The Amazing Spider-Man 2 |SPOILER THREAD| Enter Marc’s Webb

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I don't understand what's with all the nitpicking here. It's a super hero movie. Spidey has been in far worse stories than this in the actual comic arcs. .

What I really liked about the movie was just how he moved. He did his classic poses while web slinging, he seemed a little more 'spider-like' during fights, specifically in small enclosures. Or how he stopped that cop car from squishing the cop. or stopping the bus from rolling over and killing people. he was very much like the comic book character brought to life, far, far more than its previous film incarnations.

There's a lot of details I was extremely happy to finally see on screen. If anything, this movie has felt the closest to the source material with the exception of the airplane scene and aunt May in the hospital scene.

You're supposed to go into these movies with a suspension of belief. Just enjoy the movie for what it is and let the kid in you sit there with his mouth open because god damnit, comic book spider-man has finally, truly been brought to life.
 
Just got back from the movie, and honestly despite all the hate I liked it. Definitely better than the first movie.
 
Just got back from the movie, and honestly despite all the hate I liked it. Definitely better than the first movie.

Agree. This movie was watchable without you saying "Really?"

Looking back, there were some shitty moments that parallel the crane sequence but Gwen Stacy is the what makes this movie so awesome. It was enjoyable but it wasn't the next big superhero sequel that we all hoped it to be. Trailers revealed everything to the masses though. All was spoiled so easily.
 
Agree. This movie was watchable without you saying "Really?"

Looking back, there were some shitty moments that parallel the crane sequence but Gwen Stacy is the what makes this movie so awesome. It was enjoyable but it wasn't the next big superhero sequel that we all hoped it to be. Trailers revealed everything to the masses though. All was spoiled so easily.



Trailer of the first movie was even worse, even revealed the part thats after the credit. I mean common guys seriously.
 
Trailer of the first movie was even worse, even revealed the part thats after the credit. I mean common guys seriously.

Yeah, within the first 10 minutes of awesome opening, I had practically seen all the big sequences and was just waiting for "that trailer moment". Surprised the trailer spoiled the entire ending as I was hoping that to be somewhere halfway through the movie.

The city feels very small. It doesn't feel as vast as it does in other movies (e.g. The Dark Knight) even though they showed so many awesome locations of NYC (for a mere few seconds). Everything else looked like it was shot in one intersection.

With that said, it was a great Gwen Stacy movie, and her final sequences were beautifully done.
 
Yeah, within the first 10 minutes of awesome opening, I had practically seen all the big sequences and was just waiting for "that trailer moment". Surprised the trailer spoiled the entire ending as I was hoping that to be somewhere halfway through the movie.

The city feels very small. It doesn't feel as vast as it does in other movies (e.g. The Dark Knight) even though they showed so many awesome locations of NYC (for a mere few seconds). Everything else looked like it was shot in one intersection.

It's weird, too, because they shot the whole movie in NYC alone.
 
It's an annoying gimmick.

Weird to me that this bothers people, but there's a simple solution. Copy and paste the text into Notepad to strip formatting and images, then paste it into Word, select all, and hit Shift+F3 twice to switch it to sentence case.
 
Weird to me that this bothers people, but there's a simple solution. Copy and paste the text into Notepad to strip formatting and images, then paste it into Word, select all, and hit Shift+F3 twice to switch it to sentence case.

Half of us right now are in bed staring at our phone looking for Shift+F3 key; all I see is the reflection of my face.

:(
 
Kind of weird how at my theater (Marcus Theaters) right before the movie they showed a Marcus ad which shows the final scene of the movie.
 
I wonder how much the reception will hurt the following movie box office wise. If Sony plan to keep making Spidey movies, I think they should go the Bond route and hope for the best. Unless of course another reboot works. They could also stop making them so damn expensive.
 
WHY DO WE WASTE THE INCREDIBLE TALENTS OF EMMA STONE AND ANDREW GARFIELD AND NOT WRITE ACTUAL SCENES FOR THEM?

This is honestly, the biggest offense in these movies for me. I really like Garfield and Stone as actors on their own.

When they announced him as Spider-Man I wasn't upset, I like the dude, but FUCK, like the rest of the cast in the film, they're all wasted.
 
Just got back. Yo that script was a fucking mess and a half but I adored this movie.

