Thinking on it, the Yu-Gi-Oh anime is on some straight up bullshit.

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Kaiba was hilarious.


And then there was this:

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Kaiba´s little brother?
 
Duelingnetwork.com is all I have to say. Get you reintroduced to the game really quick. I dueled a ton my freshman year of college and while I was a kid. Ran a Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon deck. I was pretty unbeatable until the card was limited to one recently. Didn't duel for a year+ until this past weekend.

Good old times. Might check out 5Ds just for the hell of it one day. I also never knew that was a smiley face.

Somebody on the gaming side suggested YGOPro, I found the DevPro fork and its pretty neat. Only software I've found that actually has the card rules/effects built in. Haven't played with it much though.
 
I miss the original series (Duel Monsters) where the rules weren't so strict, and cards in the show worked a little bit differently from their real life counterparts. It made it interesting to see the official version of a card compared to the show, and allowed for more interesting duels. I also miss the characters. Everyone in modern Yu-Gi-Oh is so stupid, but Jonouchi-kun/Joey Wheeler was the best. His slim defeat against Marik was more hype than any Synchro/XYZ shit new characters pull, and his life-or-death possession duel against Yugi was full of feels. Pretty much the best arc of any card game character. Yugi's single-turn turnaround victory against Noah with a disadvantage of Kaiba's previous hand and 100 vs 10,000 Life Points was also fuc*ing ridiculous, I love it. Give me some fun twists on rules and crazy setups, not just show me some simple combos to use in the game.

I feel like the card game used to be a vehicle for the story, while now the story is just a vehicle for the card game.

And the whole Heart of the Cards thing is alright with me. In the universe of Yu-Gi-Oh, things work on a balance of dueling spirit and chance. Deciding not to quit before you draw your key card that was already there to begin with is just as important as victory itself, because determination. Also, if you believe in the Heart of the Cards enough, the card you need might actually teleport onto the top of your deck (80% certain that is canon).
 
Fuck I never heard of the sequel. Colour me intrigued.



Thanks for the post man, Shaman King was awesome and anyone who watched it and liked it is an instant bro/sis on the spot. Show was good fun. Needs more love.

Totally agree! Finished re-reading the manga and on to the sequel!
 
Huh. I quit the game about the time the first ban list came out. Seems an odd choice for banning, since it wasn't ever really that powerful.

It totally broke the game for an entire format period. The dominant deck was Goat Control, which used 3x Scapegoats and synergistic cards like Enemy Controller and Metamorphosis to gain advantage. And with 3x Magician of Faith, you could recycle these cards over and over. Metamorphosis would turn a goat, Magician of Faith, or Magical Scientist (also totally OP) into a Thousand Eyes Restrict, thus totally locking down the game because no other monster could attack or change position. Restrict could suck up a monster every turn and you could ram him into something else for free kills and damage. Basically just sit there until you want to finish them with a Chaos Monster or other power play. Fun stuff, just watch out for Asura Priest. Of course, Restrict, Scientist, and Metamorphosis were eventually banned and Scapegoat and Magician of Faith were restricted to one per deck.

...I liked Yugioh lol.
 
Oh man, just read up a basic description of that Pendulum Summon thing, and it looks confusing. It's weird how they went from fusions being unusable to trying to buff fusions in GX to making a usable form of fusion via synchro and then what appeared to be a broken form of fusion in XYZ stuff, and now there's whatever this is. Man, I've been out of this game for FOREVER. They really need to hurry up and make a 3DS game for me to buy.

Also, as to people mentioning people getting hurt by duel stuff... didn't Kaiba build that into his machines or something? I recall SOMETHING like that. I dunno.

But yeah, it's always nice when something in Yugioh happens that doesn't require a card so specific that you have to wonder why someone would ever bother putting it in their deck. Then again, I'm only familiar with 5DS and Zexal through the manga (got copies for review) and I barely touched GX, so I'm super out of the loop. IIRC in 5DS there were people just straight up cheating massively with psychic powers? Also, in Zexal I liked that they at least justified the Numbers cards as coming into existence as a specific counter as a spur of the moment thing when they're needed. As opposed to the cards that just pop up out of nowhere and do that anyway in the other series.

And did they ever actually make a ritual card that anybody would ever bother using? IIRC those things were always awful by default just because of how terribly unwieldy they were to use.

