Doors
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Have fun!
Have fun!
Started just now, I wanna read as little about it as possible so I figured I'll just ask it here, sorry it was probably asked before.
I did the first room, missed the archive, and then immediately replayed it and got the gold. Now I'm pretty confused.
I'm assuming there's multiple endings, and I'm assuming they have to do with the what archives I have when? Is there any good order? How should I do this?
Is it like 999 where you play through the game once for each ending? Because it seems like you can just skip around everywhere freely.
I did the first room, missed the archive, and then immediately replayed it and got the gold. Now I'm pretty confused.
I'm assuming there's multiple endings, and I'm assuming they have to do with the what archives I have when? Is there any good order? How should I do this?
Is it like 999 where you play through the game once for each ending? Because it seems like you can just skip around everywhere freely.
Wait, there's absolutely no, like, "you should do this before that" or something, even a little bit? That's pretty surprising.
I ask because I remember reading something like doing rooms left to right (or was it right to left, something like that) a long time ago. Maybe I just misunderstood.
(In other news: clover and alice? what)
I ask because I remember reading something like doing rooms left to right (or was it right to left, something like that) a long time ago. Maybe I just misunderstood.
(In other news: clover and alice? what)
I recommend a spoiler-free path guide to maximize the time spent on the game. You don't have to do it if you don't want to.
Spieler Eins
Member
Just keep playing the paths as you like. This isn't some archaic shit like in 999 anymore, you can't do anything wrong.
This one is good: http://www.thonky.com/virtues-last-reward/endings/
Only use it if you don't want to finish the game faster. You would be able to complete it fine without it.
Hmm... I'll try just rolling by for now until I get a better idea of things, thanks guys.
One thing though, the page says to turn on hard mode and re-get all the secrets after everything, but I was planning on doing everything straight up on hard. Well whatever, I'll keep it on hard for now, no clue what any of this means.
One thing though, the page says to turn on hard mode and re-get all the secrets after everything, but I was planning on doing everything straight up on hard. Well whatever, I'll keep it on hard for now, no clue what any of this means.
The absolute final ending is unlocked if you complete the puzzle sequences in Hard mode.
Agreed, there is no need for a path guide since everything is marked, you can jump and there is no obscure choices like in 999.
Only if you want to fly past the game and spend the least time possible with the game you should use one.
Ooooh, I get how the game works now. That's pretty smart.. except for the fact that
Still dunno if I wanna use a guide or not, I trust you guys that there's no reason to but at the same time, I can't think of any reason not to (what's there to experience by trying out choices in seemingly random order?).
Also, that page has way less than 24 endings, am I missing something?
he just said that if someone doesn't vote, his vote is automatically ally. Which means that if everyone keep an eye on everyone and not go into the rooms, that's a surefire solution. At least from a first glance, it seems like he should have made the default vote "betray", right?
Also, that page has way less than 24 endings, am I missing something?
You'll understand why it shows less than 24 soon enough, just continue.
Oooooh crap. Getting the hidden pantry password feels so good (reminder:
). The puzzles are surprisingly way more satisfying than in 999.
I hope I'm not just dumb and these are supposed to be really easy, because I'm having just enough trouble
the day the man was abducted = christmas
I hope I'm not just dumb and these are supposed to be really easy, because I'm having just enough trouble
podracer35
Member
Some are simple, but others are just waaaay too crazy or out-there sometimes. But yeah, very satisfying if you press on and solve without a guide.
SolarKnight
Member
Nope, it'll always slow down on new text, even if the "new" part of it is really minor.
It would help if you put in spoiler tags what this "shitty nonsensical" ending is.
Everyone killed themselves with a scalpel for no reason
ScraftyDevil
Banned
There's a reason for it, alright. Keep playing, just about every ending is better than the one you got.
SolarKnight
Member
Well you'd get your reason if you played other routes. One single "playthrough" isn't enough at all for this game, hell I honestly wouldn't even call a playthrough of this game getting anything less than getting all of the routes' endings.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The game is really really structured around plaything through multiple times. Plus you can use that "map" screen to jump to any scene, so you can try out alternatives very easily.
Its not actually even fair to call the "endings" endings, since the game is not designed for you to stop there. Just trust us.
It's not "nonsensical", it's explained by other routes.
For what's worth, when I got that ending rather than dropping it, I got MORE interested:
don't you find it EXTREMELY odd that everyone would just commit suicide out of the blue? Sigma himself poses that very question and yet proceeds to do so himself. It really got my curiosity and theories racing.
Also, did you play 999?
I almost spit my water just now. Did not expect
, and so colloquially! Even though
, that still caught me off guard. That's just scary when a game talks to me like that.
Regarding what's up so far, there's a very obvious understanding that's shaped up in my head quickly, but I don't know if it's a feint or if it really is like that or that it's true but there's more to it. Hmm.
Also screw locks. Hitting one is the worst feeling.
Sigma to comment about things changing between routes
time leaping was already mentioned once, which instantly explained tons of things
Regarding what's up so far, there's a very obvious understanding that's shaped up in my head quickly, but I don't know if it's a feint or if it really is like that or that it's true but there's more to it. Hmm.
Also screw locks. Hitting one is the worst feeling.
Shame, a great game and does make VLR more rewarding. Also explains why that ending didn't hook you up.
