Gamespot rumor: Big third-party Xbox One exclusive at E3
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No. The way it was announced & the fact that Respawn had been hinting for months that a PS4/PS3 version was possible down the line, it was an obvious that a new deal had just been made between MS & EA.
Dragonborn
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Would a Hunter x Hunter action rpg exclusive to XB1 make you buy one?
If it was good, absolutely. It would be a dream come true. HxH is one of my favorite manga ever. How did you know I love HXH
So you really believe TF had any chance of not coming out? Come on man, EA wasn't ever going to let that happen. The next big game from the former COD devs? TF was coming with or without MS and we know for a fact that it was originally only timed (Zampella confirmed) before MS moneyhatted it competely. It's prerty obvious what happened.
The TF will come to PS4 rumor was gaining speed and it had the potential to undermind sales, MS stepped in paid up and got it fully exclusive. Heck, I remember Yusuf Mehdi saying something like "Sorry PS4 owners, TF exclusives" almost in a mocking tone (at least that's how I read it).
I hope not, I wanna play it.
David Ricardo
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Why would it be expensive? Sega doesnt seem to think is a valuable game. If Microsoft funds it maybe then Sega can make some money out of the IP.
I don't care what Phil Spencer says, he just got the job & I don't worship him like some of y'all do.
some of the confusion is the status of the company versus the status of the ip holder. sometimes they're in sync with each other and sometimes not. as we see in this thread, sometimes it's a holdover of outdated 90s terms that never had any real meaning in the first place (boy nintendo was good at downplaying their problems in the 90s by sounding exclusive and premium with terms like quality over quantity and 2nd party studios).
what you're describing is sort of an issue though, because publishing doesn't mean a whole lot in the way of ip ownership. in rare cases it does- like natsume owns the rights to the harvest moon name in the us, meaning marvelous has to rename the series if they want to release it in america (as xseed). on the other hand, xseed publishing the last story doesn't mean the last story isn't a first-party nintendo game. it's still copyright of nintendo/mistwalker, but it's published by a third-party publisher in the united states.
ratchet & clank is a first-party owned ip, developed by third-party developers (insomniac and high impact games). god of war is a first-party owned ip, developed by first-party developer santa monica studios as well as third-party developer ready at dawn.
when people say first-party game, they are mostly talking about ip ownership. there's little distinction between something like fire emblem awakening or luigi's mansion 2. but one was developed in-house while the other was essentially outsourced.
sunset overdrive is neither. it's a third-party game exclusive to a particular platform. the publisher may have mattered in securing it as exclusive, but the game still belongs to the third-party.
The term 2nd party title doesn't really exist. It's been made up on some forums years ago, and then was lost in limbo for years. I'm wondering why it suddenly reappears in this thread years later, when everyone came just to use the terms 1st and 3 party because the term '2nd party game' does not make too much sense.
Probably too late already but wouldn't it then help the Xbox One in Japan?
It doesn't matter. Folks like having the distinction between 1st & 2nd party and 2nd & 3rd-party. So the term is here to stay for good. I hear the gaming media use the term all the time on podcasts.
Bayonetta 3?
Dragonborn
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The 360 got some pretty big exclusives and thay did nothing. With the PS4 floundering, the X1 is pretty much DOA in Japan
Yeah your right. All you half to do is some research on it
dark_inferno
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Probably that Platinum Games title.
I wont be surprised if its Vanquish 2.
L4D3 : I dont think so. Last gen Valve had problems working with Valve because of Hardware. And then with Portal 2 they had a good relationship with Sony (Crossplay,Crossbuy etc). Now we have the PS4 that is more like a PC.
Fallout4 : This could be a safe bet.
I wont be surprised if its Vanquish 2.
L4D3 : I dont think so. Last gen Valve had problems working with Valve because of Hardware. And then with Portal 2 they had a good relationship with Sony (Crossplay,Crossbuy etc). Now we have the PS4 that is more like a PC.
Fallout4 : This could be a safe bet.
mysteriousmage09
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Ya, they seem like safe bets. Provided this means "exclusive" rather than "exclusive reveal".
Fruitster
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If it's Mass Effect, I'll be buying an X1 no question. Same for an exclusive Dragons Dogma or Elder Scrolls VI/Fallout 4.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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It's first party published, third party developed. Those are two separate things, although people always like to lump them together, which only creates confusion.
When it comes to publishing, there are only first party (published by the platform holder) and third party (not published by the platform holder) games. Likewise, there are platform holders ("first party publishers"), and third party publishers (everyone else).