In the manga, pre-Battle City duels were played in a glass box that projected miniature monsters (which would be pretty fuc*ing hype in real life) that added a new experience to a normal card game and an additional psychological effect (i.e. making Yugi's grandpa pass out). In the show, duels were done from the start in arenas with larger holograms for a better atmosphere for both in-universe spectators and the real-life audience. In Duelist Kingdom, Kaiba demonstrated his prototype Duel Disk, designed to counteract Pegsus's apparent cheating method; in both media the effects of the Duel DIsk prototype seemed "more real" than the already reactive arena duels, but in the manga it added space between the players as opposed to sitting at a table together, which didn't come across as much in the anime since the arena setting already put distance between the players. With both the prototype and finished Duel Disk, he presumably used some sort of hardlight technology, and some ambient scent distribution at the very least to increase the "presence" of the monsters. I remember Joey exclaiming that Battle Ox or whatever really felt like it was there, unlike the arena monsters which supposedly did not. Of course the Shadow Games later introduced the concept of the damage actual feeling real, and got progressively more common as the series continued with the monsters themselves actually manifesting in physical form. And yet it's always a surprise to the characters when it happens.

I think the last Ritual Monsters I saw were an attempt at making them useful, with a Ritual Spell card that summons any 1 kind of Ritual Monster or something, and some effect beating/using Synchro monsters. Too little, too late, because Rituals are obsolete. It's pretty clear they were going for the "special" summon type (as in a type of Monster card with one general rule for summoning it) with Ritual Monsters back when the game first started and getting an effectless monster out with a spell card like that so "easily" was a big deal, but the game got more complicated and getting new monsters out became so easy to do that having to use a specific Spell card for only one specific Monster became too much work for not as much payoff. Looking at the line of Ritual -> Fusion -> Synchro -> XYZ and thinking about how they work, it's easy to see that they refined the concept of the special summon over time, making them better every generation, but Ritual Monsters never could keep up with the metagame. Fusions still have some variety to them and can make for interesting situations in the right deck
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; Synchros are so goddamn easy to get out and usually more than worth the effort, making not having one of the main Synchro monsters in your Extra Deck a bad choice; and XYZ seems like a fair balance between ease to get out and not being so goddamn OP with a limited number of effect use. I haven't been in the game for a couple years, so I'm not up to date on the current meta, or this new special summon.

Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia said:
Once per turn, by using the number on the Pendulum Scale of the 2 Pendulum Monsters in the Pendulum Zones as a reference, you can Pendulum Summon any number of monsters from your hand and/or Pendulum Monsters from your Extra Deck with a Level between the blue Pendulum Scale of the Pendulum Monster in the left Pendulum Zone and the red Pendulum Scale of the Pendulum Monster in the right Pendulum Zone.[4] When a Pendulum Summon is negated, such as by Horn of Heaven, the Special Summons of all monsters that would be Summoned are negated at once.

Since you can only Pendulum Summon monsters whose Levels are between the Pendulum Scales of the 2 Pendulum Monsters in your Pendulum Zones, if they have Pendulum Scales that are either the same or have a difference of 1, you cannot perform a Pendulum Summon, because there is no Level number that exists between them. (Even if you cannot perform a Pendulum Summon, you still gain the Pendulum Effects of the Pendulum Monsters in the Pendulum Zones.)

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And I also like how this is supposed to be holograms but they act hurt when their life points are attacked directly.

That's Kaiba's "Solid Vision" system, which he developed for his duel disk tech. People are hurt if they're attacked directly. Don't remember when this was explained though. It might never have been in the english dub knowing 4kids.
 
That's Kaiba's "Solid Vision" system, which he developed for his duel disk tech. People are hurt if they're attacked directly. Don't remember when this was explained though. It might never have been in the english dub knowing 4kids.

is THIS why Yugi's Grandpa gets hurt in the first episode after being kidnapped by Kaiba?
 
is THIS why Yugi's Grandpa gets hurt in the first episode after being kidnapped by Kaiba?

No, his old age just meant his mind couldn't take the illusions, so it caused him some mental strain or something. Kaiba only developed the Solid Vision tech for the Duel Disks, it wasn't in normal arenas.

Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia said:
Duel Monsters cards contain microchips. When the cards are played in a Battle Box, Dueling Arena, Duel Disk or Duel Runner, the microchip is activated. The data it contains is used to created the Solid Vision holograms. Although not shown in the Battle Box/Dueling Arena, from Duel Disks onward, Solid Vision has the ability to inflict physical damage to the opponent in order to make it more realistic.

That's Kaiba's "Solid Vision" system, which he developed for his duel disk tech. People are hurt if they're attacked directly. Don't remember when this was explained though. It might never have been in the english dub knowing 4kids.

It was touched on when he first showed it in his duel against Joey, and later when he stood on the edge of the castle in a successful attempt to keep Yugi from attacking him and winning the duel, claiming the resulting blast from his monster's attack would push him to his death.
 
well mostly everything 4kids touches turns into shit. I'm pretty sure the original and superior japanese version was better (and the manga too).

I still can't believe they trashed the amazing Openings this show had for some shitty, half baked, autotuned and crappy excuse of a song.
 
Just came in to agree that Yami before the TCG was the best. PENALTY GAME!!

He trapped Kaiba in a "Hell" where monsters were killing and devouring him over and over, presumably for weeks or months.



His little brother left thinking he was stuck in a tiny prison, after cheating at a collectible game with monsters in capsules:


http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Penalty_Game

The manga was dark as hell. And so good. The first 6-7 books is what I still consider the best and only good Yu-Gi-Oh with all the different games and punishments. After a few episodes of the anime I just read that, quit and satisfied never came back to the whole thing.
 
Of the card games I've ever played, Yugioh is the only one I ever like, played. The show however, it's very easy to see in season 1 that at the time the creator just intended for the card game to be basically a means to an end. It started off as just a "game" show, not necessarily for cards.
So in season 1 before he went all in with it, you get shit like capapult turtle, electrifying Ultimate Great Moth or whatever, and Yugi literally summoning a monster and attacking during someone else's turn for no reason at all. Oh and the Harpy ladies getting random huge buffs of varying amounts just because they can "fly". Yah, uhuh.
 
I guess I'm moving into oldGAF... Because when this show came out, we all knew it was garbage. And I'm talking anime fans here.. Thought it was garbage.

Yep. All of these shows that were basically just made to sell merchandise to kids are horrible. Be it Pokemon, Digimon, Beyblade, Yu Gi Oh and all that other crap.
 
Could be worse.

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God do I love early 2000 and all the butchered anime we got. Shaman King, One Piece, Ultimate Muscle, Digimon. I can't even remember all the shit I used to watch before realizing it was radically different from the original.

Remember in Shaman King where whenever a character would die they'd say they were "Destroyed."? "Oh man! Faust destroyed all of his opponents up until now, you don't stand a chance Yoh!" Good times.

Shaman King is still my favorite manga, I don't remember watching the anime though.
 
I vaguely remember an episode where Kaiba and Yugi were fighting and after Yugi claws back from certain defeat Kaiba steps up on a ledge and says that the resulting shockwave from his creature being destroyed will send him plummeting to his death.

I really hope I just dreamt that up.

You didn't, I was gonna say the same thing. It was in the Pegasus arc and they were dueling on the rampart of his castle or something which is why they were so high up
 
It's been years, but I recall really digging the manga when I read half of the series back in high school.

That dub anime was straight up bull, and was saved by the Abridged series.
 
Couldn't get into the TCG due to my worries of my sweaty ass hands messing up the cards. :( That, and the rules confused the hell outta me. Loved the show though; I dug the whole Egyptian backstory, especially the entirety of the Egyptian God Cards arc. Man, Ra's design and the final duel blew my adolescent mindddddddddd awaaaaaaayyyyy
 
All the talk of Shaman King, was it actually good? It used to be my favorite manga but I never finished it since I stopped buying Shonen Jump.

I kinda wanna go back and finish it but I fear it's gonna be total shit.

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The art is still fucking awesome, though. Just look at that cool motherfucker.
 
I never liked it really, especially early on as i played the game at a high level irl and it always pissed me off when they used terrible cards and misplayed lol.
I think the only cards they ever used early in on the show that were even worth a damn in the real game were DMOC and mirror force.


I do however remember the yugi and joey game, that was cool.
I stopped watching and playing right at that end of 5DS and the start of the anime after that.
It could be different now i guess.
 
