Dark Octave
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You know how many dudes have girly looking avatars of their favorite anime characters or whatever around here.
This could change our relationship ishibear. M'lady. *tips fedora*
But no not really.
Whoopi Goldberg under fire for saying men have the right to fight back
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This could change our relationship ishibear. M'lady. *tips fedora*
But no not really.
They'll call you a white knight and go on bragging about how badass they are because they are willing to throw down on a woman.
Yeah I know. I was mostly teasing. :3
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My ava is more fabulous tho haha, I kid, I kid.
Muppet of a Man
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This is true to a large extent and restraint should be used when defending yourself against a much weaker party. But it's not that cut and dry. What happens when the woman is wielding a makeshift weapon (or an actual weapon)?
The criteria for defense with force should be the likelihood of injury...not any other consideration.
Zen_Arcade
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They aren't bragging. They're voicing an opinion.
Depends what the situation is and what the women is doing. There shouldn't be a need to hit a women or a guy most of the time. Defence or walking away should suffice.
http://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38
Sean Connery got a lot of flak for his opinion years ago on the subject.
http://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38
Sean Connery got a lot of flak for his opinion years ago on the subject.
Alligatorjandro
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I don't think a woman should hit a men.
stufte
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FTFY. Don't pretend like we are all just talking about beating up women carte blanche. It's disingenuous to the conversation at hand.
And no one is bragging. Stating that you'd hit back isn't bragging. ffs
What kind of bullshit is that? Stronger people have no right to defend themselves? I don't think any country in the world has a law like that.
Or is the reporter just sexist and saying only women have the right to beat people?
King Cobra
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Some would say it's another name for push overs.
Thank you. What is with this assumption that the retaliation would be on level 10?
GAF is better at hitting women than asking them out.
This common sense only applies in the context of the same genders.
No. It's a reality check. Most people even in this thread are saying you should have restraint even when fighting women. That's because as a society we have trained ourselves not to hit women. That's why it is common sense and it influences greatly how we respond to this situation so differently from men fighting with men, such that we don't even need to discuss if a guy has the right to fight back.
Amentallica
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Threads like this usually involve dudes talking about just exactly what they'd do in a situation where they were faced with a violent woman, in some detail, and using feminism/equality as justification for potentially going overboard. I was anticipating that.
Of course, we all have a right to defend ourselves against undue attack.
Goddamn.
sonikokaruto
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Was about to say that there was a lot of fedora tipping in this thread.
Get out of your internet bubble, go to a club, watch how any guy responds to a dumb anyone. Male or female, it gonna get got.
block tower
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anyone picking violent fights better be prepared for the consequences. seen people get hit over less.
anyone from the city, especially Chiraq knows this isn't new news. people will test you, better be ready to pass/fail that test lol.
anyone from the city, especially Chiraq knows this isn't new news. people will test you, better be ready to pass/fail that test lol.
Katzenjammer
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This is very poorly worded. If a woman hits a man, the man has the right to defend himself, it has nothing to do with gender. It does not necessarily have to be through violence though. Let's try keeping it civilized, people.
Zen_Arcade
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That's not bragging. That's a statement.
Either way, you cherry picked one post out of like five pages where most people have been very reasonable about the subject.
Karsticles
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What is this supposed to be an analogy for?
ChubbyHuggs
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I'm a man, baby!
I just meant from one man to another, I would be dumbfounded if I just got open handed slapped.
http://youtu.be/70xGy44ZV90?t=13s
Zen_Arcade
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The idea that two people have to be on equal ground in a fighting situation before one side has the right to defend themselves.
If I have a gun in my back pocket and some guy comes at me with a knife, I'm not going to hesitate to pull out a gun on a guy running at me with a knife just because my weapon could be more effective then his.
OldKingDoran
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Its okay to retaliate if you are being attacked.
Yep.
Famous black guy on blast for domestic violence? End of any of the endorsements, sponsors, deals, music he might have wanted to go forward with in the future.
He handled it the right way.
striferser
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I though that act is equal to saying "is that all you got?"
/jk
Whoopi's right. No matter what gender you or your attacker, you have the right to defend yourself. If hitting the other party is the only way you can defend yourself, do it.
[QUOTparents Matt_;112595662]Of course you have the right to fight back.
Obviously you also have the responsibility of reading the situation and using an acceptable level of force in retaliation.
