Should Anime Games Be Taken More Seriously?
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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I'm guessing the OP was born after developers outside of Japan started to actually be good.
Aaron-Lagann
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I think every game should have an anime art style and dating sim elements. Literally every game. Mass Effect? Halfway there. Zelda? More anime, more waifu options. Pong? Maybe not pong.
Sums up Ni No Kuni.
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outunderthestars
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Mauricio_Magus
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I don't take kind of people seriously. It's their loss for being so close minded.
I'm not the biggest fan, but the Atelier series is REALLY good. I just can't stomach one every year.
SolidSnakesMyStepDad
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tokyostomp
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According to another thread;
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Zone of the Enders
Vanquish
but EVERYTHING is anime.
World of Tanks? Girls und Panzer.
CoD: Black Ops 2? Highschool of the Dead.
Titanfall? Fucking Evangelion
Assassin's Creed? JJBA
The Last of Us? Ellie's pretty damn tsundere in the beginning of the game
This again oh boy.
Anime is taken too seriously as it is. It's pretty creepy
Yes, everything is anime. Must be why I hate everything.
Anime is taken too seriously as it is. It's pretty creepy
Yes, everything is anime. Must be why I hate everything.
XiaNaphryz
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Man, how long of a list can we compile of games that, at the very least, have a Japanese artistic inspired design/direction?
From all the Street Fighter series to the Phoenix Wright games to RPGs like Grandia and Skies of Arcadia...and what about stuff like DDR or Rhythm Tengoku? Sports titles like Hot Shots Golf. Etc etc!
From all the Street Fighter series to the Phoenix Wright games to RPGs like Grandia and Skies of Arcadia...and what about stuff like DDR or Rhythm Tengoku? Sports titles like Hot Shots Golf. Etc etc!
Wonko_C
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Newsflash: Most 8 bit and 16 bit games used anime style, while not noticeable in gameplay due to the limited resolution, cutscenes, intros and endings often depicted their characters in close ups, and they were almost always done in anime style. So they have been always taken seriously... we just didn't know.
And the generalization applied to an even greater amount of things.
Kinda OT and all, but: They didn't disappear and nothing really changed. Those things were far and few between when they came out and similar things still get made, but they are and always were rare. The mistake people make is that they look back and basically compare 30 years worth of productions to just one or two years.
The Grim Heaper
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I wonder when people will stop posting dreck like this. There's just as many diamonds in the rough as there were back then.
Last year we got The Eccentric Family, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Wolf Children, Samurai Flamenco, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Little Witch Academia among, very likely, a few more. So before you, or others, start going on about how much anime sucks now and the phase it's in is terrible: it's the same it's always been. There's garbage in every era, there's gems in every era. It's never going to change, and it's certainly not going to go away.
Every form of media goes through a phase where everyone tries to 1-up each other in the same artstyle or category, Japan use a 'moe' style for animation and the United States using a 'random nonsense' plot and look. Not everything is going to be perfect, that's stupid. But it's worse when everyone is doing the same thing. There's some gems hidden in the pile, but you need to dig a little bit for it, which is what everyone should do concerning everything anyway. Look past shit like Uncle Grandpa and you'll see Clarence, or Steven Universe. Look past shit like Seiji Kishit adaptations, and you'll find an adaptation like Steins;gate. Just have patience, and take off your goggles.
tl;dr shit's going through a phase just like many times before, still good shit in said shit
Nah, definitely exponentially more garbage now.
JoJo's been around since the 80s.
That being said, I agree. I think the cynicism from fans who won't see past their 'GOLDEN AGE ANIME WOOO FUCK YEAH IT WAS ALL GOOD BACK IN THE DAY' idiocy are the real root of the problem.
But that's another tale, for another day.
BinaryPork2737
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Pretty much. It's just most people who don't think so likely don't care enough to really browse through the immense amount of currently airing anime and are too strongly influenced by nostalgia to care.
Oh God, it's turning into a Dragon's Crown art thread. Abandon thread, ye who enter here.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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To answer the OP's question... nope.
Except that's not an anime based game
To answer the OP's question... nope.
What game is this from. Who are the developers. What system is this game for? When did it come out? WHo is the lead artist? This is an /ANIME/ game? Well I sure haven't seen a fucking anime like this? Are you sure this isn't original work inspired by western storytelling like Dungeons and Dragons???
You'd be doing a whole lot more than just posting an image that could be from anywhere by, like, explaining
Nightengale
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Care to back them up?
It's easy to cherrypick standout titles over the course of a few years and argue that against dozens of anime shows debuting every season.
The Grim Heaper
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Sure. Just like there's more garbage games, movies and books now. The more popular it gets, the more slop we'll get.
