I see. I guess, ideally it would be better to have both intern/external options, but since both Sony & MSFT offer us one or the other, we just have to deal with the pros of each.
Xbox One gets external storage, real name support, auto-sign in w/June system update
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I see. I guess, ideally it would be better to have both intern/external options, but since both Sony & MSFT offer us one or the other, we just have to deal with the pros of each.
Either way, I doubt you'd be able to fill either up anytime soon.
That shouldn't be the case. Mine looks me in with no problems without a joypad, even in the dark with headphones on whilst staring at my phone. Having to pick up the pad first goes a long way towards removing the whole point, lol.
ncsuDuncan
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Game reviewers, maybe.
It'll take years though, and if they ever need more than 16TB they can just plug in a different external drive. I guess for PS4 they'd have to delete stuff or swap out internal drives.
(Could you imagine what these console dashboards would look like with 16TB of games installed? Oof.)
Dreams-Visions
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great additions.
still waiting on DNLA, though.
still waiting on DNLA, though.
I can't even imagine what 16TB of games would look like with the pins on Xbox One. You would be scrolling for days.
ncsuDuncan
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faster load times, but the consoles ship with 5400rpm drives anyway
Neander
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MrPregnantBear
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If you have kinect that shouldn't be a problem.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
All you have say is a magic word "Xbox Go to..." and will save you all the trouble.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Works fine until it doesn't.
Well that solves the problem for those of us who like using Kinect.
Family Fry
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There is a pin limit on the dashboard.
If you start recording a lot of 1080p video it can add up quickly though. Over 5-7 years you would be surprised. But it is virtually unlimited for all intents and purposes.
Hockeymac18
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Has anyone mentioned as an advantage to MS's solution for external drives the option to take your drive with you to a friends house to play on his/her Xbox One?
Especially advantageous if you've gone full digital, no more having to carry around all your discs.
That is pretty freaking awesome. I look forward to getting this with my brother and his XB1.
Especially advantageous if you've gone full digital, no more having to carry around all your discs.
That is pretty freaking awesome. I look forward to getting this with my brother and his XB1.
Not even close, it doesn't add functionality it only limits it. This still requires you to login if you're not set as the main account and not having the Kinect plugged in takes away controller standby mode meaning your controllers are going to die quicker. Also gets rid of automatic screen orientation, wireless controller syncing, automatic controller/profile syncing and a lot more. Not to mention turning off and on your entertainment system and automatically darkening the screen when no one is there and automatically retuning the screen to normal when it sees you.
A lot of what the Kinect does is in the background and goes unnoticed by most but it's very useful.
Microphone will never be able to replace the Kinect as the Kinect is handling voice processing with it's own on-board chips.
Yeah that's why I've wanted an auto signin, lol. Not sure why it does it like that since I'm the only person in view.
I'm not even slightly convinced of this...
It's how the hardware works.
Dont forget the time it would take to install 16TB of games on the Bone.Yep. Now imagine it on PS4.
Better yet, imagine downloading 16TB of games from PSN.
Syphon Filter
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Does anyone know if you can reorganize pins without smart glass and on the console itself with a controller?
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Pretty much this. And I don't understand how people can compare Kinect with Microphones. Those people have not yet used Kinect is all I have to say. The whole point of Kinect and why its so good and useful is because its always ON and always listening for the command, no matter where you are in the room and no matter what you are doing. You don't have to put anything on you to use voice functionality on Xbox.
Well the games/apps section with all the tiles.
All you can do is send a tile to the front. There is no sorting capabilities with the controller.
I have a
question, If I load games from an external usb drive will they load a lot slower? (not an SSD btw, cant afford a big enough size for that) Does the drive speed matter all that much? Can it affect the performance of the game outside of the loading times? Again this may be a very stupid question but Id like to know before investing in a large drive.
potentially dumb
Not to mention if you're using a headset for voice commands you'd be required to have it unmuted while giving voice commands and everyone in your party would hear you doing it(which is quite the annoyance.). With Kinect I can at least mute my microphone and than give voice commands without having to worry about annoying strangers or my friends. Just a personal thing to add on but having to use a microphone to give voice commands just kinda spoils the experience for me, the point of voice commands(and even gestures) is to do so without having to do stuff like track down a microphone or a controller.
USB 3.0 + a 7,200 RPM HDD should be faster than the standard drive in the Xbox One.
