Gamespot rumor: Big third-party Xbox One exclusive at E3

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ColiBreh1 said:
No. The way it was announced & the fact that Respawn had been hinting for months that a PS4/PS3 version was possible down the line, it was an obvious that a new deal had just been made between MS & EA.
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Just found this.

Titanfall was planned as a timed Xbox and PC exclusive, due to a shortage of manpower and resources: according to Zampella, the console version would have been Xbox-only for 13 months. EA had other ideas, however. Here's the relevant excerpt:

In order to make the economics work and keep Titanfall alive, EA needed a first-party publisher to invest. Xbox was willing to step up and save the project, which turned out to be a wise bet. Xbox now has one of the biggest games of the year as an exclusive to its platforms, although it lays no claim to any sequels.
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I don't see the different between fund and money-hat.
In both situation, developer get the money so they can make more game with it.
Unless developer didn't get the money, and the money go to the middleman or something, then it's bad for the industry.
 
wapplew said:
I don't see the different between fund and money-hat.
In both situation, developer get the money so they can make more game with it.
Unless developer didn't get the money, and the money go to the middleman or something, then it's bad for the industry.
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Money hat is when the game is going to be made regardless but a platform holder pays a large sum of money for it not to be on other platforms. If a game is funded then chances are it would never have been made without the support of the platform holder.
 
Please don't let it be Vanquish 2, or anything else from Platinum for that matter. I don't want to buy an Xbone, lol.
 
luffeN said:
Probably too late already but wouldn't it then help the Xbox One in Japan?
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It might help XB1 a bit but it would be more likely to hurt the IP there - also i doubt it would help XB1 much in the West which is where it needs to improve before even worryimg about Japan.

Any exclusive or timed deal needs to be relevant for US/UK most prominantly for MS right now.
 
Arai said:
I'm actually thinking it's this since SEGA recently renewed the IP or whatever and they always released the better half of their line-up on XBox instead of PlayStation (from X360 and up, IMO).
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Not to mention that shenmue.com went down like 2 weeks ago for the first time ever. DUN! DUN! DUUUUUN!
 
BPoole said:
Something from Platinum probably
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You missed this
one "big" third-party exclusive reveal
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so they're not talking about Platinum. I would guess Capcom. They need money and I don't see them and Sony being bffs as if they should keep some type of friendship, despite the game they are making PS4 only (not sure if it might be timed exclusive).

If it's Battlefront, I"m going to be mad/sad.
 
I can't see anything major from 3rd party being exclusive to the XB1. Or PS4 for that matter.

Perhaps if it's a new IP. Or 1 year timed exclusive for an existing franchise. Maybe big 'Indie' game(s).

Also I always find it silly when people are quick to throw the 'moneyhat' term around. I'm sure that when these business decisions are made there's a lot more goes into it than simply "paying to keep it off another platform". Things such as co funding, focused marketing, concentrated development. Even when money is involved in making a deal, that doesn't mean there aren't other incentives and advantages for both the developer and platform holder.
 
shinra-bansho said:
I don't really think they are though...?

Depending on who you mean by "people."

NB I fully understand what you're saying and how you're defining it. I just don't think that's how people, as in people on here (and apparently Phil Spencer) are defining "first party" vs "third party."
In common vernacular I have seen no regard is given to IP ownership, they're simply referring to the source of development funding/publishing. Thus Heavy Rain or Sunset Overdrive or The Wonderful 101 are commonly referred to as first party games/exclusives.
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i believe that if you're discussing what is a first-party game, you're actually discussing the holder of the intellectual property. nobody is actually questioning the status of the developer when they're talking about first-party games. hence the current discussion on sunset overdrive. it does no one any good if they think sunset overdrive is a first-party game when it isn't, and sunset overdrive 2 appears as a multiplatform release. it's fine for list wars, but it's incorrect to state it as a first-party game since insomniac holds the copyright and the trademark.

the wonderful 101 is copyright of nintendo/platinum games, and trademark of nintendo. that's a first-party game developed by a third-party.

what i don't know is what happens in the split. that is actually the case with heavy rain. scee controls the copyright while quantic dream holds the trademark. i am not sure what that would indicate for the series moving forward- i think the copyright refers to the product that is heavy rain- which scee is in control of, while quantic dream is in control of the logo and other sorts of likeness of the game. i really would need clarification on this, but i think it means sony can't simply use all of heavy rain name/logo without quantic dream's permission, where nintendo would be free to do so with the wonderful 101. quantic dream might feasibly be able to shop the heavy rain name around to other places, but not the original product made in 2009/2010.

anyway in the case of sunset overdrive, development funds or not, insomniac holds the copyright and trademark to the game. there might be some exclusivity stuff in there for microsoft where the game can't appear on other platforms (or maybe can't for a long period of time), but microsoft is also unable to use the sunset overdrive name/characters/worlds without the developer's (insomniac's) permission. that's something you could do with a first-party game, something sunset overdrive is not.

people are free to believe whatever they want, if they believe development funds have a purpose in deciding what a game is to them, but that doesn't mean they're right in a real-world sense.
 
Dragonborn said:
Yup, I think Epic makes the most sense, though it wouldn't be unexpected so who knows. Maybe it's something like DayZ, or LoL?

Thatgamecompany going exclusive would be a big slap in the face, as I said before I want MS to get their own identity and not jusy follow along and do what Sony's doing. How about they build up their first party, or create a pub fund type system to make studios like thatgamecomoany
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We're not going exclusive.

Our next game is going to be multiplatform. That's part of the reason why we've received funding from Venture Capitalists - to ensure that we can make games without having to sign exclusivity agreements in order to fund the games.
 
I don't think there is a very good chance that an established franchise (Such as Fallout or Mass Effect) ends up being an exclusive. However if it is a brand new IP I can certainly see something being exclusive.

Plus I'm more excited for new games over those in an existing franchise so I'm hoping for a new IP.
 
Arai said:
I'm actually thinking it's this since SEGA recently renewed the IP or whatever and they always released the better half of their line-up on XBox instead of PlayStation (from X360 and up, IMO).
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Huh? Valkyria and Yakuza is the better half of their lineup.
 
thatgamecompany said:
We're not going exclusive.

Our next game is going to be multiplatform. That's part of the reason why we've received funding from Venture Capitalists - to ensure that we can make games without having to sign exclusivity agreements in order to fund the games.
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cant wait to hear more about the new game
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
You missed this

so they're not talking about Platinum. I would guess Capcom. They need money and I don't see them and Sony being bffs as if they should keep some type of friendship, despite the game they are making PS4 only (not sure if it might be timed exclusive).

If it's Battlefront, I"m going to be mad/sad.
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you missed this

gamespot rumor
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so frankly it could be anything
 
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