  • That score is bonkers. Who said prominent woodwinds under big battles was a good plan? Someone cool.
  • That innermonologue song thing during the Times Square showdown was bizarre but creative.
  • Motherfucking Secret Ghosttrain Laboratory got me giggling.
  • Loved the colors.
  • Dane Dehan(?) is my boy.
  • Has Chris Cooper ever not played The World's Most Disappointing Dad holy hell I was losing it through that whole bedside scene.
  • Stone and Garfield are both cute and had good chemistry.

I went in expecting it to be atrocious but am surprisingly high on it now.

I just wish an adult had gotten a crack at that script. How many times did they talk about "power"? That's not a thing. That's not even a considered metaphor for a thing.

Gotta love that computer UI too. That employee directory lookup on an exact name, instead of just returning instantly, pops up like twelve panes and spins through face for Many Seconds? C'mon, bros.
 
Just saw it yesterday, I liked this movie.

Unlike some of the Marvel Cinematic universe movies, this felt like an actual super hero
movie.

ALso that ending scene with gwen dying was beautiful/tragic at the same time o_o

my only complaint was that Harry smiles too much, Peter is too nerdy, and the goblin should of had a more bigger screen. Also lol i completely forgot about Rhino was even in this movie by the end.
 
Just saw it yesterday, I liked this movie.

Unlike some of the Marvel Cinematic universe movies, this felt like an actual super hero
movie.

ALso that ending scene with gwen dying was beautiful/tragic at the same time o_o


Cap 2 felt like more of a political thriller than a super hero movie and Gwen's death made the movie for me. Such an amazing/ sad scene.
 
Weird to me that this bothers people, but there's a simple solution. Copy and paste the text into Notepad to strip formatting and images, then paste it into Word, select all, and hit Shift+F3 twice to switch it to sentence case.

That's the least simple "simple solution" I've ever read.
 
That's another thing I wanted to touch on, too.

I heard a lot of critics didn't like the slo-mo in the movie. But after seeing it twice, I really don't see the problem. It's not like a Snyder film where it's there every twenty seconds, every time it was used it was used well, I thought. I liked it.

And there were a few instances in ASM1 if I remember correctly, like at the final swing.

The creative use of slo mo him saving those people in Times Square was well done. Shows how fast the guy is saving 3 people pretty much at once from being electrocuted by trying run away.

The fight scene at end was alright also seem Webb knows how use it better.

I think best use is when electro is on face of oscorp building spidey swings up and scene slows down when he shoots past roof of that apartment block. The scale of building works great then the mad swinging he does after is awesome
 
I wonder how much the reception will hurt the following movie box office wise. If Sony plan to keep making Spidey movies, I think they should go the Bond route and hope for the best. Unless of course another reboot works. They could also stop making them so damn expensive.

I think the reception's gonna keep this thing from having the legs movies like Captain America do, or other successful superhero movies. Or even just successful movies.

Official prediction: over a 50% drop from opening weekend to second weekend
 
He does mention The Dark Knight in there and in the comment section.

WHY DOES EVERYONE READ THAT PROBLEM AS "TOO MANY VILLAINS" WHEN THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?

WHY DO WRITERS CONTINUALLY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT SCREENTIME ISN'T ABOUT POSITIONING THE LOGISTICS OF WHY PEOPLE DO WHATEVER, BUT ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS AND THE MEANING OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS? THE REASON THE DARK KNIGHT IS GREAT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS TWO VILLAINS IS BECAUSE BATMAN AND THE JOKER'S BATTLE (WHICH IS NOT JUST PHYSICAL, BUT A SUPER CLEAR REPRESENTATION OF ORDER VS. ANARCHY EXPRESSED IN EVERY DRAMATIC WAY POSSIBLE COMPLETE WITH CHOICES) IS LITERALLY A BATTLE OVER THE FATE OF HARVEY DENT. ALL THEIR STORIES HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER. THERE IS NO ACTION THAT IS OUTSIDE THE POINT AND THE THEME. WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT MAKES IT A LASTING MASTERPIECE... SO WHY HAS NOBODY TAKEN CUES FROM THAT TACT? WHY DO WE KEEP SETTLING FOR AWKWARD PLOT-BASED TEAM UPS?


Awkward plot-based team-ups like in Spider-Man 3 where Venom has to approach Sandman near the end, "Hey I know our stories aren't even tangibly related to each other, but we both hate Spider-Man or something, you ready to team up for the big finale?" "Uh sure thing, weird black alien thing I've just met", or ASM2 Electro who seems to be in entirely different movie/narrative than everything else.

