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Pretty excited for this. We have hardly seen much of Earth. This game is gonna be huge.
Destiny Alpha Gameplay Leaks [Update: Luke from Bungie comments, read post 1557]
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harrypmgaga
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I think the problem is we've seen plenty of earth (like this gameplay and the demos they've shown) and none of the other planets.
I watched all the footage.
The world looks very desolate, and not necessarily in a bad way. It's beautiful, it's quiet, and it's expansive. Reminds me a lot of the second mission in Halo. Hopefully there's enough stuff within the world to make it worth exploring. The various side quests and events that cropped up as the guy was walking around seemed encouraging. I really enjoyed the bit where he dipped down into that tunnel and found a bunch of level 77 enemies who immediately proceeded to kick his ass. It reminds me of that cave past the graveyard at the beginning of Dark Souls.
Combat still leaves much to be desired. The Supers and the knife-throwing looked slick, but the regular fighting was bland. The AI in particular struck me as unimpressive, which is all the more surprising given that this is a Bungie game. When the player encountered a few similarly-leveled Fallen, they immediately went into retreat-mode and just hid, waiting for him to stab or shoot them with little resistance. Only the higher-leveled Fallen appeared even remotely interesting to fight.
That said, I don't think it's too bad, given that most of the footage was just the dude walking around the world. I haven't played many open world games where every random encounter was amazing - compared to something like Fallout, or even Borderlands, it seemed fine for what it was. When it comes to scripted missions, however, Bungie has to do better. The fight against the wizard was absolutely lame, and the other Strike they showed off earlier was just as dull.
The world looks very desolate, and not necessarily in a bad way. It's beautiful, it's quiet, and it's expansive. Reminds me a lot of the second mission in Halo. Hopefully there's enough stuff within the world to make it worth exploring. The various side quests and events that cropped up as the guy was walking around seemed encouraging. I really enjoyed the bit where he dipped down into that tunnel and found a bunch of level 77 enemies who immediately proceeded to kick his ass. It reminds me of that cave past the graveyard at the beginning of Dark Souls.
Combat still leaves much to be desired. The Supers and the knife-throwing looked slick, but the regular fighting was bland. The AI in particular struck me as unimpressive, which is all the more surprising given that this is a Bungie game. When the player encountered a few similarly-leveled Fallen, they immediately went into retreat-mode and just hid, waiting for him to stab or shoot them with little resistance. Only the higher-leveled Fallen appeared even remotely interesting to fight.
That said, I don't think it's too bad, given that most of the footage was just the dude walking around the world. I haven't played many open world games where every random encounter was amazing - compared to something like Fallout, or even Borderlands, it seemed fine for what it was. When it comes to scripted missions, however, Bungie has to do better. The fight against the wizard was absolutely lame, and the other Strike they showed off earlier was just as dull.
Twilight Gap
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everyday math
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We've seen one section of Earth. But I get what your saying. I agree as well.
I wanna see swampy Chicago and Titan.
Messofanego
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Good post. Didn't read through this whole thread, but it's sad to hear if so many people are in favour of ADS as the only way. Personally prefer seeing my peripherals and not as narrow a FoV.
harrypmgaga
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To be fair, we really don't know how big each zone is. It's starting to look like all of the "Earth" gameplay takes place in Old Russia. And given the scope of the game, I wouldn't be surprised (nor put blame on Bungie) if that happened to be the case.
Twilight Gap
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I didn't like that Bungie added Reticle Bloom into Halo Reach, but I thought it was neat how crouching made your shots more accurate. Strafes were a bit more interesting, especially if you scoped on the last shot to further tighten the spread.
brickwalker0
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Agreed, getting tired of having to ADS. I want to see the rest of the world, not a red dot/iron sight.
everyday math
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Chicago is in the game.
VisceralBowl
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Nobody saved the gameplay and uploaded to Mega or other file sharing site?
I wanna like this game so bad.There are other zones on Earth. We know that for sure. Chicago is in, the Tower is obviously in, and I believe there were one or two others as well.
