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ZombiU |OT| Zombi Emergency! WiiU WiiU WiiU WiiU

Eggman, grace us with your review of the game based off of pre-release material. I just think its pretty hard to judge a reviews accuracy when you have not played the game.

To be fair, I think it's pretty hard to judge the game based on reviews accurately when we have a 92, a 7, and a 4.5 currently.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
what if zombi 2 suddenly takes place in japan and the main character is Scott-san and instead of a cricket bat you draw your hanzou steel and BOOM it's the real Red Steel 2

oh my god yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
 
The ZombiU banner was sort of interesting, but why does it have a British guard zombie guy? The guy in the same shined a flashlight on some doors and then opened them. There was some zombies and you could shake the gamepad. The disc is shiny and reflective on the back.

An excellent title. 9/10
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
To be fair, I think it's pretty hard to judge the game based on reviews accurately when we have a 92, a 7, and a 4.5 currently.
I agree it's also hard to judge a review accurately until you yourself have played a game or more than 3 reviews have dropped.
 

iammeiam

Member
So this is probably going to be a mediocre game? Not exactly shocking news for a launch title; it doesnt sound broken, though, and multi is supposed to be fun, so I'll probably still pick it up. Here's hoping for flawed but still with some level of fun.
 

Ydahs

Member
The ZombiU banner was sort of interesting, but why does it have a British guard zombie guy? The guy in the same shined a flashlight on some doors and then opened them. There was some zombies and you could shake the gamepad. The disc is shiny and reflective on the back.

An excellent title. 9/10
This review did not make mention of the rounded edges on the disk. INVALIDATED.
 
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Deleted member 81567

Unconfirmed Member
I agree it's also hard to judge a review accurately until you yourself have played a game or more than 3 reviews have dropped.
Why does it have to be arbitrary "3?" The fact there's already a review almost 30 (or 3 using a 10 scale) points more should lead to some questioning.

After you have played?

Of course.
 

Oidisco

Member
I'm still excited for the game. One low review won't diminish my excitement, though I'm a little more prepared to be disappointed just in case.
 
oh my god yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

reminder that the original idea for Red Steel 2 (before it became a samurai cowboy fighting cyborg ninjas in the old west over a magic meteor sword) was some kind of crazy psychic ghost powers for the dude or hallucinations or something and there was concept art for space pagodas

i mean, red steel 3 might as well be a zombie game
 
I'm still excited for the game. One low review won't diminish my excitement, though I'm a little more prepared to be disappointed just in case.

This is the right attitude, it can only go up from here.

Well, I doubt there will be any scores the same or lower, maybe one or two from someone.
 
I hope this game is actually good and a lot better than what Gamespot thinks.

But it's a Ubisoft game so being bad isn't out of the question.

And it's a launch game. You'd think people would have learned by now that most launch games are not very good and will be in bargain bins a year from now. Same thing will happen with Xbox720 and PS4. You will get 1, maybe 2 actual good launch games and the rest will be higher res ports or rush jobs.
 
Did you know that you can kick enemies when they're down in Silent Hill 2 to kill them instantly? It makes the combat way faster, and combat sucked before I figured that out.

of course. it still doesn't make sense to have a game where something takes multiple melee hits to kill where that something can't recover from one hit before the next hit lands.
 
You don't. The bat is mainly for when you run out of ammo and for a short period after you die when you need to retrieve your backpack. Other than that, it's okay for one-on-one but is entirely useless for any other situation. Seemingly, the pistol alone is a one-shot-kill to the head. Why would anyone prefer the bat? It's just dumb.

Theoretically, you could use the bat for most of the game if all you ever did was lure one zombie at a time, but in some situations you would die a lot before all of the zombies were dead. And even then, every time you die, the character becomes a zombie so for each death another zombie appears, effectively.

There are quite a few weapons in-game, but you need to find them through looting. A video I watched earlier had the player find a crossbow at what appears to be very early in the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZQ_ofA3-w&t=1m18s

Personally, i'm looking forward to trying the game out myself when it hits UK shelves. It looks good.
This is what's bugging me. I've seen mutiple vids showing players using different types of weapons(flares, guns, crossbows, explosives, etc), but the gamespot review shows mostly just clubbing zombies to death one by one and they seem to suggest its the only good way to play the game, hence the low score.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Why does it have to be arbitrary "3?" The fact there's already a review almost 30 (or 3 using a 10 scale) points more should lead to some questioning.



Of course.

Comparing numbers from different reviewers and different sites means nothing. However, if you want to do it then do it.

Lets put these on the same scale and take the mean
92+70+45/3 = 69

92-69 = 23
69-45 = 24

So either way its a ~24 point swing. If you want to call the 45 an outlier you better call the 92 one too. See where your logic falls apart. Stop.
 
what if zombi 2 suddenly takes place in japan and the main character is Scott-san and instead of a cricket bat you draw your hanzou steel and BOOM it's the real Red Steel 2
WXwNz.gif
 

Absinthe

Member
Wow, panic over a Maxwell McGee review?