When it comes to development, there are first party developers (internal studios), and third party developers (external studios). That holds true for platform holders, but also for other publishers (for instance, Crysis games have been developed by a third party, when viewed from EA's point of view). There is no set definition for "second party" developers, although it's most often used to describe independent developers who only develop for one platform holder's platforms (Insomniac before they went multiplatform, for instance). The term "second party game" comes as a bastardization of that classification, and it means precisely nothing. For the above reasons (mostly because it's not standardized, and only creates confusion) I wish people would just stop using the term "second party" altogether.
Ganondorfo
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Why won't Gamespot give us the answer, it just a rumour. I dont think it will be from a japanese publisher, I think it will be more like an exclusive Star wars game for xbox one (just like Obi Wan for the original Xbox)
Leaning towards this.
This post is dumb, what does worshiping him half do with anything. This is his profession meaning someone would take his word over yours. You know cause it's his job know what 1st,2nd,and 3rd party is.
Did the 360 also have them during launch? I can't remember. If there are 3 to 4 games at launch that the Japanese need then I guess it won't be as DOA as with only one.
If it's Shenmue, of course it wouldn't exist without massive funding. Not even Sega will take the risk. MS funded DR3, Titanfall, SO, Ryse, no reason to think moneyhat unless your upset at the idea of MS bolstering thier lineup.
TheUnsunghero26
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Ok, but stuff like Mass Effect (1), Sunset Overdrive, Alan Wake, and The Gears games (before MS bought the IP) are still considered first party games. Bioware refers to Mass Effect as a first party game in this interview.
Uh, are you actually implying that the guy who was in charge of Microsoft First Party (at the time of that interview) doesn't know the difference between second party and first party?
Try exclusive reveal...
cjp
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That interview is from 2006 before the game was released on other platforms. You can't consider a game released on multiple platforms to be a 1st Party title.
For it to be 1st party, the developer must be owned by the hardware manufacturer.
nintendork666
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Still, so what? It was EA's deal to make, not Respawn.
You'd be surprised, EA bent over backwards for Respawn several times. They got a killer deal. You should read The Final Hours for some more information on this.
BUNTING1243
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I swear to god if it's Fallout 4, I will
pay microsoft $400
I doubt Homefront 2 is "something people will be really excited about" considering the reaction to the first game.
But hey it's an article by Eddie Makuch so I wouldn't be surprised because every game is "something people will be really excited about" so maybe this rumor is about Homefront 2.
But hey it's an article by Eddie Makuch so I wouldn't be surprised because every game is "something people will be really excited about" so maybe this rumor is about Homefront 2.
CeeJay
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speakerlog
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Yeah i'm thinking it's Fallout 4. Just a gut feeling :/ PC Xbox exclusive. Or maybe Mass Effect 4??
thfuck is wron with yu
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For the developer to be first party, yes.
But the game was developed by Bioware (third party) but the trademarks were owned by Microsoft. The game was also published by Microsoft.
After EA purchased Bioware, MS agreed to hand over the IP. Microsoft had publishing rights for the first game for quite some time too. (Probably part of the agreement)
Also hasn't something from platinum been heavily rumoured? I'm not sure many people would be surprised by a Platinum exclusive and the article suggested it would be unexpected.
Goodacre0081
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if this isn't some play on the wording and not just a "reveal" I'm going to be mad at how MS is basically paying big publishers to delay/cancel games on my platform of choice. and please don't give me that excuse of "helping development", most of those games would have been made regardless.
I personally don't care what MS does with it's console business but when tactics like this are used or the indie parity clause it fucking irks me.
I personally don't care what MS does with it's console business but when tactics like this are used or the indie parity clause it fucking irks me.
Shanks D Zoro
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MS never funded Titanfall. That was moneyhatting
They did actually. There was a chance that Titanfall was never going to be made so MS put a lot of money towards it. It's in that interview the Final Hours of Titanfall.
How do you know this?
shinra-bansho
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I don't really think they are though...?
Depending on who you mean by "people."
NB I fully understand what you're saying and how you're defining it. I just don't think that's how people, as in people on here (and apparently Phil Spencer) are defining "first party" vs "third party."
In common vernacular I have seen no regard is given to IP ownership, they're simply referring to the source of development funding/publishing. Thus Heavy Rain or Sunset Overdrive or The Wonderful 101 are commonly referred to as first party games/exclusives.
No way ME4 is the exclusive, EA already lost a fucking lot of sales by not publishing Titanfall on PS4, i don't think they'll male the same mistake twice.
Same for a game from every other developer, i would agree if XBO was the best selling console but Ps4 install base is almost the double now.
It must be from a smaller dev with no big publisher behind it.
Same for a game from every other developer, i would agree if XBO was the best selling console but Ps4 install base is almost the double now.
It must be from a smaller dev with no big publisher behind it.
It could well MS funding a game rather than just a money hat.
Regret Upon Approval
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Judging from their May announcements, it seemed pretty reasonable to conclude they have some sort of big announcement up their sleeves.
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