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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time

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cajunator

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I can't get mad at her. But she is legitimately dumb... I mean, so is everyone else in Smile, but she goes an extra mile.





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Is she as dumb as Usagi? Thats the true barometer.
 

Syrinx

Member
It's not really about being dumb, it's about wanting to jump into the world just to smack her if she ever says "ULTRA HAPPY!" again. Which she will. Probably about 182 more times.
 
Sadder then Clannad After Story. Bro come on.

Other than that you're right about everything else.
Yes, sadder because of the differences in how they end.
I mean, Air is the only Key show where the main heroine really does die in the end! Sure, Clannad/After Story has lots of sad stuff in it, but like Kanon, the ending is happy despite all the sad stuff that happened during the series. Air isn't like that.

And yeah, as I said, that Angel Beats doesn't end that way was, for me, one of the better things about it. I liked the show a lot up to that point, but the ending really could have ruined it if they had handled it wrong... but they didn't, and instead it was a great benefit.

I'll definitely give it that's definitely not a happy ending, but I'm more dissatisfied without how it feels unresolved. I guess I tend to like happier endings too (though I mean what work really has a purely sad ending? There's not a lot of them.) and I could've accepted Air's end if it was handled better. I guess, if anything, I'm not a fan of murky ends.
What works have purely sad endings? Some do... it may not be the most common way to end things, but there definitely are some shows that are like that. Air is among them.

As for unresolved/murky endings, that certainly is a huge, common issue in anime and manga, but I don't think Key stories usually have that problem, to their credit... do any of their animes, actually?

As for which is worse between a sad ending and a non-ending, though, that is kind of tough; I dislike both. Maybe it depends on how it's handled?

... Well as long as she's a Yandere sibling I guess that's okay, and of course them not actually being related it super obvious in hind sight, of course I am truly of the belief that whenever a Japanese series says "they're not REALLY siblings" it's more of a *wink wink* to get past the censors and that in the authors mind they are.
I agree on that last point, it probably is often that. Either that, or a dodge to make it just kind of forbidden and not REALLY bad. The problem is, of course, that it's scientifically proven that if people grew up together they treat eachtoher like siblings regardless of the blood relationship, so when they became siblings is a key point, not that animes ever consider that at all, of course; it doesn't fit with the usual ridiculous "siblings exist for forbidden love stories" stupidity, for sure!

Also, you like yanderes I guess? :p (Oh, and the series actually does have some plot behind their relationship. It probably all just exists as an excuse for that kind-of-incest element in the series that you describe, though.)

And I guess the easy appeal of incest relationships is the obvious forbidden love angle, it's basically Romen and Juliet in a way a modern otaku can understand. Forbidden love stories have always been popular, you can take 90% of the dialogue from any incest story just cutting out the few "onii chan/we're siblings" and replacing it with some other contrived reason why two characters can't be together and it'd play out virtually the same.
I guess you might be right here, but it's a seriously weird kind of forbidden relationship to focus on; the human disapproval of incest goes way, way back into prehistory, and makes perfect sense. Anime rarely cares much about sense, though, of course...
 

Gbraga

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So Banri managed to grab me with some finally deserved drama, and now I kinda hate Koko.

I guess you could call that a plot twist.

EDIT: Ok I don't hate her anymore, she's sticking to her bullshit, so that's ok.
 

cajunator

Banned
So Banri managed to grab me with some finally deserved drama, and now I kinda hate Koko.

I guess you could call that a plot twist.

EDIT: Ok I don't hate her anymore, she's sticking to her bullshit, so that's ok.

Koko is indecisive and crazy but thats part of her charm.
 

Syrinx

Member
Tenchi Universe 3

I like Ryo-Ohki better in this show where he doesn't talk and just wants carrots and shit rather than the him in Pretty Sammy.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
If I could speak again on Selector Infected WIXOSS for a second, I just want everyone to be aware that this is the kind of show that this actually is:

http://a.pomf.se/mocjfi.webm

I could complain about how it fails as a card battle show on the most fundamental level because it has zero interest in explaining the rules of its own game and establishes its characters' "power levels" solely through bystanders remarking "wow, she's so powerful!" or "I can't believe that there are people this good at WIXOSS!" with the expectation that the viewer will unquestioningly take the onlooker's word for it, but the fact that that most loathsome rot at the heart of the otaku industry has reached even shows with the relatively benign commercial purpose of advertising TCGs is even worthier of scorn. What a terrible show.
 

Sonicbug

Member
I watched Coffin Princess....