Jay Z handled the situation excellently but I wouldn't have been in uproar and labeling him a woman beater if he had put Solange on her ass. Obviously if the tables turned and he started going in on her hard it would have been a bit different, but just because someone is smaller than you of a different gender you don't loose the right to protect your own safety.[/QUOTE]
Well said. I don't think I could hit a woman, my folks were very old fashioned about that. But if I'm getting my ass kicked and can't escape, I gotta do something. Within reason.
Obviously you also have the responsibility of reading the situation and using an acceptable level of force in retaliation.
Jay Z handled the situation excellently but I wouldn't have been in uproar and labeling him a woman beater if he had put Solange on her ass. Obviously if the tables turned and he started going in on her hard it would have been a bit different, but just because someone is smaller than you of a different gender you don't loose the right to protect your own safety.[/QUOTE]
Well said. I don't think I could hit a woman, my folks were very old fashioned about that. But if I'm getting my ass kicked and can't escape, I gotta do something. Within reason.
So you would do the same to a man that was physically assaulting you?
Why are so many arguments against self defense the notion that we're all going to try and use significant force against an attacking woman? I see far too many posts saying "OK BUT..." followed by remember to stop being a neanderthal. It's as if people need to get in that last jab as if we're all going to be morally reprehensible, like they're bitter on conceding any ground on this issue in the first place.
Exactly. I'm sorry but if someone starts beating me up, I should have the right to defend myself. And no, defending myself doesn't involve curb-stomping them like so many people feel the need to inform me.
I learned about a lot of stuff in high school law class, and using the right amount of force is one of them.
If a normal adult woman is going all out, wailing and punching, you can punch her back in self defense with no repercussions. If a woman is going all out and you run away to get a baseball bat and she chases after you, attacking her brutally with the bat wouldn't be justified.
Essentially defend yourself and know when you have an advantage. Male vs. female is usually one sided. Adults vs. elderly people is usually one sided. Control the situation with the advantages you have responsibly.
If a normal adult woman is going all out, wailing and punching, you can punch her back in self defense with no repercussions. If a woman is going all out and you run away to get a baseball bat and she chases after you, attacking her brutally with the bat wouldn't be justified.
Essentially defend yourself and know when you have an advantage. Male vs. female is usually one sided. Adults vs. elderly people is usually one sided. Control the situation with the advantages you have responsibly.
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It's less of a woman thing and more of this. am i going to beat up a 9 year old boy just because it's a boy and that's "fair" as far as genders go? Naw. But if my life is in danger and there's no other option then, yeah, anything goes.
Jay Z wasn't even close to being in danger with a body guard there and his wife being there and his sister-in-law acting out. If he did something in that situation he'd be a pretty shitty person.
Nope. Don't try to pretend a woman and a man are of equal physical strength. Saying equality doesn't make it right. It's not that black and white.
BadAss2961
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Celie knows a lot about this.
I only agree to an extent. Men should have every right to defend themselves, I just wouldn't use the words "fight back."
I only agree to an extent. Men should have every right to defend themselves, I just wouldn't use the words "fight back."
block tower
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DUFFMCWALIN
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Not all men have equal strength either. The strength argument is not a good one. It never has been.
I've seen some women brawl, some women can whoop some serious ass. Some girls I saw in middle school and high school I'd never fuck with.
Strength is never the metric used, size is.
If a 6 foot 8 inch athlete gets attacked by a 5 foot 0 inch woman he would basically only need to push her away like this:
Are you on drugs?
Obviously. I think that goes without saying. I wouldn't retaliate against a handicap person or a child. A full grown man however is getting my wrath if he lays his hands on me.
Are... are you putting women on the same level as women and the disabled? smh
Zen_Arcade
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I'm 5' 7" and around 120-125 lbs. I'm sure there are bigger and stronger women then me.
Men and women aren't of equal strength because men and women don't have an equal strength as genders in the first place.
King Cobra
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Men are genetically stronger, not all men are born equal but we are born stronger.
stufte
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Still not bragging.
I'm from the country and I know plenty of women that could kick your ass. So saying a woman is not equal is just as fucked up. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean there aren't any.
If someone hits me, I'm hitting them back.
Says you. Clearly I feel differently. So what now? We gonna mud wrestle?
True, but I still would feel zero remorse if a weaker man punched me and I retaliated. They should know better. This is my personal code and of course others will have theirs.
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