Driveclub director - 1080p/30FPS is absolutely the best for our game

Ok, that seems a bit unfair to say. The ps4 is perfectly capable of 60 fps, but it ultimately was not a priority for Evolution.

It's not ok to write off a system for one game not being 60 fps.

Well Driveclub was the only announced PS4 game that interests me, but now that I know it's only 30 fps I have no desire to play it, and hence, no reason to pick up a PS4.
 
I'm honestly completely ok with this. Yeah 60fps is definitely a nice perk to games, but I don't lose my shit if a game doesn't have it. As long as the performance is good and is steady, they have my support. Looking forward to trying this game on with PS+. :)
 
Oh oh 30 fps! It's the end of the world! What the hell I am gonna do with my life!!...

What about stop crying and admit you can enjoy the game at 30 fps?
Because buying a game or not depending on its frame rate is really childish.

You are overreacting. People, open your minds, why do you need it closed? That only brings up bad choices.

Plus, everyone here anti-30 fps knows that they will drop their jaws when seeing the game on their TVs, they are gonna want to play it, and they are gonna enjoy it.
Admit it. Be honest with yourselves.
 
On upgrade of PS+ Edition to full game.

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The Blu-Ray offers the best value?

That makes me wonder if the upgrades come in the form of microtransactions leading up to a higher pricetag for the full game if you go that way.
 
I'm imagining playing F-Zero GX at 30 FPS and ewwww...

Things in fzero gz happens really fast when compared to games that use real world cars. Wipeout is another example of this. 2048 on Vita suffers a lot in my opinion for being 30 fps.

But we're not talking real life cars speeds here.
 
Some of the comments in here are just baffling! If 60fps with bells and whistles is all you care about buy a fucking PC!

Jesus.
 
The Blu-Ray offers the best value?

That makes me wonder if the upgrades come in the form of microtransactions leading up to a higher pricetag for the full game if you go that way.
That wouldn't make much sense, because you could just buy the full game on the store and delete the + version.
 
They also gain a lot because of it. Remember everyone drooling over those PGR shots last gen (hell, people still do), or that Motostorm gif in the hurricane? Remember that open world Forza game that was widely praised and is actually preferred over the sim version by some people? I love 60fps racers as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to pretend that new hardware miraculously gives developers some unlimited overhead in what they want to achieve in their game and I'm not going to pretend that 60fps is the only target that developers should strive for.

They gain a lot of visual hotness, agreed. Once you've played a track more than ten times, the gain isn't so important...not like it was in a trailer or screenshot, anyway...and you're left with a ceiling to your ability which can come from the lack of visual feedback for corners and overtaking others in the field. For a game that is about competitive lap and race times using realistic driving models, the drop in framerate will always be felt when you play another game which doesn't budge from its principle of maximum player control and information to inform that control. I loved Horizon more than vanilla Forza because it was more arcadey, not because it was 30fps...something I tolerated because I had no options otherwise. (If Horizon 2 is actually a thing, I hope they choose to go 60fps because there's a reason why the best racing games still insist upon it.)
 
Well, it might loose them a couple of gaffers, but all the other people will just see a damn fine looking game.
Personally, i can deal with a good 30fps but i prefer 60.
 
Oh oh 30 fps! It's the end of the world! What the hell I am gonna do with my life!!...

What about stop crying and admit you can enjoy the game at 30 fps?
Because buying a game or not depending on its frame rate is really childish.

You are overreacting. People, open your minds, why do you need it closed? That only brings up bad choices.

Plus, everyone here anti-30 fps knows that they will drop their jaws when seeing the game on their TVs, they are gonna want to play it, and they are gonna enjoy it.
Admit it. Be honest with yourselves.

I think I'll have to suffer with Project CARS on PC at 4k @ 120FPS. DriveClub luckily isn't the only racing game coming out. Plenty to choose from.
 
Good point.

I have played Criterion's burnout series on the PS2 which was 60fps and their NFS games on PS3 which was 30 fps, their NFS games were just as much as enjoyable as their Burnout games regardless of the frame rate debate. Even at 30fps, the sense of speed that Criterion pulled off on NFS:HP 2010 and NFS:MW 2012 was just crazy good.
 
That wouldn't make much sense, because you could just buy the full game on the store and delete the + version.

Well, yes, but neither does the statement that the blu-ray purchase is the best value. Unless they're banking on people upgrading gradually over time.
 
On upgrade of PS+ Edition to full game.

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i have to ask. if upgrading from the PS+ free version will cost something like 40$ " assuming that of course because i remember reading the upgrade will be a minimal amount or something like that. i can't remember the exact words they said.

based on that why would someone pay a 60$ for the game at retail when he can get it day one from the online store for a little bit less like 40$ or even 50$ ?
 
Well, it might loose them a couple of gaffers, but all the other people will just see a damn fine looking game.
Personally, i can deal with a good 30fps but i prefer 60.

This is pretty much always my stance on 30 versus 60. I will never complain about 60fps but I'm fine with 30, as long as it's steady.

i have to ask. if upgrading from the PS+ free version will cost something like 40$ " assuming that of course because i remember saying the upgrade will be a minimal amount or something like that. i can't remember the exact words they said.

based on that why would someone pay a 60$ for the game at retail when he can get it day one from the online store for a little bit less like 40$ or even 50$ ?
It may be their strategy to get more people to buy the game digitally at a discounted price without pissing off retailers. All the money from an upgrade goes directly to Sony since it's their game.
 