VisceralBowl
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lol
So basically locked framerate is 30fps for PS4?
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A multi-million FPS project [let us not forget the $500m reference] can't have 60fps for while the "indie" Metro Redux can? And if I am wrong (probably I am to be honest) why would they not tell the whole world about it considering they do know how important frame rate per second is these days?
Please tell me I am wrong and stupid.
rain elbows
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I see some fellow Gafers with the Alpha. 
Twilight Gap
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It could be 60fps; I'll remove that part until it's confirmed.
However, given Bungie's track record and the apparent inclusion of Motion Blur (something I wouldn't really expect much of in a 60fps shooter), 30fps could be just as likely.
We'll know in a few days I suppose.
I could be 60fps but they chose 30fps and better graphics.
VisceralBowl
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Well, Metro was a linear game with smaller branching paths (that end up spitting you back onto the main game's one), from what I saw in this - the game is much larger and more open. Also the multiplayer aspect has to be kept in mind (up to 9 people total + AI I think it was for certain campaign areas). This game probably does run above 30 FPS at times, but Bungie decided to lock it so it was more consistent and less jumpy.
xxjuicesxx
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Who is Bob? And why is he so bad at Borderlands?
Hire Juices IMO.
Hire Juices IMO.
Is it very uncommon for Multiplayer FPS to have a locked 60fps? Really do not know what fps most shooters online run with so hence.
I see thanks for the info.
everyday math
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Jealous.I see some fellow Gafers with the Alpha.
RSB
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Even if they could go for 60fps with Destiny (which seems possible, it being a cross gen game and all) I don't think they would. Mostly because that would "force" them to go for 60fps for all the next Destiny games, and Bungie doesn't want that. They love those pretty skyboxes too much, and if they have to sacrifice 60fps for them, they will do it.
It's not like the gameplay is super fast or anything, so a locked 30fps should be fine.
It's not like the gameplay is super fast or anything, so a locked 30fps should be fine.
Speaking of which. If for example I max out everything in a game and lock it at 60fps but it stutters/screen tearing. If I then lock it at 30fps how much smoother will it be? Have we got on average a percentage ratio?
VisceralBowl
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Just because you locked a game at 60 FPS does not mean you're running it at that. Running sub 120 / 60 (on a screen that is 120Hz or 60Hz) can still result in screen tearing and stutter. 30 FPS can be divided into 120/60 so usually there is no issues with tearing and whatnot. If you still cannot hit 30 frames, you will still get issues with tearing and stutter.
Technically speaking, 30 FPS is less smooth than anything above it, but it is more consistent (giving the impression of it being smoother) unless you're locked to 60/120 and actually hitting them at all times.
sneakypete
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Where's all da loot? I don't think I saw him loot anything in the last 3 videos.
everyday math
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We'll he looted 2 chests and he got some armor. Maybe the Alpha didn't really have much loot?
StoppedInTracks
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People used to say that Titanfall was "manufactured". Like there was this gigantic focus group and EA sat down with them and the marketing team and tried to create a "fake" game that will check all the boxes and sell to the largest market possible.
After seeing these videos, for me at least, it seems Destiny is the truest "manufactured" game out there. Activision spend bazillion moolahs on the Bungie contract and basically told them: people like our loot games: Diablo, WoW. People like your shootbangs (Halo). Mix the two. We have the greatest, most complex Excel files and formulas possible. We will give you a 100% proof blueprint for the "next big thing". And this is how the game was born. Not from dat Bungie love but from dat Activision marketing machine.
Prove me wrong, Bungie, when the game ships.
After seeing these videos, for me at least, it seems Destiny is the truest "manufactured" game out there. Activision spend bazillion moolahs on the Bungie contract and basically told them: people like our loot games: Diablo, WoW. People like your shootbangs (Halo). Mix the two. We have the greatest, most complex Excel files and formulas possible. We will give you a 100% proof blueprint for the "next big thing". And this is how the game was born. Not from dat Bungie love but from dat Activision marketing machine.
