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Should Anime Games Be Taken More Seriously?

mdubs

Banned
So isn't Persona an anime game then? That gets taken pretty seriously among people who know what it is and on GAF
 

Dice//

Banned
If it's stupid tits and ass jokes that go on the entire length of the game like Neptunia, then no (I'm not commenting on the title's gameplay however).

If it is a legitimately thought provoking or well written plot then sure!
I think one of few JRPGs that really work here is Tales of the Abyss (for reasons that are a lot longer than I'm willing to explain here).

I personally hated Ni no Kuni and the sales for it baffle me for anything other than the way it looks and sounds... I thought it played terribly and the plot by the endgame wasn't terribly satisfying.

I'm kinda genralizing, I don't really know where to start answering such an expansive question.
 

JordanN

Banned
Is Ni No Kuni evidence that more original and deeper anime games have a market on consoles?

This applies to any video game.
As you said, the other anime games are phoned in. Why would anyone take those seriously if it were a different genre?
 
The only thing I would ever consider an Anime game are games based on anime, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, Ranma 1/2 etc. You chose your topic title poorly.
 

Salex_

Member
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Do you mean bigger budgets for games with anime art styles?

I would like to see a 3rd person action/adventure Darker Than Black, Black lagoon, Baccano, or Ergo Proxy game.
What constitutes an anime game?

Marvel vs Capcom.
 

Usobuko

Banned
Man, if only people takes Ys more seriously. Selling good enough for an extremely niche product isn't my kind of interpretation.
 
Not really sure what point you're trying to make here since by "anime game" you just mean a Japanese animated-style. There's plenty of games, in plenty of genres, that plenty of people "take seriously".

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Nah, it's just way too disgusting and sexually offensive.
 

Branduil

Member
I don't know what an "anime game" is besides games which are specifically based on an existing anime property. And those are only rarely good.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
debatable. It has the feel of anime, but it doesn't have actual anime in it.

To be less pedantic, I suppose it'd be fine to say "video games that include anime scenes or a style reminiscent of anime", but I still think it's really, really vague. When I think "anime game", I think of a game based on an anime series like Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm or something.

And to the OP question... sure? I don't think games should be taken less seriously because of a bias surrounding their artstyle. Recettear has an artstyle that I could see turning people off, but it's a cool game, for example.

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Also, people already take these games pretty "seriously." Catherine, The World Ends With You, Persona, Ace Attorney... they're all games that a lot of people loved. A good game is a good game, and people will recognize that regardless of art style.
 
When games with anime style visuals are good, they are praised. Persona 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Ni No Kuni.

Problem is, like anime shows, there is a lot of dreck out there made to appeal to fringe fans who will just lap up anything that looks vaguely anime, and that shit is hard to take seriously.
 
I'm not sure majority of GAF have played a wide enough breadth of 'game with a Japanese visual design' to make that kind of judgement.

Myself included.
 

Harpuea

Member
Same with any other form of media. You don't take Barny the Purple dinosaur seriously, but you take a BBC documentary seriously. Anime have age ranges. I can't stand Shonen "boy" shit nowadays. Seinen "Adult" is what I usually enjoy. So yeah, Adult anime with dark themes should be taken seriously. However, Japan is obsessed with Kawaii these days. It is sad to look back at gems like Cowboy Bebop, Blue Gender, Votom, wondering to myself why those disappeared.
 

Shinta

Banned
All I know is that I never took any of the Naruto games seriously.

Then I tried one of the demos for a Naruto game from last year and it's one of the most gorgeous graphical games I've ever seen. I honestly feel like the visuals destroy NNK. It just literally looked like the cartoon. As faithful of a translation as South Park, but more impressive graphically.

I don't know anyone who respects those games though, and I didn't either until I saw that.
 
Same with any other form of media. You don't take Barny the Purple dinosaur seriously, but you take a BBC documentary seriously. Anime have age ranges. I can't stand Shonen "boy" shit nowadays. Seinen "Adult" is what I usually enjoy. So yeah, Adult anime with dark themes should be taken seriously. However, Japan is obsessed with Kawaii these days. It is sad to look back at gems like Cowboy Bebop, Blue Gender, Votom, wondering to myself why those disappeared.

Because they haven't. People are just being exposed to more anime then before.
 
When games with anime style visuals are good, they are praised. Persona 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Ni No Kuni.

Problem is, like anime shows, there is a lot of dreck out there made to appeal to fringe fans who will just lap up anything that looks vaguely anime, and that shit is hard to take seriously.


So much this.
 

Essay

Member
I take anime games more seriously than anime at least, or at least specifically anime fighting games. Other fighting games just don't get my adrenaline pumping in the same way.
 
All I know is that I never took any of the Naruto games seriously.

Then I tried one of the demos for a Naruto game from last year and it's one of the most gorgeous graphical games I've ever seen. I honestly feel like the visuals destroy NNK. It just literally looked like the cartoon. As faithful of a translation as South Park, but more impressive graphically.

I don't know anyone who respects those games though, and I didn't either until I saw that.

I showed this to some of my friends that don't watch anime and barely play videogames and they thought it was awesome and a lot of fun.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
When games with anime style visuals are good, they are praised. Persona 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Ni No Kuni.

Problem is, like anime shows, there is a lot of dreck out there made to appeal to fringe fans who will just lap up anything that looks vaguely anime, and that shit is hard to take seriously.

Extremely wise words. When we get away from the awful pandering muck that is currently kinda fucking "anime games" in general (and hell, let's just say it - anime as a whole) then they may be taken seriously.
 

Silky

Banned

Everything is anime, then.

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Everything with an 'anime' look/asthetic/inspiration (just say made by japanese developers) aren't the same damn thing. That being said, don't play Neptunia. I find Neptunia disgusting and sexually offensive.
 
If it's done by Atlus/Falcom then yes.

And honestly, it's really amusing to see people disregard a game just because it has an anime art-style.
 

daniels

Member
With Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on PS3 and Ni No Kuni: Dominion of the Dark Djinn on DS (Japan only) going on to sell a combined 1.4 million units worldwide; does that make a case for anime based games to be taken more seriously? It seems like many anime games are usually just bare-bones fighters or phoned in beat-em-ups or hack and slash games. Is Ni No Kuni evidence that more original and deeper anime games have a market on consoles?

EDIT: for clarification i will use this wiki definition as to what I'm referring to when i say "anime".

I liked Zone of the Enders 2, Dragon Quest 8, Wild Arms, Breath of Fire, Dead or Alive, FF7, Tales of.. and countless other games :p Ni no kuni isnt the first game that sells well lol
 
What do you mean by taken seriously?

This. I don't understand what the OP is trying to say.

If you think of the question as concerning one individual, than you could say that people takes games seriously if they're invested in them or if they really like them I guess. Games that person doesn't play/care for will not be taken seriously naturally.

Wait, now I'm confusing myself. The only context I've seen this kind of question used in is when someone is asking about the competitive viability of a game.

But the OP doesn't mention anything like that.
 

UberTag

Member
Most of the games with anime roots that end up halfway decent tend to find an audience.
And some, like Ni no Kuni, even manage to capture mainstream attention.

But, on the whole, they're taken as seriously as they deserve to be.

Except for Trails in the Sky. More people need to play Trails in the Sky.
 
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