It's Scrapped Princess as fuck. Even down to the trio of siblings
that aren't really siblings
and people after them and the magic/science. Dude didn't go far from his comfort zone.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Ryuugajou Nanana no Maizoukin-1
Finally, another show that I've actually enjoyed. Really good storyboarding in some of the sequences, good character design, fun character interactions, interesting premise, and likable characters.
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I know a game that only requires my right hand too...

Turned out much better than I expected.
 
I agree on that last point, it probably is often that. Either that, or a dodge to make it just kind of forbidden and not REALLY bad. The problem is, of course, that it's scientifically proven that if people grew up together they treat eachtoher like siblings regardless of the blood relationship, so when they became siblings is a key point, not that animes ever consider that at all, of course; it doesn't fit with the usual ridiculous "siblings exist for forbidden love stories" stupidity, for sure!

Also, you like yanderes I guess? :p (Oh, and the series actually does have some plot behind their relationship. It probably all just exists as an excuse for that kind-of-incest element in the series that you describe, though.)

I guess you might be right here, but it's a seriously weird kind of forbidden relationship to focus on; the human disapproval of incest goes way, way back into prehistory, and makes perfect sense. Anime rarely cares much about sense, though, of course...

Who doesn't love Yandere's :p honestly it's just refreshing to have a sibling who's not fucking tsundere or overly moe towards her onii chan that she's super thirsty for.

On another note trying to watch Soul Eater Not is hurting my soul :'( why Bones? Why couldn't you have just made Soul Eater Brotherhood/Resonance and finished the manga story
 
No Game No Life Episode 1

This episode was pretty good and visuals weren't bad. As far as characters go the two MC were enjoyable. So can't wait till next week to see where it goes.
 

Gbraga

Member
You know what? Episode 22 was really good. I forgot how interesting this show is when it's just developing the relationship between the main cast, and talking about amnesia in a very interesting and, as far as I'm aware, different way, a more in depth approach to amnesia that goes beyond "background for a generic hero and/or lame plot twist". The whole ghost banri bullshit is bullshit, but it's almost nonexistent lately, so that's great.

That was honestly quite moving
(especially the fact that, in this case, dealing with amnesia basically means coming to terms with his "death")
, and I can't wait to see how it ends. This is the Golden Time that got me as far as episode 17 before quitting, not the absurd amount of random forced drama it had (the final part of the episode still had time for some forced bullshit though)
 

Quasar

Member
I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.

Yeah. I found another place to discuss novels because of it. No point in even bringing them up here. Its like discussing anime related games over on gaming side.
 

Quasar

Member
Have we finally reached the stage where retardation is now moe? This child can't speak proper sentences like an adult.

I thought that was just her being a foreigner, which I thought unusual given how all foreigners in anime normally perfectly understand and speak japanese.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Ping Pong-1

Absolutely great stuff. Best opener I've seen this season. All that glorious animation.

I wasn't sure I was going to like this going in as I have no interest in Ping Pong itself but it's less about the Ping Pong and more about the characters so far. Also the style everywhere makes it a blast to watch. Dat OST.

Also really like the ED.
 

Gazoinks

Member
When does Mekaku City Actors air? It's the last show I'm vaguely interested in, and I want to do my first episodes summary post already! :p
 

Branduil

Member
When are we getting a Demon's Souls anime adaptation?

Dark Souls 2 adaptation. KyoAni is announced as the studio making it and we even get to see episode 1 in an advanced preview but then at the last second they reveal all the other episodes were animated by White Fox.
 

fertygo

Member
Nanana - 01

Hey this is actually pretty good as far otaku animu goes, nice chara design.. funny banter, T&A.. what's not to like.

Would've better fit if this not aired on noitaminA, but whatever, this clicked on me better than other chuuni/otaku show that I checked so far.
 

Gbraga

Member
EDIT: Should probably mention I'm talking about Golden Time

Just one more to go, episode 23 was also brilliant, it's impressive how great the leap in quality was when this final arc started. I can't even tell how many times I cried during those last two episodes.

Banri and Mitsuo talking was quite something.

I never imagined the same anime that was overly dramatic about every single non issue possible could be so spot on with actual meaningful drama and move me to tears several times.

cajun was right once again, doing my best to endure the shitstorm was definitely worth it.

Please don't screw up the ending.
 

Gbraga

Member
Dark Souls 2 adaptation. KyoAni is announced as the studio making it and we even get to see episode 1 in an advanced preview but then at the last second they reveal all the other episodes were animated by White Fox.

Honestly, I do think some form of Dark Souls anime adaptation could work, a spin-off or something like that. The lore is quite rich, and as this magnificent video proves, Dark Souls is already anime as fuck.
 