Prove me wrong, Bungie, when the game ships.
Really like the gameplay. Areas look large and interesting. There are hidden paths everywhere. I was wishing I could take control of the guy and make him head down other paths he walked past.
I wish the player had mixed up his play style more. I loved Halo's gunplay, jumping on too of obstacles, flying about all over the place. The guardians all have their own movement ability like double jump and the player was never using them.
They didn't want to use their shotty either, and there was lots of situations that would have been perfect. He couldn't throw a grenade to save his life either.
I'm taking that most, if not all of that was patrol mode with enemies placed in certain areas without much scripting. Looking forward to seeing the same areas used in more structured encounters in strikes, raids and campaign.
Those canyons look great for tooling about on sparrows. I don't know if the one the player had was completely un-upgraded or if they just didn't know where the accelerator was.
People who are having issues with ADS, Bungie said a while back that hip shooting works just fine, I'm guessing it's a but like wolfenstein in that regard.
Wish I had friends at Bungie to get in on the Alpha. The beta is still a long way away. Hyped.
I wish the player had mixed up his play style more. I loved Halo's gunplay, jumping on too of obstacles, flying about all over the place. The guardians all have their own movement ability like double jump and the player was never using them.
They didn't want to use their shotty either, and there was lots of situations that would have been perfect. He couldn't throw a grenade to save his life either.
I'm taking that most, if not all of that was patrol mode with enemies placed in certain areas without much scripting. Looking forward to seeing the same areas used in more structured encounters in strikes, raids and campaign.
Those canyons look great for tooling about on sparrows. I don't know if the one the player had was completely un-upgraded or if they just didn't know where the accelerator was.
People who are having issues with ADS, Bungie said a while back that hip shooting works just fine, I'm guessing it's a but like wolfenstein in that regard.
Wish I had friends at Bungie to get in on the Alpha. The beta is still a long way away. Hyped.
so 1 world, 1 strike, and 1 campaign mission. The game will be huuuuuge when you think about multiple worlds.
it also feels and looks amazing, it looks fun and crisp and gameplay really seems the priority, which is the the best and most hardcore thing of any game, regardless of 60 fps or 30fps or all that crap.
it also feels and looks amazing, it looks fun and crisp and gameplay really seems the priority, which is the the best and most hardcore thing of any game, regardless of 60 fps or 30fps or all that crap.
Being able to accurately shoot from a hipfire position like in non-ADS shooters is certainly a part of how ADS is more realistic. You also have to take the time to pull it up to line your shot up, which changes how you play. And once aimed, you are usually limited to very slow movement and your vision is focused, reducing your ability to see elsewhere in your periphery.
I mean, if ADS is purely just a visual distinction, then what is your and everybody else's problem with it?
Yeah there are upwards of four planets, each with multiple destinations, and those videos are just one area, of one destination, on one planet. Lots of scope for fun and adventure.
Haven't watched the footage but sounds the same as halo (accuracy is the same zoomed or unzoomed, zoom is just there to help line up targets further away), just with a slightly different visual conceit.
I really didn't know how to put together what I am feeling towards this game into words, but this is the closest I can come up with. Take all of the things that are big right now - shooter? Check. Open world? Check. Loot-based? Check. Multiplayer and social elements? Check.
It seems like it has everything to become the next big thing. But something just doesn't seem to be clicking. I can't put my finger on it, it's missing something. Right now it just seems too generic and too "samey" to be the revolutionary type gameplay experience Bungie and Activision are undoubtedly hoping it will be.
lowhighkang_LHK
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What's ADS?
SystemUser
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The 20 minutes of leaked alpha footage shows all the character classes and skill trees available in Destiny? How did he show so much in 20 minutes and still have times to play the game? How many characters does he create and level up? The other reports make it sound like he only played one skill tree that wasn't leveled up and he used his abilities once.
Mr. PlayStation
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Aim Down Sight, gives you superior accuracy to pull off headshots in First Person Shooters.
