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[Dreams-Visions]

Really? They were gushing on their preview.

Most previews gush. It's how they keep you clicking.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

And I blame every other person that gave that broken piece of crap more than a 4.

Most previews gush. It's how they keep you clicking.

I don't really watch previews on IGN, but usually they tend to be more neutral while showcasing some of the positive aspects of the game. However, their preview was literally "OMG WIIU KILLER APP, THE DARK SOULS OF NINTENDO BASED GOD AM CRY"

 

[Rapstah]

69 is a way worse score than 7/10. One is also yellow and one is green.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

What if the game is "so so" though???

I've always said the review system should go like this:

Buy
Wait for price drop
Rent
Skip

 

[Got the Shakes]

You hit the nail on the head with this one.

People hate when reviews don't live up to their lofty expectations.

And what's funny, is that people should be upset with the developer if a game isn't good (and thus doesn't review well) instead of being mad at reviewers and their respective websites.

 

[shadyspace]

I don't really watch previews on IGN, but usually they tend to be more neutral while showcasing some of the positive aspects of the game. However, their preview was literally "OMG WIIU KILLER APP, THE DARK SOULS OF NINTENDO BASED GOD AM CRY"

GamesRadar had quite a positive preview video as well.

 

[Absinthe]

Activist reviewers huh

This is from IGN, but I think it solidifies my point that the right reviewer needs to be reviewing games in his wheelhouse. From his review history, ZombiU was not one of those games.

How do you decide who gets to review what games?

We strive to pair up games with the person who knows the brand, the genre, and the style of game, so as to offer the most expert opinions. We also aim to find writers who care. Everyone has certain types of games that interest them. Some folks love shooters and others like a good role-playing game. There are those who want to get lost exploring an open world for a hundred hours and others who want a shorter, more directed experience. Editors at IGN speak up about the games they want to play so we make sure people are playing games that interest them, and more specifically, games that editors know and understand. Getting the right person assigned to the job is always of the utmost importance to us, and we try to make sure our entire staff is well-rounded, but also that the title ends up in the hands of an editor who can speak to the genre and platform in an educated way that serves our audience.

 

[friskykillface]

I wish red box would carry Wii u games too, or rental stores didn't go RIP, it'd be easier


Scibblenauts is calling my name but I have to stay with dem zombies

 

[EmCeeGramr]

mthanded i know it wasn't your intent but you're getting dangerously close to inadvertently defending silent hill hd collection

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Heading out the door to rehab but I just wanted to comment on this.

First of all, he has reviewed other survival horror games. You can see his 7.0 scores of Silent Hill titles in that list. Second of all, he gave DEAR ESTHER an 8.0 - you can't get a slower paced game than that, nor one as experimental.

Third of all, trying to dismiss someone's clearly earnest opinion of a game you and others have not played is really just something that one doesn't even need to criticize - it speaks on its own for the absurdity it is. If you want to try to pick and choose someone's "legitimate opinions" as long as they are positive enough to meet your metric of a game you never played, I think you'll find the slope cannot be more slippery.

Anyway, thread is hilarious so far since the review. Good way to send me off. See you on Tuesday guys!

Its the cycle of Denial. wait for hype to die down.

 

[ozfunghi]

If this game gets a 7 from EDGE, you know it's far from a bad game. That means it's an 85%+ game by anyone else's standards, excluding some random idiot of course.

 

[Kai Dracon]

or people can just stop freaking out about numbers?

It's the public's fault to a degree, sure.

Though, I do wonder how reviewers are affected psychologically by knowing that their opinion must be distilled to a number at the end. Rather than their critique depending solely on the text of their review.

It can cause conflict with what to take away from a review. See: numbers that just don't "sound right", in either direction, compared to the review text. It lowers the usefulness of the text; a needless distraction.

 

[MThanded]

Heading out the door to rehab but I just wanted to comment on this.

First of all, he has reviewed other survival horror games. You can see his 7.0 scores of Silent Hill titles in that list. Second of all, he gave DEAR ESTHER an 8.0 - you can't get a slower paced game than that, nor one as experimental.