I'm pretty sure USB 3.0 transfer speeds are actually faster than the SATA II interface they're using for the internal hard drive. I would assume if your external is at least 5400 rpm performance will be the exact same and 7200 rpm may potentially see faster loading times.
That's not the part I'm having issues with. I'm not questioning how the Kinect currently works, I'm questioning that a headset wouldn't be able to work similarly. Just because something is implemented a certain way, doesn't mean no other implementation would work.
If I'm able to use Cortana on my phone without issue (which is multiple leaps ahead of where we are with the X1 right now), I don't see how the console itself, with the processing that is typically reserved for Kinect would be unable to handle to processing of simple voice commands. Part of the Kinect's processing is also likely to be dealing with audio coming from many directions, and filtering out unwanted sound, so you can do things like voice chat whilst playing Killer Instinct. A headset would be placed directly where the voice originates from, and should be far more trivial to deal with.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see headset voice commands added in the future, now that they will be selling a load of console without the Kinect.
No, it isn't.
The vast majority of the the audio/voice processing is done by various audio "chips" in the XB1 itself. There might be a little bit of on-Kinect pre-processing related to the microphone array, but it's a rounding error compared to the work being done in the console itself.
Isn't Cortana handled server side? I didn't think Cortana was available offline?
Cortana and Xbox One are completely different.
Cortana you hold inches from your face and doesn't have to deal with too much environmental sounds, even though environmental sounds still mess up Cortana from time to time(I use it for a lot of stuff.).
Xbox One's Kinect has to work up to at least 10 feet or more from the person giving commands and has to deal with a stereo system and all kinds of noises around a house while taking your commands.
It's hard to compare the two.
Cortana works offline for a limited amount of commands.
They could just let you mute your mic for chat instead of completely?
Kinect is already being removed, no reason to grasp for straws about it. If you like kinect, that's cool.
cyber_ninja
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This is a great freaking feature indeed. Give credit when it's due, good job MS.
Final Verdict
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Awesome!! Been waiting for external storage for a while!
Cortana's responses are server side, but many of the OS functions it performs (such as opening an app, and even pushing data to it) work offline. These things are the closest comparisons to the current Xbox One functionality. If (when) Cortana comes to Xbox One, it will be server side also (much like Xbox Bing is now), Kinect or no Kinect.
Steverulez
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http://uk.startech.com/HDD/Enclosur...-RAID-Tower-eSATA-USB-3-Enclosure~SAT3540U3ER
Get one of those and load em up with 4x4tb drives in raid 0, bam hit the limit
Blimey, thats not far off the cost of an XB1 itself
I'm not sure if you realise this, but you're kinda making my point for me here. You know what else would be inches from your face without much enviromental sounds to deal with? Yup!
Family Fry
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Here's a thought about Kinectless voice commands. Use your mobile/smartglass/app.
It could be possible to use Smartglass function for mic commands/voice recognition.
OR even a dedicated voice app for Xbox One on mobile, meaning you can use voice commands on your mobile connected to Xbox One, a bit like smartglass.
It could be possible to use Smartglass function for mic commands/voice recognition.
OR even a dedicated voice app for Xbox One on mobile, meaning you can use voice commands on your mobile connected to Xbox One, a bit like smartglass.
Not grasping for straws but to say the Kinect is only useful for signing in isn't doing the device justice.
Both devices work in different ways, the Kinect is able to send the processed audio information from the Kinect directly to the audio chip inside the Xbox One. I'm not sure if the design is capable of handling that over the microphone without it being software emulated which would take away power from games and non-games.
SEGAvangelist
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But if you press mute, it wouldn't accept commands on the headset, so everyone in party chat would have to hear the voice commands. I not sure how they get around that, exactly. A mic on the controller would work better than a headset I guess.
Ricky Ricardo
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16TB tho?!
I wonder who will be the first to hit that limit
I wonder who will be the first to hit that limit
I'm aware that both work in different ways. I just don't see any reason why a mic would not be able to offer similar functionality. I can't think of a single good reason why. If you're using the mic, then you're not using the Kinect. They have resources reserved for the Kinect that would dwarf the requirements for processing the audio from the mic. Seems simple enough.
Oh, I'm definitely not saying it will be as good! I've actually made the opposite argument countless times. The headset has to deal with:
- You have to actually wear it.
- You're tethered to a controller.
- It's not going to be turning your system on.
- You were probably already using it for voice chat (this problem exists for Kinect if you were using that for voice chat too though).
- If your controller standby's then you're not saying anything until it's done waking up.