I thought that was just her being a foreigner, which I thought unusual given how all foreigners in anime normally perfectly understand and speak japanese.
Yeah, the titular girl in Coffin Princess is a foreigner, so having her NOT be able to speak perfect Japanese is nice and fits her character; it's done for that reason for sure. Another recent character that's like that is Megan in her short appearance in the last episode of Saki S2; she's American and does have halting speech as well. (Aislinn, from earlier in the series, who is from New Zealand, speaks even less, and actually carries around this whiteboard to draw things on because of her poor Japanese.)

Who doesn't love Yandere's :p honestly it's just refreshing to have a sibling who's not fucking tsundere or overly moe towards her onii chan that she's super thirsty for.
I guess, but it'd be so much better if she really was just his sister... but this is basically harem, so there wasn't much of a chance that would happen. That that kind of a sentence even exists is pretty sad, though certainly accurate these days. (Also I kind of like tsunderes... not incestuous ones of course, but other tsunderes.)

On another note trying to watch Soul Eater Not is hurting my soul :'( why Bones? Why couldn't you have just made Soul Eater Brotherhood/Resonance and finished the manga story
I like yuri stuff so Soul Eater Not's okay... but sure, if it was a choice between that and a season finishing the original series, sure I'd rather see the latter. The parts of the original manga past the original anime series had some good moments for sure.

If I could speak again on Selector Infected WIXOSS for a second, I just want everyone to be aware that this is the kind of show that this actually is:

http://a.pomf.se/mocjfi.webm

I could complain about how it fails as a card battle show on the most fundamental level because it has zero interest in explaining the rules of its own game and establishes its characters' "power levels" solely through bystanders remarking "wow, she's so powerful!" or "I can't believe that there are people this good at WIXOSS!" with the expectation that the viewer will unquestioningly take the onlooker's word for it, but the fact that that most loathsome rot at the heart of the otaku industry has reached even shows with the relatively benign commercial purpose of advertising TCGs is even worthier of scorn. What a terrible show.
Ugh... won't be watching this one, for sure. Good to have the warning.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Ping Pong really surprised me in the OST area. There are some picks in the first episode. The train ride back song was really good.
 

Branduil

Member
Honestly, I do think some form of Dark Souls anime adaptation could work, a spin-off or something like that. The lore is quite rich, and as this magnificent video proves, Dark Souls is already anime as fuck.

Dark Souls is the kind of anime that never gets made any more, unless the framing story is a normal every-day high schooler in Japan gets trapped inside the Dark Souls world which is explicitly a video game world even in the story and not a legitimate, actual fantasy world.
 

Shengar

Member
Dark Souls is the kind of anime that never gets made any more, unless the framing story is a normal every-day high schooler in Japan gets trapped inside the Dark Souls world which is explicitly a video game world even in the story and not a legitimate, actual fantasy world.

Trapped that high schooler in Priscilla world and see the studio who adapts it rake profit.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Dark Souls is the kind of anime that never gets made any more, unless the framing story is a normal every-day high schooler in Japan gets trapped inside the Dark Souls world which is explicitly a video game world even in the story and not a legitimate, actual fantasy world.

I'd still watch it if it meant seeing a generic teenage insert wiener protagonist die several gruesome and agonizing deaths every episode.

Speaking from a less schadenfreude-driven standpoint, "You'll eventually get out of the game but you'll have to die thousands of horrifying deaths that you'll feel as if they were all real before you do" is a more interesting premise than "if you die in the game, you die in real life".
 
Soul Eater Not 1

The best parts of this episode were when the main SE cast showed up for cameos and when tsundere and weapon moe beat up the bullies, sadly this is gonna be our only action scene for awhile isn't it :(

Honestly I don't hate the idea/set up for the series ("love" triangle where one girl/weapon is the object of two friends/meisters who want her) I'm just afraid the next 8-10 episodes nothing will happen to advance the plot at all and I'll have to deal with episode after episode of cute girls being cute and moe girls fighting over each other for affection.

I also have to say tsundere meister is the one who should pair with moe weapon and not forgetful meister (I'm never gonna remember their names so that's what I'll call them) as forgetful meister and moe weapon really have no reason to be partners they've shown zero reason why they'd be compatible as a meister/weapon combo. On the other hand we've seen that tsundere meister and moe weapon have a really strong synchronization as moe weapon who couldn't transform at all was able to be wielded perfectly by tsundere meister on their first go. If tsundere meister hadn't been tsundere this series would have been over already

Also I have to say Japanese Maka is AWFUL compared to the English version. If she was worse in the original SE I can understand why people who watched the sub probably didn't like it as much.
 

Jintor

Member
I read a bit of SEN. It seems like there *IS* at least a bit of a plot.

Also the SE cameos are pretty decent, so there's that too.
 
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