Third of all, trying to dismiss someone's clearly earnest opinion of a game you and others have not played is really just something that one doesn't even need to criticize - it speaks on its own for the absurdity it is. If you want to try to pick and choose someone's "legitimate opinions" as long as they are positive enough to meet your metric of a game you never played, I think you'll find the slope cannot be more slippery.

Anyway, thread is hilarious so far since the review. Good way to send me off. See you on Tuesday guys!

Logic and reason. How does it work.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I've always said the review system should go like this:

Buy
Wait for price drop
Rent
Skip

Not bad.

Mine would be:

Your sister's best friend
Your girlfriend
Your sister
Your dad

(don't read into what that means)

 

[moonbox]

I saw someone swing the controller I don't know.

Maybe they were shooing a fly

Maybe they were having an air wank.

 

[Baconsammy]

I don't even know what it means, but it's annoying me. Wiiu wiiu wiiu wiiu? Is that like the sound of a siren?

It came from this:

 

[metalslimer]

Hmm, disappointing the game isn't apparently as good as hoped.

 

[TheGreatDivide]

This is from IGN, but I think it solidifies my point that the right reviewer needs to be reviewing games in his wheelhouse. From his review history, ZombiU was not one of those games.

Jesus Christ it's a fucking FPS. It's not like there's some mechanics he needs to be educated in.

 

[Sid]

I wish red box would carry Wii u games too, or rental stores didn't go RIP, it'd be easier


Scibblenauts is calling my name but I have to stay with dem zombies

Doesn't gamefly carry wiiu games?not in your area?

 

[MThanded]

mthanded i know it wasn't your intent but you're getting dangerously close to inadvertently defending silent hill hd collection

Just bear with me here. I am working my magic.

 

[electroshockwave]

I didn't see anything objectionable about the GS video review. Here's a short summary of my impressions after playing it at Eurogamer Expo, I wasn't impressed:

I got to go into the general Wii-U section after playing Zombi U so it's not like you would have to queue twice. It's actually pretty disappointing (not because I was hyped for it but because I spent the better part of 2 hours queuing for it).

The controls feel very sluggish like the acceleration is messed up when turning. And a lot of the gamepad uses feel tacked on like using the motion controls to aim the sniper or crossbow instead of just using the analog stick. And using the touch screen to switch weapons or access your backpack and loot things just feels inconvenient. When you die your character is permanently dead and you have to make your way back to your zombified self with a new character to kill them and get your loot. It's novel and similar to getting back to a bloodstain in Demon's Souls but only one zombie that you've killed respawns (and I don't know why that particular one does when no others do) so it's just travel time instead of any sort of interesting challenge.

 

[Moze]

is there a link to the edge review?

 

[MThanded]

And I blame every other person that gave that broken piece of crap more than a 4.

What's the most reputable game review site? The one that agree with your expectations? I'm asking because you seem to know a lot more about game reviews than game reviewers themselves.

 

[cyberheater]

ONM: 92%
EDGE: 7/10
Gamespot: 4.5/10

I trust the EDGE score much more then other 2.

So not a killer game for WiiU but a good solid one. I'm fine with that.

EDIT: I do think this is one of these games that you only get out of it what you put into it. Play it in the dark with a beefy A/V amp going to get the maximum effect.

 

[Absinthe]

Heading out the door to rehab but I just wanted to comment on this.

First of all, he has reviewed other survival horror games. You can see his 7.0 scores of Silent Hill titles in that list. Second of all, he gave DEAR ESTHER an 8.0 - you can't get a slower paced game than that, nor one as experimental.

Third of all, trying to dismiss someone's clearly earnest opinion of a game you and others have not played is really just something that one doesn't even need to criticize - it speaks on its own for the absurdity it is. If you want to try to pick and choose someone's "legitimate opinions" as long as they are positive enough to meet your metric of a game you never played, I think you'll find the slope cannot be more slippery.

