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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time

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cajunator

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I carefully decide what I want to watch beforehand. I'm just not very discriminating.

Same with me.

Fucking Black Bullet.

They should've adapted the manga adaptation of the LN. That's just all action and character development, none of this LN crap.
Not to mention the superior as fuck art:



The anime looks like generic shit. Pretty bad.

It looks alright. Even this artwork doesnt seem too special.
 
I think it's just that this thread now features a lot of people who watch a lot more (bad - sorry folks) shows than ever before. As a whole the industry is certainly tilted in that direction, but there's certainly still plenty of good content being produced by the creative talent in Japan.

I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.

It just seems like anime is made to sell cards to kids or body pillows to men. Very few shows in between those two extremes.

A) Who cares what the anime is made to sell, if it's good? (See Jewelpet Kira Deco.)

B) There are still shows that aren't made for either thing you mention, such as Ping Pong, Mushishi, Jojo, Hozuki no Reitetsu, Silver Spoon, etc.

When you scrub through everything that comes out, I think that tends to obscure the gems in the midst of the dross.
 

Branduil

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I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.

I still think my two threads idea is a good one.
 

Gbraga

Member
For you, anime never died!

You're goddamn right!

I lost my way for a while, but Attack on Titan brought me back. The manga right now is kinda garbage, but if not for it I wouldn't have watched Non Non Biyori, so I'm really glad I decided to give it a shot.

It's not even a year since I joined GAF and I think I started posting in AnimeGAF a few days ago - well, Kill La Kill OT aside. Is that not new?

(Although I read this thread a lot. You guys are always entertaining)

Really? I guess you just feel like family >///<

CR has picked up my soon to be favorite anime of the season - GochiUsa.

Manga Time Kirara, Maaya Uchida, Ayaneru, and cuteness levels that are off the charts. Just what I was looking for.

Didn't they have like 2 more announcements 10 announcements before that?

I'm ok with this though, cute girls doing cute things show of the season?
 
Yeah, come on AnimeGAF, we gotta raise the walls!.

I for one am getting tired of all the newbies. I mean us regulars who have been here for years got to stick together ya'mean?

I mean remember when we all built that tree house when we were kids? And then we went to poke that dead body down the river?

Times sure do change, i tell you h-what.

What's that? you don't remember me? I was there, don't click my profile. Trust me.

Such bad taste.

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sonicmj1

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I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.

There are a few good shows this season, but (maybe because it's too early for me to realize how much I'll already be watching) I was considering running another backlog season. I've run through most of the <13 episode shows I want to watch, but there are still some left, like Kino's Journey, Spice and Wolf, Michiko and Hatchin, Kemonozume, and Daily Lives of High School Boys. And I'm sure I'm forgetting some too.

The idea is to watch one episode a week on the same day of every week and post impressions of each episode, to get a kind of book club thing going. It's been fun in the past, so if there's any interest we can start a new one as early as next week.
 
I'd be happy to split things into an "intelligent thread" and a "junk thread" (no offense, but really), if only that didn't seem unenforceable.

That seems incredibly elitist to me if we're just basing it off perceived quality of shows. Who gets to decide what counts as "intelligent" and "junk"? If anything, I'd say wishing for segregation like that is a bigger indication of a toxic environment than watching bad shows.
 

Link Man

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Chaika 1

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For all those bread lovers out there.

This was good, not great. Has a lot of potential, though, and as others have said, the monster design is really good.

At least it's not full of fanservice.
 

Branduil

Member
I'd be happy to split things into an "intelligent thread" and a "junk thread" (no offense, but really), if only that didn't seem unenforceable.