Let's look at the past games he has reviewed,
http://www.gamespot.com/users/Maxwell/contributions

He is the "fighting games guy".... why the heck did he get the job of reviewing a slow paced survival game when he is mostly a connoisseur of the complete opposite style of game play; fast, fast and fast? He also doesn't look like he gets assigned the "big name games" either...which is something to consider when looking at the source of this, "I tried to finish the game as fast as I could because I hate slow paced games", review.

In my view, it seems that the powers that be at GS, when handing down review assignments, looked at the pending ZombiU review in the wake of other "bigger" games out now, and said "ehh, more Wii U 'current gen' crap to review...give it to Maxwell."

I am only saying this to calm the down the panic that ZombiU is "crap". I think there is more to the fact that the review was done in a rush by someone who does not prefer to play slow paced action games than there is to the game actually being a bad game.

Other reviews, by reviewers who actually LIKE this kind of game, will balance this out.
 

iammeiam

Member
So does this game have boss zombies or something? gamespot review mentions squirreling away the good weapons so you don't lose them if you die. This implies needing to save them for later, and being stuck with just the cricket bat for all the basic running around killing which I could see getting dull.
 
This is what's bugging me. I've seen mutiple vids showing players using different types of weapons(flares, guns, crossbows, explosives, etc), but the gamespot review shows mostly just clubbing zombies to death one by one and they seem to suggest its the only good way to play the game, hence the low score.

Like I said earlier and some took exception to, he might not have managed his ammo properly or found all the spots the "real" weapons were located at.

I've seen the same things, videos which showed at least 5 unique weapons.

Now I am sure there isn't a gun or ammo every 10 steps but the cricket bat for most of the game???

Not buying it.
 
Wow, panic over a Maxwell McGee review?

Let's look at the past games he has reviewed,
http://www.gamespot.com/users/Maxwell/contributions

He is the "fighting games guy".... why the heck did he get the job of reviewing a slow paced survival game when he is mostly a connoisseur of the complete opposite style of game play; fast, fast and fast? He also doesn't look like he gets assigned the "big name games" either...which is something to consider when looking at the source of this, "I tried to finish the game as fast as I could because I hate slow paced games", review.

In my view, it seems that the powers that be at GS, when handing down review assignments, looked at the pending ZombiU review in the wake of other "bigger" games out now, and said "ehh, more Wii U 'current gen' crap to review...give it to Maxwell."

I am only saying this to calm the down the panic that ZombiU is "crap". I think there is more to the fact that the review was done in a rush by someone who does not prefer to play slow paced action games than there is to the game actually being a bad game.

Other reviews, by reviewers who actually LIKE this kind of game, will balance this out.
Activist reviewers huh
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I don't think anyone in this thread is claiming the game is crap. I think in general people need to calm down . Reviews are subjective and trying to compare a number across a set of reviews by different reviewers is not going to work.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I will say, all this crap is a good argument for why review scores are bad.

Regardless of how the game actually is, if all we had to go by was watching the guy play the game in the video the way he did, along with his commentary, I'm willing to bet there wouldn't be nearly so much freaking out.

Let me put it this way.

When chatting with someone in real life about movies, and one guy says "dude I hated that movie it SUCKED everything about it was the WORST MOVIE EVER"... I think most people generally don't get angered and proceed to argue about it for five hours. If you thought the film was fine personally, you just roll your eyes and move on. Or make like a short quip about your friend's taste.

But if the same guy said that, attached a "3 out of 10" number to it, and his opinion was printed in a newspaper somewhere, there's much more psychological manipulation at play. And a greater chance you're going to freak out, and even start to worry that you don't really like the movie, you're now insecure, it's really horrible after all, etc.

I think even a thumbs up or thumbs down system would not cause so much drama like these damn numbers with their fractions do.
 

Bumhead

Banned
An Edge 7 is a decent score. I suspect some of the bed wetting in this thread will end up looking premature.

I've said this before but I expect ZombiU to be a typically flawed but generally enjoyable launch game. One that gets generally middling reviews and doesn't exactly pull up any tress, but which will become something of a cult classic down the line and people will still talk about and play in 5+ years time when we are sat here talking about the Wii U's life. Reviews so far tell me that's how this could be playing out. Will be really interesting to see what Gaffers think about it.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I will say, all this crap is a good argument for why review scores are bad.

Regardless of how the game actually is, if all we had to go by was watching the guy play the game in the video the way he did, along with his commentary, I'm willing to bet there wouldn't be nearly so much freaking out.

Let me put it this way.

When chatting with someone in real life about movies, and one guy says "dude I hated that movie it SUCKED everything about it was the WORST MOVIE EVER"... I think most people generally don't get angered and proceed to argue about it for five hours. If you thought the film was fine personally, you just roll your eyes and move on. Or make like a short quip about your friend's taste.

But if the same guy said that, attached a "3 out of 10" number to it, and his opinion was printed in a newspaper somewhere, there's much more psychological manipulation at play. And a greater chance you're going to freak out, and even start to worry that you don't really like the movie, you're now insecure, it's really horrible after all, etc.

