Eh, I never really thought Hunters were ever interesting to fight against. They're pretty much the only enemies that are bullet sponges (even Halo 2 brutes die with a couple of headshots) and give very little feedback as to how close to dying they are. Looking back it's weird that Bungie never really changed Hunters much in that regard.
Destiny Alpha Gameplay Leaks [Update: Luke from Bungie comments, read post 1557]
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fuzzyreactor
Banned
please be good. It's basically the only game on next gen consoles that looks worth owning besides Sunset Overdrive.
No, there's really no depth to it at all. I spent 400 hours with the game from closed beta to update 10 because of misplaced faith, but they didn't move away from the treadmill gameplay.
Sure, you can mix it up and have fun creating your own (backflips, wall runs, etc...), but nothing about the way the game is set up encourages or requires it.
The game is a power spam gear check that takes no skill to win.
Bungie know how to do AI and enemy encounters, it's going to be nothing like Warframe.
NullPointer
Member
That's why the gaming gods made fuel rod cannons.
Or shotguns if you don't mind a little worm colony splatter on the ole armor.
Parkour is for secrets in the void and jumps and slides work into your melee and defense, and melee is an entire system of combat on its own now - as in you can run missions with only your melee weapon, with offensive, defensive and custom combination attacks. Its also not a hard gear check as you can defeat level 25-30 enemies with level 5 weapons. You're selling the game way short. But most importantly, its had time to adapt to its playerbase and evolve its systems wholesale. That evolution may prove to be more valuable than hundreds of staff and half a billion in funding, at least for this first installment.
Last bit: Warframe has shit for lore, and the PVP is like many loot games in that its just for kicks, but it does have all kinds of presence and personality. The art style is colorful and crazy unique, and even better in motion. Its real competition.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
YMMV on my comments hereafter
Is it distressing to anyone else that it's June and this is Alpha footage? Granted this could be months old footage leaking, but am I the only one that immediately thought ALPHA? Why is it still ALPHA footage?
Current release date is Sept. 9th right? So you figure the game needs to go gold roughly a month ahead. That's only 2 months away, and we are getting ALPHA footage?!?!?!
Is it distressing to anyone else that it's June and this is Alpha footage? Granted this could be months old footage leaking, but am I the only one that immediately thought ALPHA? Why is it still ALPHA footage?
Current release date is Sept. 9th right? So you figure the game needs to go gold roughly a month ahead. That's only 2 months away, and we are getting ALPHA footage?!?!?!
Still looking forward to this more than any other game this year. The game world, while beautiful, does look empty though. It needs wildlife, which just may not be in this area of the game.
Love everything I'm seeing with the combat, although the Hunter with the fire pistol skill is not for me. Warlock with space magic death orbs FTW!
Wish you could actually see the weapons and items you are picking up instead of generic light orbs(currency?).
Love everything I'm seeing with the combat, although the Hunter with the fire pistol skill is not for me. Warlock with space magic death orbs FTW!
Wish you could actually see the weapons and items you are picking up instead of generic light orbs(currency?).
ElzarTheBam
Member
Never heard of it.
Vanillalite
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That has what to do with the fact that this leaked footage is Alpha? So they show the game at E3? I know this.
WTF does that have to do with the fact that this is still Alpha footage?
but, that knife!
Should be interesting if they can deliver on that. So far I'm a little cautious
This might be one of those games where the alpha is actually a beta and the beta actually a demo.
Perhaps they just released the alpha to the testing pool but they have a beta being tested internally.
It's a leak of old code. Why is this distressing? I could upload some alpha footage of ms. Pac Man. Would that make you worry about how Me. Pac Man turned out?
Alpha means something is feature complete and undergoing internal testing. That's what's happening right now, so it's an alpha.
The fact that they're letting people play the alpha doesn't mean that's where they are in development. It just means that's the most reliable/stable build to test.
Or one of those games where we get a beta on day-one
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I had similar thoughts were I figured Alpha might actually be Beta and the "beta" is really just a demo.
I'm more bothered by the Fallen Captains' behavior. The Space Zombie Wizard might also fill some non-combat role like spawning/buffing other enemies (I'm guessing, because it sure didn't seem interested in fighting), so it could have an excuse if it's too busy to deal with the player's bullshit, but the Elite replacements just look like huge cowards and the closest thing to a challenge when dealing with them seems to be catching up as they find new boxes to hide behind, and that's with active energy shields.
