Thanks for the confirmation. I had his starter deck for some reason lol. Can't remember if it was any good.
Thinking on it, the Yu-Gi-Oh anime is on some straight up bullshit.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I had his starter deck for some reason lol. Can't remember if it was any good.
chaosblade
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I've never seen or heard anything about this, and searching around, I'm seeing a lot of mentions of Gearfried + Butterfly Dagger still functioning (likely why Butterfly Dagger was banned, I assume it still is).
There's also not really any way around it in the wording on the cards since it doesn't miss the timing, unless the opponent chains a card maybe.
chickdigger802
Banned
so currently, what is the highest unbuffed attack on a monster card?
how about with buffs? It doesn't seem that hard to go over 20k attack these days.
how about with buffs? It doesn't seem that hard to go over 20k attack these days.
chaosblade
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I know there are plenty of cards with 5000, so there are probably fusions or synchros or XYZ things higher than that.
Was I The only one who used a calculator to calculate life points? Suck at maths yo
We always estimated for the sake of speed (since we usually only had around 5-8 minutes to play, and we liked to get a few games in). At least unless someone insisted otherwise, usually because they had cards that relied on knowing specific LP figures.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Was I The only one who used a calculator to calculate life points? Suck at maths yo
There are 2 calculators in the draw my yugioh cards are in back at my parents house still. I should probably go get them some day, they were pretty nice financial ones and would come in handy with real life accounting problems.
chaosblade
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I was going to say, what the hell, but apparently it's not an actual card, it's anime-only. And given that effect it will probably remain anime only since it's an instant win in the unlikely event you are able to play it.
I looked up the description on the card and my head seriously hurts. Extra Deck? Xyz Material? Number Monsters? How can anyone follow what is going on anymore? Do Number Bonds make it easier?
Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Numbers" monster. When a "Chaos Number 1000: Numerronius" you control is destroyed: You can Xyz Summon this card from your Extra Deck by using it as the Xyz Material. This card cannot be destroyed by card effects and cannot declare an attack. Your opponent cannot target other monsters for an attack. During the End Phase of a turn your opponent did not attack, they lose the Duel. You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate 1 of your opponent's attack, and if you do, gain Life Points equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.
Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Numbers" monster. When a "Chaos Number 1000: Numerronius" you control is destroyed: You can Xyz Summon this card from your Extra Deck by using it as the Xyz Material. This card cannot be destroyed by card effects and cannot declare an attack. Your opponent cannot target other monsters for an attack. During the End Phase of a turn your opponent did not attack, they lose the Duel. You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate 1 of your opponent's attack, and if you do, gain Life Points equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.
chaosblade
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Extra deck = fusion deck of yore. It has more stuff in it now (Fusions, Synchros, Xyzs).
Number monsters are an archtype I think. Archtypes have been around since the beginning.
I don't really know much about how Xyz monsters work though, that and Synchros are new things that came about after I stopped playing.
Edit: Synchro monsters sound kind of like Ritual monsters done better. Xyz looks a lot more unique and complicated. I can see how those probably changed the game in a huge way.
Zomba13
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I was way into Yugioh (the card game) at one point. Stopped around the time they introduced mosnter cards with levels and 'hidden rare' cards or some bullshit (shiny versions or normal/rare cards). When I checked in from time to time around the web it seemed to just get more and more ridiculous.
Kinda want to have a round or two with my old decks against a deck using the newer stuff. I had a pretty beastly deck and a cool Exodia one. Dunno where my god card is now though.
Yugioh abridged is awesome though and best way to watch the anime.
Kinda want to have a round or two with my old decks against a deck using the newer stuff. I had a pretty beastly deck and a cool Exodia one. Dunno where my god card is now though.
Yugioh abridged is awesome though and best way to watch the anime.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
I literally blew off a second trip to King's Island that summer so that I could go to the YuGiOh! movie on opening day.
I regret nothing.
It also is rank 13, in a game where the max rank/level is 12. It's final boss broken.
I'd say it's time to duel but there's no point since your XYZ bullshit means every deck either has two 2600 ATK monsters that you have to kill 3 times to kill on the field by turn one or it loses.
Turbowaffles
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Oh yeah. Wasn't Yugi-Oh pretty screwed up before it became an informercial? eg. Yugi setting people on fire, Kaiba being locked in a mental institution after a vision of being eaten by his dragons.
Not to mention the knife games/scorpion/snake in the shoe/bag variants.
edit: Beaten badly.
Zomba13
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Zexal hair game is next level.
Oh cool. Didn't know there were new DBZ episodes.
chickdigger802
Banned
Did Zexal have setting monsters yet? Or is it still summon in defense mode?