Yeah or Wipeout. If they announced a 30fps Wipeout I would be pretty upset. This game isn't even close to the speed if Wipeout of F-Zero

Wipeout is atrocious on Vita because of this.

Thankfully most racing games don't require the pinpoint precision that Wipeout and F-Zero do.
 
I think you just confirmed what he said.
No, I didn't.

I even bought a full race setup to squeeze every tenth of a second out ouf the tracks and 60fps (and 300 for the physics?) supported this way of playing obviously.

Horizon on the other hand is a complete different game. It's more about seconds than milliseconds, it's about the feeling of a race. And, at least for me, prettier graphics are supporting the feeling more than a higher framerate does.

I don't say that 60fps don't make a better game, but prettier graphics do the same and if I have the choice I would always choose the latter for fun, action-orientated arcade racers.
 
it's a sony first party exclusive in 2014, of course it's going to sacrifice gameplay for cinematic flair.
 
PG4 is one is the most fun racers of all time it's actually probably my favorite. I could have a spotty memory but I could have swore when that game came out we were all loving it and no one I can remember was having a panic attack over the FPS.

Yeah, I remember near universal praise for the game.

And why not? Just look at this magnificent creation.

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Look at that amazing motion blur and dat rain.

Bizarre were gods man. GODS!
 
It looks like it'll certainly be a very good "eye-candy" type game. I'm not really into racers, so I'm afraid I don't quite get the whole 30 FPS vs 60 FPS stuff on how both frame rate types feel in a racer.
 
Lol, more and more reasons to stay away from next-gen consoles. The irony - I would've bought it even if the visuals are "downgraded". This, coming from a gamer who prefers playing on PC instead. The only reason to get consoles at this point are the exclusives; and when developers are harping about da-graphics as a justifying precedent over gameplay, then I can no longer trust his stance on the "experience".

Personally, I wouldn't mind 30FPS, but at his point I'm standing on my argument based on principle. The PS4 to me is getting far less attractive with meager, generic offerings like this and if this game flops, I'd be laughing to hell because apparently, Da-visuals (that comes with the clearly dat AAA budget) couldn't save this game. I'd expect your typical white knights out of the woodwork blaming the rest for not supporting the industry

And you're in this thread why?...

Trolling is a bannable offense.
 
Seems like it. A part of the game will be free. Probably a large part.

Which suggests to me that the PS+ version is fundamentally going for a free-to-play model, but with a key distinction that there is also independently a full-release copy, the purchase of which costs less than the microtransactions to upgrade the PS+ edition.
 
Am I the only one that isn't all that bothered by this? GRID was one of my favourite racers last gen and it was 30fps. As long is the game is good and fun to play I'll try it.
 
apologies. PGR2 and 4 > PGR1 by a mile, and half the framerate. OH NOES!
How fantastic for you. I'm not belittling others for their preference of visuals over control or lacking of more discriminating taste in control, but yours and others' dismissive comments come off as assholishly defensive. Yes, other than control feel and response, PGR 2, 3, and 4 all beat PGR 1 for content and refinement...but they could have done the same if they had stuck to 60fps, as well.
 
If anyone thought they would be 1080p/60fps with global illumination was delusional. They made the trade off. They are sacrifice one thing for the other. They must of felt that the lighting system was more important than hitting 60fps in addition to putting more detail into the cars.

We are talking a $399.99 box and yeah, you are not going to get it all folks. The fact that it is 1080p/30fps and GI is a great thing and I cannot wait to play the game. The one thing that would kill it is if it is not locked 30fps [edit] just read above it is locked 30fps! Thank the heavens!. This is also a more "arcade" type racer vs. a sim, so like Forza Horizon, 30fps would be fine.

This game was one of the main reasons I wanted a PS4 and I was crushed when they delayed it, but by the looks of it, they have used that time wisely and as long as we get a big selection of tracks/environments I will be one happy racing fan. With rumors of Forza Horizon 2 at the end of the year, it is going to be a great time to be a racing fan later this year.
 
I have no problem with them doing what they are doing. I love 60 frames as much as someone else, but I'm not going to shit on the game and pass on it because it isn't running at 60 frames. I'd be missing out on a large number of great fucking games if that was the case. They can do what they want as long as it runs stable at 30 and is locked and responsive. I've never had any issue playing a racer at 30 so this is not a big deal.

Man, a lot of the responses in this thread just make me shake my head. If this is what this entire generation is going to be about now... ugh.
 
Yeah I can't even play Wipeout on Vita it really highlights how necessary the high FPS is.

2048 is not a bad game but in higher classes i feel you miss a lot from it being 30fps, i've always felt that the game takes too much time to react to driver imputs.
 
How fantastic for you. I'm not belittling others for their preference of visuals over control or lacking of more discriminating taste in control, but yours and others' dismissive comments come off as assholishly defensive. Yes, other than control feel and response, PGR 2, 3, and 4 all beat PGR 1 for content and refinement...but they could have done the same if they had stuck to 60fps, as well.

I'm not trying to come off as assholish to be honest. Guess I like to jump into gaf being gaf and be on the other side sometimes.
 
As long as the game has wheel support. The only racing games I can stand with a controller are Mario Kart type kart racers. I still haven't picked up an Xbox one and forza because they basically said fuck people who want to use a wheel, game plays terrible with a pad and no assists. Can't stand it.
 
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