Is it odd that the PS4 allows someone to stream alpha code directly from it? Shouldn't there be a system of checks and balances to make sure something like that doesn't happen?
piratepwnsninja
Member
So much of this thread is clearly described as:
Some of the discussion is fine, but so many people speaking in absolutes based on a small sampling of footage and/or having not played. When you are working with such limited information, making objective claims is asinine.
Some of the discussion is fine, but so many people speaking in absolutes based on a small sampling of footage and/or having not played. When you are working with such limited information, making objective claims is asinine.
Trickster
Member
Wizards are part of the Hive race, which from my understanding is basically supposed to be the flood race of Destiny. That's why the basic Hive enemies are essentially space zombies that can run
harrypmgaga
Member
More gameplay, the leaktrain just keeps giving. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yucw9_videogames?start=16 (It's public event gameplay).
EDIT: lol, got rid of their gamer ID but left the fingerprint.
EDIT: lol, got rid of their gamer ID but left the fingerprint.
Myafterhours
Neo Member
Late to the party guys. Someone give me a 2 sentence summary of gaf's feelings towards the game (or post a new link)
The Librarian
Banned
There are heavy weapons in Destiny, don't forget! The three weapon limit now.
You're overselling it man. A lot.
Parkour is tacked on mostly. It factors into a few melee moves, and you can use it for traversal effectively in a few places that have been designed for it, but on a moment to moment basis during regular combat the only thing you need to do to efficiently win is spam powers and weapons.
The problem is that the game doesn't require you to put any more thought into it than that, so it never really feels satisfying. You can impose restrictions or difficulty like going up against higher level enemies with lower gear, but that just makes it bullet spongy and boring. IT doesn't do anything to fix the dreadful AI.
Warframe has awesome art, and some great designs, but the game itself is literally just a gear treadmill that takes very little skill to be effective at.
Bungie know how to craft enemy encounters that require you to think, DE don't. The fact they have, for me, provided the best enemy encounters in an FPS so far gives me faith that if they nail the open world stuff this game is going to be miles ahead of games like Warframe and Boarderlands.
Good and bad.
Yeah, but a fire pistol with only a few shots and a knife vs. an area of effect bomb and force punch...I'll have the latter please!
You are going to see footage from bungie, and information on the beta?
harrypmgaga
Member
my bad, didn't see you post a link - didn't mean to step on any toes!
Trickster
Member
Some people don't like it for reasons such as "generic" "bad ai" "generic" "ADS" "generic" "looks boring" "looks like borderlands and halo, that's generic"
Some people like it for reasons such as "damn the world looks big" "looks like there a lot to explore" "looks like borderlands and halo, that's a good thing"
Skepticism isn't bad - in fact, given the state of the gaming media generally, it's absolutely warranted - but it's quite silly for everyone to become a critic over what is literally biased information. Unless we get some in depth explanations of overall gameplay sometime in the near future, we're only really going to be able to evaluate this game (in some way) come July.
Vanillalite
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I'm banking more on this than anything.
that looked great IMO. cue bitching about fighting wave after wave of generic enemies
harrypmgaga
Member
Agreed. Liking where this game is going.
Handy Fake
Member
Looks great fun to me. Any news on co-op splitscreen?
Trickster
Member
I'll be honest and say that while I think people are being overly harsh on the game based on alpha footage. I think the objective of that particular public event is pretty darn boring.
Wouldn't get my hopes up
Combat looked better there than it did in the first two parts of the first leak. Enemies were pretty fucking dumb in the opening waves, but the later dudes looked legitimately challenging. I hope the game proceeds in that fashion as your character evolves, because the bottom-tier Fallen and the Hive are mind-numbingly dull.
harrypmgaga
Member
You're supposed to stay close to the "ship" to upload data. If you step away from the radius, you stop uploading. There's a time limit on the event, and the player simply failed to get to 100% upload in the time frame. I'd imagine it's more manageable with more people.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Can't say I'm impressed.
I know it's early and all, but looks damn rough.
I know it's early and all, but looks damn rough.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
I'm not too sure but I hope the reticule size when shooting doesn't get in the way during competitive when free aiming.
everyday math
Banned
I forgot to add. The menus that we've seen so far look awesome.