I don't think man eater bug's effect ever happened in the show
I still find it odd that yugioh tends to play it quite lose with the rules of the game vs other infomercial tcg shows that pretty much told some story and pretty much gave you advice on how to build certain decks and how to play them effectively.
Most of the yugioh show decks would only work if you can bullshit draw the card you need.
And is LP still 4000?
I don't think man eater bug's effect ever happened in the show
I still find it odd that yugioh tends to play it quite lose with the rules of the game vs other infomercial tcg shows that pretty much told some story and pretty much gave you advice on how to build certain decks and how to play them effectively.
Most of the yugioh show decks would only work if you can bullshit draw the card you need.
And is LP still 4000?
You're right, I'm misremembering something. Destroyed vs discarded vs sent to the graveyard was a big distinction, but both butterfly dagger and gearfried clearly say 'destroyed'. The distinction must have been created for something else (it was not in the original rulebook).
Perhaps I was recalling speculation prior to Gearfried's English translation was that it would be specified in English to say 'sent to the graveyard' rather than 'destroyed'? It's been a long time since I played.
dakkumauji
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Did Zexal have setting monsters yet? Or is it still summon in defense mode?
I don't think man eater bug's effect ever happened in the show
I still find it odd that yugioh tends to play it quite lose with the rules of the game vs other infomercial tcg shows that pretty much told some story and pretty much gave you advice on how to build certain decks and how to play them effectively.
Most of the yugioh show decks would only work if you can bullshit draw the card you need.
And is LP still 4000?
I think setting has been a thing since maybe Battle City when there were suddenly rules to follow?
I think Man Eater Bug happened in some filler or something.
Yes, LP is still 4000.
D
Diggeh
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I remember buying those uncensored DVDs for Shaman King and Yu-Gi-Oh! that 4Kids miraculously put out. Then they stopped. :\
GX was the school one right? I liked the concept for that one. Could have been better but I liked it more than the first concept. Didn't even bother with 5Ds or Zexal...
Rhomega Beta
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5ds is good better than gx in my opinion. Zexal, from what I've seen, is garbage.
have fun hoping yuou draw ritual cards and have the right monsters at the same time.
They likely stopped because they weren't selling.
If there was money to be made, you could count on them to keep putting them out.
dakkumauji
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Yeah, basically the rankings from what I heard are
5D >>> GX >>>>>>> Yu-Gi-Oh >>>>>>>>>>> ZeXal
Conrad Link
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Me and my brother use to play the actual card game, I couldn't help making it a song and dance show.
"NOT SO FAST!"
"YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!"
"I ACTIVE POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO TAKE TWO CARDS FROM MY DECK AND ADD THEM TO MY HAND."
"YOUR MOVE."
"I ATTACK YOUR LIFE POINTS DIRECTLY! ITS OVER KAIBA!"
Then we watch professional players just sitting there calmly playing and it looks really boring lol.
As far as the show goes, after Battle City I started losing interest. But man that was awesome! Peak of the franchise for me. I loved watching Yugi 'hax' his way through the impossible battles, seeing how they creatively did it.
"NOT SO FAST!"
"YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!"
"I ACTIVE POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO TAKE TWO CARDS FROM MY DECK AND ADD THEM TO MY HAND."
"YOUR MOVE."
"I ATTACK YOUR LIFE POINTS DIRECTLY! ITS OVER KAIBA!"
Then we watch professional players just sitting there calmly playing and it looks really boring lol.
As far as the show goes, after Battle City I started losing interest. But man that was awesome! Peak of the franchise for me. I loved watching Yugi 'hax' his way through the impossible battles, seeing how they creatively did it.
The original series was dope up to Battle City. It fell off after that arc.
That Noah Cyber World filler arc was a drag too but I still watched it every week.
I remember in middle school we used to play by the TV rules and just make shit up. It worked pretty well because everybody really bought into the bullshit.
Kaiba was about that life.
Yugi was too cause he was gonna kill Kaiba to get that win.
That Noah Cyber World filler arc was a drag too but I still watched it every week.
I remember in middle school we used to play by the TV rules and just make shit up. It worked pretty well because everybody really bought into the bullshit.
Kaiba was about that life.
Yugi was too cause he was gonna kill Kaiba to get that win.
As far as I remember (don't quote me on this), they kept using 4000 LP on each duel for make them shorter.
My life changed the moment I first heard that song with both of my undergrad roommates.
Conrad Link
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I really liked battles like Yugi deafting Slifer the Sky Dragon, I thought that was the coolest shit, or finding a way to defeat an Exodia deck.
Yugi and Joey bffs, NO MATTER WHAT!