I think even a thumbs up or thumbs down system would not cause so much drama like these damn numbers with their fractions do.
I agree. This is one of the big reasons I really love quick looks from giant bomb. It's good to watch someone play a game for an extended period of time.
 
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Deleted member 81567

Unconfirmed Member
Wow, panic over a Maxwell McGee review?

Let's look at the past games he has reviewed,
http://www.gamespot.com/users/Maxwell/contributions

He is the "fighting games guy".... why the heck did he get the job of reviewing a slow paced survival game when he is mostly a connoisseur of the complete opposite style of game play; fast, fast and fast? He also doesn't look like he gets assigned the "big name games" either...which is something to consider when looking at the source of this, "I tried to finish the game as fast as I could because I hate slow paced games", review.

In my view, it seems that the powers that be at GS, when handing down review assignments, looked at the pending ZombiU review in the wake of other "bigger" games out now, and said "ehh, more Wii U 'current gen' crap to review...give it to Maxwell."

I am only saying this to calm the down the panic that ZombiU is "crap". I think there is more to the fact that the review was done in a rush by someone who does not prefer to play slow paced action games than there is to the game actually being a bad game.

Other reviews, by reviewers who actually LIKE this kind of game, will balance this out.

He gave the Silent Hill HD Collection a 7/10
laughing-smiley-016.gif
 
I will say, all this crap is a good argument for why review scores are bad.

Regardless of how the game actually is, if all we had to go by was watching the guy play the game in the video the way he did, along with his commentary, I'm willing to bet there wouldn't be nearly so much freaking out.

Let me put it this way.

When chatting with someone in real life about movies, and one guy says "dude I hated that movie it SUCKED everything about it was the WORST MOVIE EVER"... I think most people generally don't get angered and proceed to argue about it for five hours. If you thought the film was fine personally, you just roll your eyes and move on. Or make like a short quip about your friend's taste.

But if the same guy said that, attached a "3 out of 10" number to it, and his opinion was printed in a newspaper somewhere, there's much more psychological manipulation at play. And a greater chance you're going to freak out, and even start to worry that you don't really like the movie, you're now insecure, it's really horrible after all, etc.

I think even a thumbs up or thumbs down system would not cause so much drama like these damn numbers with their fractions do.

or people can just stop freaking out about numbers?
 

G-Fex

Member
I don't think anyone in this thread is claiming the game is crap. I think in general people need to calm down . Reviews are subjective and trying to compare a number across a set of reviews by different reviewers is not going to work.

LOL MT

this is gaming side, nobody stays calm. Especially at review scores.

Imagine what the other review scores that come out for the ports.
 

Effect

Member
This is what's bugging me. I've seen mutiple vids showing players using different types of weapons(flares, guns, crossbows, explosives, etc), but the gamespot review shows mostly just clubbing zombies to death one by one and they seem to suggest its the only good way to play the game, hence the low score.

If he had nothing I can't help but assume he's died over and over again and has stored nothing. Or never progressed very far into the game.
 

Linkhero1

Member
Well, I know it's just one review, but any more bad reviews and I'm going to hold off until it's a bargain bin title. I think this title would have really benefited a lot more with online multiplayer modes.
 
Lol oh man... I wonder how many negative stars Tom Chick is gonna give this game :l

Anyway, the game sounded pretty polarizing just going by hands on GAFfer impressions. Probably going to boil down to a subjective user experience as EC mentioned. I like the concept, and I like the look, so I'd like to give it a shot before writing it off
 

Amir0x

Banned
Wow, panic over a Maxwell McGee review?

Let's look at the past games he has reviewed,
http://www.gamespot.com/users/Maxwell/contributions

He is the "fighting games guy".... why the heck did he get the job of reviewing a slow paced survival game when he is mostly a connoisseur of the complete opposite style of game play; fast, fast and fast? He also doesn't look like he gets assigned the "big name games" either...which is something to consider when looking at the source of this, "I tried to finish the game as fast as I could because I hate slow paced games", review.

In my view, it seems that the powers that be at GS, when handing down review assignments, looked at the pending ZombiU review in the wake of other "bigger" games out now, and said "ehh, more Wii U 'current gen' crap to review...give it to Maxwell."

I am only saying this to calm the down the panic that ZombiU is "crap". I think there is more to the fact that the review was done in a rush by someone who does not prefer to play slow paced action games than there is to the game actually being a bad game.

Other reviews, by reviewers who actually LIKE this kind of game, will balance this out.

Heading out the door to rehab but I just wanted to comment on this.

First of all, he has reviewed other survival horror games. You can see his 7.0 scores of Silent Hill titles in that list. Second of all, he gave DEAR ESTHER an 8.0 - you can't get a slower paced game than that, nor one as experimental.

Third of all, trying to dismiss someone's clearly earnest opinion of a game you and others have not played is really just something that one doesn't even need to criticize - it speaks on its own for the absurdity it is. If you want to try to pick and choose someone's "legitimate opinions" as long as they are positive enough to meet your metric of a game you never played, I think you'll find the slope cannot be more slippery.

Anyway, thread is hilarious so far since the review. Good way to send me off. See you on Tuesday guys!
 
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