That's a good point, but I think there are ways to do it. Like limiting it solely to critiques of anime episodes and movies(and replies to the critiques), minimum word counts(so no one-line posts), guidelines, etc.
 

survivor

Banned
That seems incredibly elitist to me if we're just basing it off perceived quality of shows. Who gets to decide what counts as "intelligent" and "junk"? If anything, I'd say wishing for segregation like that is a bigger indication of a toxic environment than watching bad shows.
and just few pages ago this thread was patting itself on the back for not being insular

That's a good point, but I think there are ways to do it. Like limiting it solely to critiques of anime episodes and movies(and replies to the critiques), minimum word counts(so no one-line posts), guidelines, etc.

lol, this is not gonna work
 

cajunator

Banned
I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.



A) Who cares what the anime is made to sell, if it's good? (See Jewelpet Kira Deco.)

B) There are still shows that aren't made for either thing you mention, such as Ping Pong, Mushishi, Jojo, Hozuki no Reitetsu, Silver Spoon, etc.

When you scrub through everything that comes out, I think that tends to obscure the gems in the midst of the dross.

What about if a person enjoys both kinds?

CR has picked up my soon to be favorite anime of the season - GochiUsa.

Manga Time Kirara, Maaya Uchida, Ayaneru, and cuteness levels that are off the charts. Just what I was looking for.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~

That seems incredibly elitist to me if we're just basing it off perceived quality of shows. Who gets to decide what counts as "intelligent" and "junk"? If anything, I'd say wishing for segregation like that is a bigger indication of a toxic environment than watching bad shows.

I agree with this. It would just make things worse. It is a terrible idea. The tension would be ridiculous and member tiers would develop and make anime a generally toxic topic on Gaf.
Besides, my two favorite shows are decidedly in the "intelligent" show bracket.
 

Branduil

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That seems incredibly elitist to me if we're just basing it off perceived quality of shows. Who gets to decide what counts as "intelligent" and "junk"? If anything, I'd say wishing for segregation like that is a bigger indication of a toxic environment than watching bad shows.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be segregated from bad things.
 
There are a few good shows this season, but (maybe because it's too early for me to realize how much I'll already be watching) I was considering running another backlog season. I've run through most of the <13 episode shows I want to watch, but there are still some left, like Kino's Journey, Spice and Wolf, Michiko and Hatchin, Kemonozume, and Daily Lives of High School Boys. And I'm sure I'm forgetting some too.

The idea is to watch one episode a week on the same day of every week and post impressions of each episode, to get a kind of book club thing going. It's been fun in the past, so if there's any interest we can start a new one as early as next week.

I'd be up for a book club type discussion. Maybe that could be split into its own thread?

That seems incredibly elitist to me if we're just basing it off perceived quality of shows. Who gets to decide what counts as "intelligent" and "junk"? If anything, I'd say wishing for segregation like that is a bigger indication of a toxic environment than watching bad shows.

My labels of "intelligent" and "junk" were intended to refer to the quality of discussion more than to the quality of the shows themselves, though like I said I don't think that's an practically enforceable distinction.
 

Branduil

Member
I agree with this. It would just make things worse. It is a terrible idea. The tension would be ridiculous and member tiers would develop and make anime a generally toxic topic on Gaf.
Besides, my two favorite shows are decidedly in the "intelligent" show bracket.

No one would be barred from participating in the other thread. Cosmic is the only person who ever made a member tiers list anyway, LOL.
 

Narag

Member
That's a good point, but I think there are ways to do it. Like limiting it solely to critiques of anime episodes and movies(and replies to the critiques), minimum word counts(so no one-line posts), guidelines, etc.

This reminds me of the professorial NFL thread meant to avoid the memetic stuff.
 

Gbraga

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AnimeGAF is one of the few places where such extremely opposite opinions still live in harmony and everyone get along (aside from the eventual discussion that ends up in people getting banned), so it would be a shame to seggregate it. It's fun to interact with people who have different opinions, it wouldn't be as fun to just come to the thread and say that girl is cute and everyone agrees, while in the other thread someone says girl is shit and everyone agrees.
 
It's schizophrenic that the same people complaining about "bad shows" are also the same people who are writing the most about the bad shows - they even make OTs.
 