The movie did a good job of explaining how and why Harry would team up with Electro.
 
I saw this earlier and really enjoyed it. The villains were the weakest in terms of drama and story but the Electro sequences were good. The heart of the movie was Peter and Gwen's relationship. The actors really made it work and it was fun to watch. The Spiderman swinging stuff was top notch too. I couldn't care less about Ozcorp and Peter's parents. Overall there was enough fun stuff and good drama to make the movie work for me.
 
It's interesting how strong the consensus is in this thread that the movie and the rest of the people working on it deserved a better script.

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The movie did a good job of explaining how and why Harry would team up with Electro.
I think the point was that there's not much linking them thematically. Electro needs someone to bust him out of his cell, Harry needs a heavy to bust him into Oscorp. You could replace either one of them and it wouldn't change the story.

I actually just had a thought. They could've had Harry and Max know each before he got shipped off to boarding school. Harry ends up spending a lot of time bored in the Oscorp building while being neglected as a kid and finds company with the nerdy tech with no friends. That gives Harry a sort-of father figure that gives a shit about him and Max someone who needs him which Harry's real father promptly takes from both of them. It strengthens their reasons to help each other, hate Osborne/Oscorp and it also piles one more thing for Harry to kill Gwen over.
 
Anyone else think it would get super annoying working at Oscorp always having the computer explain what you did in your office?

"welcome to Oscorps state of the art cubicle for meaningless data entry"
"welcome to Oscorps state of the art restrooms, where you pee"
"welcome to Oscorps janitors closet, see our wonderful mops"
 
So I enjoyed this movie, but like most people I felt a lot of fat could have been trimmed.

That being said, it's a little frustrating that for a movie that get's so much right about Spider-Man himself that it drops the ball on what makes Peter Parker appealing.

What I mean is that it lacks the old "Parker luck".

I watched Spider-Man 2 yesterday, and I know there are Spidey fans who feel it's not a good representation and in some ways it isnt (no wise cracking for example) but it absolutley NAILS the hardluck nature of Peters life fantastically. Just in the first 10-20 minutes we get:

1.He has a shitty job and His boss think's he's not dependable...which he proves to be true and thus loses the job.
2.He's failing college
3.He can't pay rent
4.he got paid for some pictures of Spidey but it doesnt cover the advance Betty gave him.
5.Everyone thinks he's a flakey loser

The majority of these things are because he's Spider-Man, Peter's personal life is supposed to suck because he feels he can't not be Spider-Man and that's probably the number 1 thing I love about the character and this new series doesn't do any of that.

Yeah his lady died, and he's guilty about breaking a promise but overall I don't feel this Peter's life is particularly hard like Raimi's Peter was.

And it sucks because they nail a lot of the Spider-Man stuff that the other series didnt, like the way he moves and fights, his wise cracking , etc etc.

Anyone else feel the same?
 
I saw this earlier and really enjoyed it. The villains were the weakest in terms of drama and story but the Electro sequences were good. The heart of the movie was Peter and Gwen's relationship. The actors really made it work and it was fun to watch. The Spiderman swinging stuff was top notch too. I couldn't care less about Ozcorp and Peter's parents. Overall there was enough fun stuff and good drama to make the movie work for me.

It's amazing to me that people like the Gwen Parker drama scenes. The two had good chemistry sure and were good in their roles, but the scenes between them were just constant flip flopping over whether they should and shouldn't be together that I just got tired of seeing the scenes. It was the same drama shown in the final scenes of amazing Spider-Man 1 just drawn out in the same fashion for multiple scenes with no new information
 
In my opinion, Gwen found out that he was Spider-man way too soon. Do they love each other? Think about this for a second. There first kinda date thing was at Gwen Stacy's house in which he meets her parents. Also when she finds out he's spider-man.

They flirt at each other and care for each other but theres no real chemistry. Every conversation that they've had since she found out he was spider-man has been about him being spider-man. In the Raimi movies Mary Jane loves Peter way before she finds out he's Spider-man.

The writers wanted this conflict of Gwen knowing Peter was Spider-man. In the comics Gwen died never knowing Peter was Spider-man. The guilt and emotional conflict was only Peters to have. There was no cop out like the movie. "Gwen knew the risks involved , its both our faults" bullshit.
 
Finally saw the movie yesterday and I must say it was much better than amazing spiderman 1 but that's not saying much.

The good:

Gwen Stacy and peter romance

Spidy wisecracking

Dane DeHaan as Harry Osborn.