Doesn't mean it wasn't basically the same. Still wish-washy with garbage and greats. For every Ninja Resurrection and Idol Fighter Su-Chi-Pai, you have Utena and Gundam to enjoy.
I'm talking about the anime adaptation. Battle Tendency aired last year and it was my favorite series, plus it was a fantastic adaptation of parts 1 and 2.
outunderthestars
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if we are talking about Japanese art styles, as the OP clarified, then I reject the basic premise of the thread. Japanese art style in and of itself is so vast and varied that it can't be judged more or less seriously due the scope of it.
Vire
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Excuse me, I thought that image was pretty infamous around these parts so I will clarify.
That is from Dragon's Crown, developed by Vanillaware.
In the opening post:
Fits the bill of his description.
Aaron-Lagann
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Well, shit, I guess every game should have an anime art style. I was wrong to question Japan.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Uhhh...What do you mean?
I think a lot of people like Catherine, Zero Escape and Persona 4.
But "anime games"? Like Gundam games, JoJo ASB, or what
I think a lot of people like Catherine, Zero Escape and Persona 4.
But "anime games"? Like Gundam games, JoJo ASB, or what
I don't mean 'more' as in simply the amount, but do you really think both the amount and level of sexualization of anime / anime games between now and x years ago is the same?
People always say "it was the same back then, look!" and then post a random card captor sakura panty shot or something. How many Neptunia, Senran Kagura, Infinite Stratos, To Love, xmonogatari, etc gifs of girls getting sprayed with ice cream or sucking on sushi rolls need to be posted before a lack of 80s counter material is available?
Of course you can find example of whatever from any period, but to say more things aren't getting sexualized and that level of sexualization isn't getting more 'extreme' is silly.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Eh, this was just poorly conceived
I wouldn't bother splitting hairs, anyone familiar enough with Japanese games knows the OP's intent, and while it'd be nice for something like Megami Tensei to be a huge blockbuster I think this stuff is mostly set to be niche. It's not as if anime stuff is THE biggest in Japan either.
George Kamitani is a very special case.To answer the OP's question... nope.
You should use Muramasa to make your point, Dragons Crown is a fully western fantasy influenced game.
And that style is unique to kamitami himself not "Anime"
Cameron122
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Not until they take Star Citizen until they make it into a gundam game
I had a larger post but decided I don't want to ramble.
"Anime" is simply way too broad to make a decision to "respect" (or something, "take seriously") games involving "it" more or less as a whole. Not to mention the vagueness of defining all the needed terms, and determining how coupled it is to a game's quality in the first place.
"Anime" is simply way too broad to make a decision to "respect" (or something, "take seriously") games involving "it" more or less as a whole. Not to mention the vagueness of defining all the needed terms, and determining how coupled it is to a game's quality in the first place.
To answer the OP's question... nope.
People should really stop generalizing an entire artistic medium based on choice examples. It's really dumb.
Aaron-Lagann
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The thing I always remember when people say "Anime is one thing, this drawn thing from Japan is another" is that it might be true, but to almost every person not into anime, anything animated or drawn in Japan has an anime art style. "Anime Artstyle" doesn't refer to something being an anime, it refers to something looking like something drawn for an anime.
I have no problem saying Dragon's Crown is a game with an anime artstyle. It looks like an anime in the faces and has other similarities, so it's fine for people to call it that.
The Grim Heaper
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That's not the point I'm making at all. The poster was saying that they'll never have things like Cowboy Bebop, Blue Gender, Votom, etc. ever again when in reality they're still there. I know there's more fanservice and pandering around, and I do think it should come to a halt a bit in tons cases. But it's an entirely different argument from what I got into, and not something I'm calling out nor willing to debate right now.
Vire
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Are you really telling me that what I posted was an outlier of similarly styled "anime" games?
Because unfortunately, it is all too common. We can go down that road and I can provide numerous examples if you'd like. Ni No Kuni is simply fantastic in terms of art style and tone though and would absolutely love if more games of similar ilk followed in its footsteps.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Dragon's Crown and Studio Ghibli's style are just as outlier as each other.
I can't even think of any other series that look like Dragon's Crown.
do you think everyone in japan draws 'anime'
Nightengale
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Sigh. Just because nobody cares to keep. GIFs from Ikkitousen, Tenjou Tenge, Ranma, Flight Girls, Yamamoto, Mouse, etc doesn't mean they suddenly stop existing. It's only natural the newer shows have way more pics and GIFs compared to old shows that many aren't even available online.
Anyway, this is a hard topic to discuss without setting proper parameters for discussion. I'll try to see if I can be bothered to do a bit of research on this. :/
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Your uninformed generalizations aren't doing much to help your point, if you have one.