Anyway, thread is hilarious so far since the review. Good way to send me off. See you on Tuesday guys!

The majority of his reviews are for fighting games. Let's just be honest and admit that he was the wrong guy assigned for the job, regardless of what score he gave the game, 4.5 or 9.5, I don't care.

 

[MYE]

I'm curious about Eurogamer's review

 

[Kai Dracon]

I've always said the review system should go like this:

Buy
Wait for price drop
Rent
Skip

You know... that system could do a lot of PR damage to the industry (in a good way) given the insane focus on front loaded sales. Labeling a game "wait for price drop" rather than just saying its bad, might twist a lot of PR reps into fucking pretzels.

Make them work those synapses for a change, form some new connections.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I'm curious about Eurogamer's review

I'm not a site whore anymore but Eurogamer seems one of the best, if not best, from what I have seen and what people have said.

 

[MThanded]

The majority of his reviews are for fighting games. Let's just be honest and admit that he was the wrong guy assigned for the job, regardless of what score he gave the game, 4.5 or 9.5, I don't care.

Who is actually being honest here? You aren't. You tried to throw the guy under the bus and got called out. You actually attempted to portray him in a more negative light by leaving out reviews that fit into the same genre...

 

[bender]

After watching some videos the melee combat that bothers me. Typically the first blow the player lands to the zombie head removes a large chunk of the skull exposing the brain. From there, it generally takes two-to-three more hits to drop the zombie. Even if my expectation of two hits to the head killing any zombie is counter to how the game is designed, shouldn't the next hit to the head after exposing the brain be the final? At the very least the feedback provided to the player seems off. I know the length of time you play as a survivor makes you more apt at melee combat but even as a new character, having to hit a zombie that many times in the head seems off-putting.

 

[Ridley327]

Just bear with me here. I am working my magic.

The kind of magic you're dealing with has grave repercussions without the proper precautions. You know Full Metal Alchemist? It's kind of like that, but instead of cool metal armor, you get turned into Frank from Hellraiser.

 

[TheChits]

I've been waiting so long to play this game. Monday can't get here quick enough

 

[plagiarize]

Jesus Christ it's a fucking FPS. It's not like there's some mechanics he needs to be educated in.

agreed. I mean, I love a lot of survival horror games with mediocre review scores, but that doesn't mean they didn't deserve them. just because i'm willing to put up with janky controls and dubious mechanics if a game scares me, doesn't mean people that feel otherwise are wrong and shouldn't be reviewing horror games.

there will be reviews from people like me, but we aren't talking about a niche game. we're talking about a game bundled with the system in Maxwell's home country.

good luck at rehab Ami.

 

[MadeInBeats]

or people can just stop freaking out about numbers?

What? NeoGAF makes the AnorexicWeightLoss.com forums look normal.

At the end of the day though, who, over the age of 16, gives GameSpot reviews any time?

 

[cw_sasuke]

So they are reviewing the game without its online features ?

 

[MThanded]

So they are reviewing the game without its online features ?

They have to review all the games like this.

 

[Absinthe]

Logic and reason. How does it work.

Logic and reason = giving the slow paced survival zombie game to a guy who MAINLY reviews fighting games...

So logical.

 

[OryoN]

I wouldn't get too worked up over a reviewer's low score. Whether the game is good or not, it was pretty clear from the begining that this is the type of game that would fall into that love it/hate it threshold, largely due to it's pacing. At the same time, a very high score doesn't necessarily mean everyone will enjoy this game, for that very same reason.

 

[Ridley327]

So they are reviewing the game without its online features ?

To be honest, I'm not sure how much the hint system or being able to steal your dead friend's stuff will actually impact the score in any direction. They're cool things, but hardly essential, you know?

 

[MThanded]

Logic and reason = giving the slow paced survival zombie game to a guy who MAINLY reviews fighting games...

So logical.

You are just attempting to discredit him because you don't like what he said. What percentage of survival horror games does he need to review to make his review justified?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

So they are reviewing the game without its online features ?