My labels of "intelligent" and "junk" were intended to refer to the quality of discussion more than to the quality of the shows themselves, though like I said I don't think that's an enforceable distinction.

Okay, that makes sense then. I misinterpreted what you said.

But yeah, a thread like that would have to be super strict and the line between limiting legitimate discussion and preventing/deleting "unintelligent" posts would be incredibly thin. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
 

sonicmj1

Member
There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be segregated from bad things.

It's nice to want things, but if you think about this thread in the context of it being one of many community threads on a small part of a gaming message board forum, you'd instantly realize how ridiculous the idea of creating two separate anime threads with separate moderation standards would be.

Be the change you wish to see in the thread. It'll make a difference.
 

Jex

Member
I feel like the atmosphere in this thread has become increasingly toxic to constructive/interesting/positive discussion and more and more filled with angst over the latest ephemeral LN adaptations or whatever. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there was once a time when the celebration of the good wasn't crowded out by the bad.

While I don't think that's entirely correct I will agree that there's been a qualitative tonal shift over time as a result of the changes to the participants within this thread and the kind of shows they watch.
 

Gbraga

Member
Is there any character that walks a thiner line between best character and absolutely unbearable than Speedwagon? I honestly can't decide if I loved or hated him in Phantom Blood.

I hope he comes back in Battle Tendency, though judging from the dates the Episode 10 preview mentioned, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
 
This is meant to be the general anime thread. I still see break-downs of episodes that aren't just "my reaction". It just depends on the quality of the show and whether it's a series or an episode review. I personally don't want to put forth the effort deconstructing a single episode vs a whole series.

Having said that, I'd personally say that OT's is where you can break down a specific show without the fear of getting off topic or discussing what you consider to be 'crap'. If you make another general anime discussion thread then we'll have to basically be switching constantly to keep up with two threads that will boil down to the same.

Nothing is stopping people from discussing topics that are worth thinking about. Just bring them forward. I've noticed more often than not than when somebody decides brings in an interesting topic for discussion, whether anime or not, that a lot of people respond.
 

cajunator

Banned
AnimeGAF is one of the few places where such extremely opposite opinions still live in harmony and everyone get along (aside from the eventual discussion that ends up in people getting banned), so it would be a shame to seggregate it. It's fun to interact with people who have different opinions, it wouldn't be as fun to just come to the thread and say that girl is cute and everyone agrees, while in the other thread someone says girl is shit and everyone agrees.

Thats what I love about it. But EVERYONE can agree that brown girls are amazing.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
A) Who cares what the anime is made to sell, if it's good? (See Jewelpet Kira Deco.)

B) There are still shows that aren't made for either thing you mention, such as Ping Pong, Mushishi, Jojo, Hozuki no Reitetsu, Silver Spoon, etc.

When you scrub through everything that comes out, I think that tends to obscure the gems in the midst of the dross.
A) With children's shows, my tolerance has all but gone. madp says that HapCha is a good show, but a second of them hocking Precure cards is enough to just put me off entirely. It just seems so much more blatant than when I was a kid anyway.

B) Oh yeah, every season there are a few shows in between. There just doesn't seem anything that's specifically up my alley with the exception of the amnesia shoujo this season. And even then, I wouldn't say that's a show that is necessarily "for me".

You're goddamn right!

I lost my way for a while, but Attack on Titan brought me back. The manga right now is kinda garbage, but if not for it I wouldn't have watched Non Non Biyori, so I'm really glad I decided to give it a shot.
How the heck do you go from one to the other? At least you got saved from the Basement.

I was just thinking about animegaf B.
AnimeGAF-R, you mean? ;)
(Or K-ON GAF... I still don't know how that happened).

While I don't think that's entirely correct I will agree that there's been a qualitative tonal shift over time as a result of the changes to the participants within this thread and the kind of shows they watch.
Well now all you talk about is blinks and carries though!

