Except that doesn't seem to be what anyone else is discussing.
not in such terms, but what people care about for their console wars is which franchises will basically stick around.
It's a semantic discussion about the use of the term in the vernacular, in which I don't think there is any real "right."
i'm trying to bring a lot more structure in determining what is right, since things like '2nd party' don't actually exist in the real world. i think it's better to be more informed and live outside the fictional world of consoles and companies with experience points, hp bars, and limit breaks.
As posted in the thread, the former CVP of Microsoft Game Studios and now Head of Xbox, considers first party to be defined by who publishes the title in question.
he could really just mean that it's a first-party published title, in which case he would be correct. the last story is a third-party published game, but i don't think people consider it 'a third-party game' when it's copyrighted and trademarked under nintendo. any sort of third-party ownership they may consider is mistwalker, but attributing that much power to the publisher based solely on publishing is incorrect.
I'm assuming it's only become a topic of discussion in trying to interpret what exactly Gamespot means. Is it likely they're referring to IP rights? Or is it more likely they're referring to the game in question either being (1) developed by an external studio and/or (2) published by an external publisher, regardless of IP rights.
well exclusive is exclusive, whether it's timed (perhaps what mass effect was), a deal for just one+ game (sonic lost world/sonic boom), or outsourced first-party ips (excite truck). all of them have their places on list wars, but something like the wonderful 101 is going to be more prestigious than lego city undercover. people who have invested in one platform are going to want more and expect the same level of quality. there's less of a chance with that regarding the first two options. that's when knowing exactly what a property
is would be good, when backing up your arguments with facts and stuff.
this all stemmed from rrc1594 asking the difference between 2nd party and 3rd party. there is no such thing as 2nd party in the real world, so the point is to distinguish the purpose of a 3rd party in relation to 1st parties. that's really what it comes down to, and there are a lot of details and variations. dumbing that down does no one any favors.