SolarKnight
Member
Green password for the crew quarters... now that's some serious nonsense right there. Not cool.
edit: whoa, i just realized that
edit: whoa, i just realized that
if all 9 people are infected, there would be no way to notice the brain slowdown symptom. i know it means nothing since quark visibly slowed down in one route, but still a funny thing to think about
I love that part.
podracer35
Member
Huh.... That's weird.... >_>
I guess I found something out from those reactions
, but oh well
(but I will stay quiet from now on).
In other news my game just froze mid-puzzle (taking the 3DS' OS with it), pretty sure I lost 3-4 hours there. I thought the problem was just with saving? I was playing it normally
If it's gonna freeze up randomly on me now, well dang, that's not very nice.
(now that I think about it, they never said the slowdown was a constant thing)
Clover's ending made me super suspicious of that anyway
In other news my game just froze mid-puzzle (taking the 3DS' OS with it), pretty sure I lost 3-4 hours there. I thought the problem was just with saving? I was playing it normally
If it's gonna freeze up randomly on me now, well dang, that's not very nice.
SolarKnight
Member
Are you in the PEC room? That's what freezes the most. The saving is not the problem, the crashes can happen anyways (tip: don't back out of the puzzles in that room).
It was in the Archives, PEC room went fine and I backed the hell out of puzzles there... Guess I'll just save before every puzzle room, but that really sucks.
Also the Archives is easily the worst puzzle in the game so far, so many things wrong with it!
edit: and it froze again literally as i clicked on the green screen aaaargh
Also the Archives is easily the worst puzzle in the game so far, so many things wrong with it!
edit: and it froze again literally as i clicked on the green screen aaaargh
SolarKnight
Member
If you think the archives are bad then you will love the true ending puzzle room(s)
Fuck
That
Shit
podracer35
Member
Trust me, more of those real bombs are yet to come...
the game is constantly, continuously treating everything i "figure out" as common knowledge (shortly before dropping a real bomb). at least give me the satisfaction of a big reveal, dang it. and to think i dared to think i was onto something, boy i feel stupid
As for the "big reveal"... It's there, but I think ZE3 will be more explosive. This one is insane, but... You'll see. Hehehe
I'm done, lemme just slap a tag on the whole thing
Aside from a couple terrible ones (mostly just Archives and Security...), the puzzles were really neat. Thankfully the only freezes I got were the twice I posted about.
I was screaming hysterically on the inside for a while but I've calmed down now. All those twists. Anyway, lemme just say, um, I didn't really expect.. a non-ending. ZE3 is pretty much the second half of the whole thing.. so I can't say I'm satisfied at all with the story until we get that.
The final line with ? and Akane really made me think about Blick Winkel, haha. Dunno what's going on there, but like I said, I realize we stopped pretty much at the middle of a story so I guess whatever. I know I'm gonna need a good, long summary of VLR before I start any ZE3.
Somewhere during Akane's infodump I got completely lost with all the leaping everywhere and keeping track of consciouses :lol I got the gist of it so it's fine, but boy that got complicated fast. 999 was so much simpler in comparison!
By the way, the thing I pointed out before was true after all. They flat out say that the slowdown is continuous and unnoticeable if they're all infected, but Quark and Sigma both clearly experience it relative to the others. Plothole or did I miss something? Hmm, I'll hop into the spoiler thread later..
The final line with ? and Akane really made me think about Blick Winkel, haha. Dunno what's going on there, but like I said, I realize we stopped pretty much at the middle of a story so I guess whatever. I know I'm gonna need a good, long summary of VLR before I start any ZE3.
Somewhere during Akane's infodump I got completely lost with all the leaping everywhere and keeping track of consciouses :lol I got the gist of it so it's fine, but boy that got complicated fast. 999 was so much simpler in comparison!
By the way, the thing I pointed out before was true after all. They flat out say that the slowdown is continuous and unnoticeable if they're all infected, but Quark and Sigma both clearly experience it relative to the others. Plothole or did I miss something? Hmm, I'll hop into the spoiler thread later..
Aside from a couple terrible ones (mostly just Archives and Security...), the puzzles were really neat. Thankfully the only freezes I got were the twice I posted about.
Conglaturation !!! You have completed a great game.
I'm a little iffy on the details but it might pertain to several factors. First of all, Quark is a kid so he might be experiencing the effects more. We know Radical 6 effects ramp up over time so this might also depend on the order they were injected with it. At last, I think effects of Radical 6 increased under stress/adrenaline rushes or whatever, I don't remember exactly how it was.
To be fair, the virus is a plot device, so I wouldn't focus too much on it.
In the meantime you can imagine how hilarious it must have been for Luna who was constantly aware of how ridiculous everyone sounds talking with such slowdown and walking/jumping around in a slow motion.
To be fair, the virus is a plot device, so I wouldn't focus too much on it.
In the meantime you can imagine how hilarious it must have been for Luna who was constantly aware of how ridiculous everyone sounds talking with such slowdown and walking/jumping around in a slow motion.
R_thanatos
Member
For upandaway
As for what this will mean in ZE3 , we have no idea
? is a blick winkel entity ( confirmed on the writter twitter )
No! My poor sweet innocent Luna can't be a subpar 30fps robot
Nah dude it's self-induced.
Just gotta engage that FPS limiter. You can disable it in options!
grim-tales
Member
Blick Winkel is supposed to be YOU/ME (the player) right?
Can't wait to see what ZE3 has in store...