I HIGHLY doubt(at least the Gamespot dude) would alter his score because you could see your friend's spraypainted messages on the wall and there are some form of simple leaderboards.

 

[FLEABttn]

Heading out the door to rehab...See you on Tuesday guys!

Good luck!

 

[KrawlMan]

Jesus Christ it's a fucking FPS. It's not like there's some mechanics he needs to be educated in.

FPS alone does not adequately describe the genre of the game. I can handle playing an FPS, but I would be a terrible person to review this game.

If what people are saying is true, and it has the same constant uneasiness as Dark/Demon's Souls, I doubt I would enjoy it very much. There were moments of Demon's Souls I might have described as enjoyable, but as a whole it most certainly was not.

Edit: I'm coming into this discussion late. I'm not saying that the Gamespot review was unwarranted, as I haven't played the game myself. I'm just saying that there are definitely people that are not well suited to review the game. I doubt I could give an unbiased opinion after playing it as I absolutely detest that persistent feeling of dread.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

After watching some videos the melee combat that bothers me. Typically the first blow the player lands to the zombie head removes a large chunk of the skull exposing the brain. From there, it generally takes two-to-three more hits to drop the zombie. Even if my expectation of two hits to the head killing any zombie is counter to how the game is designed, shouldn't the next hit to the head after exposing the brain be the final? At the very least the feedback provided to the player seems off. I know the length of time you play as a survivor makes you more apt at melee combat but even as a new character, having to hit a zombie that many times in the head seems off-putting.

See, in this case off-putting to you is more realistic/immersive for me.

Personal preference is really go to swing people on this game.

 

[MYE]

Heading out the door to rehab but I just wanted to comment on this.

First of all, he has reviewed other survival horror games. You can see his 7.0 scores of Silent Hill titles in that list. Second of all, he gave DEAR ESTHER an 8.0 - you can't get a slower paced game than that, nor one as experimental.

Third of all, trying to dismiss someone's clearly earnest opinion of a game you and others have not played is really just something that one doesn't even need to criticize - it speaks on its own for the absurdity it is. If you want to try to pick and choose someone's "legitimate opinions" as long as they are positive enough to meet your metric of a game you never played, I think you'll find the slope cannot be more slippery.

Anyway, thread is hilarious so far since the review. Good way to send me off. See you on Tuesday guys!

Good luck dude

 

[MThanded]

See, off-putting to you is more realistic/immersive for me.

Personal preference is really go to swing people on this game I believe.

That's a lot of games. That's why this uproar is foolish.

1. People claiming they know the review is inaccurate from preview stuff.
2. People trying to compare numbers from reviews across different reviewers and sites.
3. People going as far as trying to discredit the guy because he has reviewed some fighting games. Conveniently leaving out his reviews for similar games to ZombiU.

 

[iammeiam]

The majority of his reviews are for fighting games. Let's just be honest and admit that he was the wrong guy assigned for the job, regardless of what score he gave the game, 4.5 or 9.5, I don't care.

Let's be honest and admit the only reason his review history is being brought up is because he didn't give the game an 8+. Almost every OT has some part of it raging if prerelease reviews don't meet their expectations, even though all they have to go on is faith the game will turn out awesome.

It's a launch title. It may be a 4.5 game, and we'll all know soon. It's silly to pretend this guy's review history is being called out for any reason other than giving the game a score lower than people like.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

That's a lot of games. That's why this uproar is foolish.

Agreed.

 

[Christberg]

It came from this:

Holy crap, that guy's a walking stereotype. Is it bad that I legit feel sorry for him?

 

[Twilight Princess]

I didn't see anything objectionable about the GS video review. Here's a short summary of my impressions after playing it at Eurogamer Expo, I wasn't impressed:

The gamespot guy didn't mention the controls being sluggish tho. But maybe that's why he died so much and had to rely on batting?
If the controls are bad, it's game breaking, especially in a harder game like this.

Spoiler alert: Francis is an act.

Maybe he feels sorry for him because of Francis' physical condition, is that an act too? He should really take better care of himself.