But what is "good" and "bad" varies from person to person. It just sounds like an elitist attitude.
Hyouka-GAF and Angel Beats-GAF.
 

Jex

Member
I'd be happy to split things into an "intelligent thread" and a "junk thread" (no offense, but really), if only that didn't seem unenforceable.
Okay, that makes sense then. I misinterpreted what you said.

But yeah, a thread like that would have to be super strict and the line between limiting legitimate discussion and preventing/deleting "unintelligent" posts would be incredibly thin. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
It's funny that you bring that up because I was just reading the "Television Without Pity" moderation rules and you'd basically need that level of Nazi Moderation to keep things under control. I don't mean to imply that strict moderation is bad, just that you need Moderators who are happy to do all that work!

Example of said rules:

I love typing in all lowercase or all uppercase, ignoring proper grammar and punctuation, and writing my messages like I'm text-messaging on a cell phone with an eight-year-old. That's cool, right? I mean, who cares? This is the internet!

Well, we care...but the sad truth is that other posters might skip over your posts if they're too hard to read. Things like proper spacing, capitalization, and punctuation make your posts much easier on the eye, and they make you look like quite the Captain Smartypants, too.

Look, we're not grading you. You won't get banned for misspelling "definitely" or anything. Just try your best to write neat, coherent posts. Don't type "2" for "to," or "U" for "you," or "l8r" or "LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!" or any of that nonsense. Throw in a carriage return now and then to break up the text, and please use proper capitalization. Your computer comes with two shift keys. Use 'em.

Can I feel free to treat forum threads like chat rooms during episodes?

No. Real-time posts during episodes don't make sense to most other users, either during the show or a couple of days later. Everyone has to read 15 pages or days of content, so don't make people wade through a bunch of chat that's irrelevant.

Yes, that means Other TV Talk threads too. Wait until the entire ep has aired; then discuss. Using threads as chat rooms will get you banned.

I can't possibly read all these messages; I'd just like to post my own thoughts.

Oh, is that so? Well, that's rather rude of you. If you have time to post, you have time to read what others have posted before you.

Before you post, you are expected to read -- and not rehash -- the content in a thread from either the last 15 pages or the last 15 days, whichever makes the most sense. If a moderator mentions the "15/15" rule, this is what they're talking about.

Confused? Okay: Let's say you're in the Scandal episode thread; if the episode aired the night before, the thread will not go back 15 days, so you must read at minimum the last 15 pages. On the Amazing Race forums, some of those threads go back for years; in that case, you read the last 15 days' worth of posts to bring you up to date.

The idea here, basically, is for you to have read enough of the thread to give you a solid feel for what people have already said, so that you don't repeat things people have mentioned twenty times already or derail the discussion by interrupting with a random question. It's a conversational-manners issue.

We know it's a lot to read on some forums. Tough beans. Show your fellow posters the courtesy which you expect, and read what they've written to make sure you aren't repeating what dozens of other people have already said.

Again: 15 pages or 15 days, whichever applies. Please use common sense, and please do not argue the letter of the law with the mods when it is the spirit that counts. Be a good listener.

And if you don't read the other posts before adding your own, for the love of Mike, don't say so. It's obnoxious, the mods hate it, and it'll earn you a boot.

Isn't posting messages like "Me too!" just awesome?


No, not really. We're all here for some quality discussion about TV, so unless you can back up that "me too" with something of substance, don't bother posting it.

I missed an episode of a show I like, can I post asking for a copy?

No, sorry, we do not allow requests to make or share copied programs on the site.
It's nice to want things, but if you think about this thread in the context of it being one of many community threads on a small part of a gaming message board forum, you'd instantly realize how ridiculous the idea of creating two separate anime threads with separate moderation standards would be.

Be the change you wish to see in the thread. It'll make a difference.

Practically speaking though, this is how it has to be. The only way to do anything different is to literally create and run an entirely separate forum, which isn't really a simple undertaking!
 
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