Electro & Harry scenes. Only time Electro was awesome and scary

Gwen's death

The bad:

Electro and goblin's whole plot and creation. How did Harry go from showing up from boarding school to near death. He is no where near his father'a age

Rhino before and after

The whole Parker parents spider DNA crap. It would have been better if the crap peter's dad was working on was venom.

Cliche German scientist/doctor. Really why is this man in this movie

Funny awesome stuff

The my fair lady quip. That had the theater laughing.
 
Saw it on Monday.

Freaking awful. Outside of Peter/ Gwen and Spidey the whole movie was terrible. All the villains were shit. I mean, I kind of liked Dehaan since fit my image of Harry but once he goes off they deep end the writing for him gets supremely cringeworthy(and don't even get me started on the "die more" line)

The music and pacing were completely off and the stuff with Peter's dad dragged everything down and was more ridiculous than it had any reason to be. The writing was super lazy with its reliance on google and pretty much everything in regards to Harry's turn. Gwen needed to be there for the final showdown was contrived and just nonsensical.

I loved the first ASM despite its issues but this was just a total train wreck.
 
Yes, it's his fault in that she gets targeted to get to him. But that's the point here, as I saw it- they never had a choice. Dating, not dating - the choice was an illusion. The instant Peter mentions his on-again, off-again girlfriend to Harry, she's doomed.

What? If she wasn't there at the power plant Harry would not have even figured out that Spidey is Peter. Remember, that scene with Harry talking about how Oscorp was following Peter was cut from the film. Using what the movie showed us, Harry had no idea it was Peter.
 
Apparently Flash Thompson was in a deleted scene, I am guessing relating to the graduation. Wonder if he goes off to the army? He wanted to become Venom like in the comics, but of course he does. I doubt the spinoff would focus on him, but it is something they could do years down the line.
 
also it's funny that Peter completely forgot about the guy that shot his uncle, he's solved the mystery of his died parents easier with no clues, then finding the guy he saw shoot his uncle.
Maybe he needs some more pictures and string to solve this puzzle.
 
also it's funny that Peter completely forgot about the guy that shot his uncle, he's solved the mystery of his died parents easier with no clues, then finding the guy he saw shoot his uncle.
Maybe he needs some more pictures and string to solve this puzzle.

It's like he was hit by amnesia. Maybe in the third one he'll be like "oh yeah, that happened".
 
also it's funny that Peter completely forgot about the guy that shot his uncle, he's solved the mystery of his died parents easier with no clues, then finding the guy he saw shoot his uncle.
Maybe he needs some more pictures and string to solve this puzzle.

I think he just moved on as far as Ben is concerned. The mystery alone concerning Oscorp's relationship with his parents considering what they're up to is something worth looking in to IMO.
 
also it's funny that Peter completely forgot about the guy that shot his uncle, he's solved the mystery of his died parents easier with no clues, then finding the guy he saw shoot his uncle.
Maybe he needs some more pictures and string to solve this puzzle.

Well if he can't find him, he can't find him. iirc, the comic went 200 issues before ever bringing him back again.
 
They de-emphasized Uncle Ben(cuz Peter failed him) and put the focus on his parents(cuz they failed Peter). Once again, we can't have anything be Peter's fault.
 
In the first ASM he began being Spider-Man specifically because he was only targeting guys that looked like his Uncle's killer. It was odd when the first movie didn't resolve it and it's odd now that the second movie doesn't even touch on it lol
 
In the first ASM he began being Spider-Man specifically because he was only targeting guys that looked like his Uncle's killer. It was odd when the first movie didn't resolve it and it's odd now that the second movie doesn't even touch on it lol

Right he was jumping people because he was pissed and upset. IDK if they really need to go out of their way to show that he's moved on from this.
 
It was so weird in ASM. He was looking for the killer, then they cut to something else and it's completely forgotten. It's not like they showed him moving on or anything, they just gave up.
 
He didn't even have to find him, just realize that he's dead because of his own selfish behavior and learn from it. Which is a pretty big fuckin' thing to gloss over. He just goes about his life, building webs and making out with his awesome girlfriend who accepts him as Spidey immediately.
 
He didn't even have to find him, just realize that he's dead because of his own selfish behavior and learn from it. Which is a pretty big fuckin' thing to gloss over. He just goes about his life, building webs and making out with his awesome girlfriend who accepts him as Spidey immediately.

That's the life.
 
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