All the talk of Shaman King, was it actually good? It used to be my favorite manga but I never finished it since I stopped buying Shonen Jump.

I kinda wanna go back and finish it but I fear it's gonna be total shit.

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The art is still fucking awesome, though. Just look at that cool motherfucker.

Everything up until the ending is excellent.
 
I would love to live in a world where you could renegotiate your mortgage, win a court case, or get a job by dueling.

Your honor, I may have killed that man but I believe you should drop all charges against me and, to prove my claim, it's time to d-d-d-d-d-duel!

Edit: Also, was I the only person who always heard as kunai whip chain whenever that card was used? Sounded like a cool weapon.
 
What's the best online dueling system atm? Yugioh online is done. I remember there were a few fan made ones a few years ago. Which are still alive?
 
Yugioh Dark Duel Stories for GBC is the shit. Best damn card game ever. Ive played it on and off for years and still haven't beaten it. But it always grabs my attention again when I go to it. So much content in a small game.
The game was terrible especially when you summoned a monster with high attack points and loses to a weaker monster because elemental weakness.
 
Yu-Gi-Oh 5ds is probably my favorite series but the original holds a special spot in my heart. :)

I highly recommend sticking to the japanese versions for each show as there are censorships for each show in the dubbed version. Avoid Zexal like the plague though, shit is terrible!

Also Yu-Gi-Oh games have some of the best music. Go play YGO: Duelist of the Roses for PS2 or YGO: Falsebound Kingdom for Gamecube, very interesting and original take on the YGO game.
 
All the talk of Shaman King, was it actually good? It used to be my favorite manga but I never finished it since I stopped buying Shonen Jump.

I kinda wanna go back and finish it but I fear it's gonna be total shit.

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The art is still fucking awesome, though. Just look at that cool motherfucker.

I used to try to emulate this artstyle so much. The resuts were so bad.
 
I don't even remember their normal voices since I watched the abridged series.


"...IN AMERICA" always cracks me up.
 
I don't even remember their normal voices since I watched the abridged series.


"...IN AMERICA" always cracks me up.

I think because of that, any time I've tried to rewatch the show, I make an effort to find the dub version over the 4Kids version
 
I remember watching it awhile ago because people talked it up so much, but Yugi vs Jaden was kind of cool in concept, bullshit ending tho because Jaden's technique had a better and more flexible setup. He had fusion for literally everything
 
Have any of you ever played the GBA Shaman King games? They kick so much ass. They're essentially Shaman King-skinned Metroidvanias.

I believe the first one is called "Master of Spirits," I forget what the second one was. There's also a crummy card game knockoff, just ignore that one. IIRC they're pretty cheap.
 
I still remember spending like $10 at Walmart to get some shitty 20 page "edition" of Shonen Jump that came with Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon.

Obviously 10 bucks ain't like those people who spend hundreds on one card, but still first time I spent more than like a few cents on a card. :P

And I never took that card out of the packaging to this day.
 
I still remember spending like $10 at Walmart to get some shitty 20 page "edition" of Shonen Jump that came with Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon.

Obviously 10 bucks ain't like those people who spend hundreds on one card, but still first time I spent more than like a few cents on a card. :P

And I never took that card out of the packaging to this day.

I payed $20 for a box of packs that came with a Five-Headed Dragon.
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Combo'd with-
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Won a few local tournies with this combo, it was controversial every single time I used it due to the wording of not being able to be special summoned and the special summoning being treated as a fusion summon. The refs had to get involved and they sided with me, then this combo became popular enough that there was just a standing rule in my local tournies that they weren't to be bothered with it. Good times, but then the whole game got overtaken by archetypes and I didn't have the money to keep up. I was the Oregon state champ one year, though.
 
I remember asking a friend of mine if the show was any good back in the day when it as one TV. I had already aged out of the demographic at the time, but was hungry for a new anime.

The following is an approximation of the resulting conversation:

Him: Well, remember that old Dungeon and Dragons cartoon?

Me: Yeah. It was kinda cool.

Him: Well imagine the D&D cartoon if everyone spent the entire half hour throwing dice at each other while also bragging about their THACO. That's pretty much what Yu-Gi-Oh is like.

I didn't believe him. Oh gods, why didn't I believe him?!
 
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