Yugi vs Kaiba in the semi of Battle City was the Ash vs Gary of the Johto League. Sooooo good, and nothing could follow it for interest/excitement/feelings.
I love the abridged series because a whole lot of the funny comes from things that actually happened in the show, indicating how ridiculous it all was lol.
"CHECK HIS PULSE!"
Yugi and Joey bffs, NO MATTER WHAT!
Yugi vs Kaiba in the semi of Battle City was the Ash vs Gary of the Johto League. Sooooo good, and nothing could follow it for interest/excitement/feelings.
I love the abridged series because a whole lot of the funny comes from things that actually happened in the show, indicating how ridiculous it all was lol.
"CHECK HIS PULSE!"
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Weirdly the Abridged series is perfect for if you want to rewatch the series, since you still get the gist of it while being way faster. It's also still damn funny, even if most of it is just referential humor.
The fact we went 5 replies without this being brought up is absolutely surreal.
I loved watching the show as a kid, but man was it stupid at times.
Also, when playing with my friends and them playing a monster i was like
Fuck rituals. Red-Eyes, Lvl Monsters, and Heroes are the only way to cheat big monsters out proper. And the game shouldn't be about cheating out huge monsters early anyways.
On the subject of Red-Eyes, fuck what they're doing with Blue-Eyes.
Blue-Eyes is supposed to be the beat down player's monster of choice. Big, powerful, hard to kill in its various forms.
Red-Eyes is supposed to be the combo player's card of choice. Utter crap by itself, but ultra versatile through the cards in its family.
Now they're giving Blue-Eyes shit that is Red-Eyes territory. Screw that nonsense!
Red eyes? Blue Eyes? Those are old people monsters. They would get roasted by D-heroes.
chickdigger802
Banned
Except duels are still too long because each card has like 3 effects that need to be re explained each duel.
Lol it's funny how they had to kinda retcon blue eyes red eyes and dark magician to be competitive decks because they were popular with tons of cards specific for them.
Is cyber dragon decks still worth while? Cyber stein banned unbanned ATM?
Bullshit. I'll take a non-XYZ D-Heroes deck with my Red-Eyes deck any day
Red-Eyes wasn't retconned, even when it first came out it had cards that were all about taking a shitty 2 sac monster and making it awesome.
Dark Magician kinda was.
Blue-Eyes is being actively retconned because a vanilla 3000/2500 has always been terrible. Problem is that instead of doing it in the spirit of the card, they're basically making it Red-Eyes 2, but better.
As for your question? Couldn't tell you. I slowed down playing at synchro and stopped entirely at XYZ.
Professor Renegade
Banned
You just don't believe in the heart of the cards, OP.
Rhomega Beta
Member
No mention of Bandit Keith yet?
The most patriotic American in all of anime.
He was my favorite character...
In America!
Gearfried + Butterfly Dagger + Royal Magical Library was never an instant win under the official English rules. At least, not from between the initial release of the game and the IoC set. Long before those cards all got an English release, Konami/Upper Deck learned from the Japanese metagame and introduced a distinction between 'destroyed' and 'discarded' so Gearfried's effect would not trigger Butterfly Dagger.
The official rules were really quite complicated. Konami/Upper Deck clearly made some of the rules up as they went along in order to fix unexpected card interactions like Butterfly Dagger + Gearfried. Another great one is the fuzzy distinction between cost and effect (for which they flip-flopped on whether you must pay upkeep costs on continuous effects that have been negated).
I think my favourite, however, was Relinquished. It was the most complex card imaginable. The effect of absorbing opponents' monsters resulted in the smallest card text I've ever seen, and required an errata to get right. The original text, for example, missed what happens when you absorb a face-down monster.
Even better, the fusion of Relinquished, Thousand-Eyes Restrict, had even more abilities. Some were not even written on the card, because they couldn't fit. The errata added all the abilities of Relinquished to Thousand-Eyes Restrict on top of its own complex ability.
I remember some asshole stole my Relinquished when I wasn't looking in middle school. Straight off the table. Repressed memories.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Really? Do I dare watch?
Riposte
Member
I thought the duels were neat to follow weekly with bite sized manga updates.
Also I really disliked the localization of the card names and graphics after sticking with Japanese cards and using this site for translations: http://edo-hrzic.com/archive/Yugioh.htm. I can't believe it is still up.
Also I really disliked the localization of the card names and graphics after sticking with Japanese cards and using this site for translations: http://edo-hrzic.com/archive/Yugioh.htm. I can't believe it is still up.
Do you want to high five the sky?
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Judge for yourself. It seems the MC has a circus theme for his cards, which is at least pretty unique. I'll give it a shot.
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