2014 FIFA World Cup |OT4| What can European men do against such reckless heat?
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AcademicSaucer
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is blackface viewed in the same way outside the US? i know is ok in most of latin america
The Chosen One
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The 2010 World Cup wasn't too bad. It just kinda fizzled out a bit toward the latter matches and the vuvuzelas ended up being the main talking point after the fact. But the Ghana v. Uruguay quarterfinal was one of the most drama-filled games in recent memory.
I think the 2006 World Cup was probably the worst I've seen. I've been following WCs since Italia '90 and I've watched extensive highlights of the '82 and '86 WCs.
The 1990 World Cup will always have a soft-spot for me because it was my first, but in hindsight it was one of the worst overall. Too many boring low-scoring games, too many shoot-outs, and an absolutely dreadful Final. Pretty much the main highlights were Roger Milla and all the spectacular goals from free kicks.
I do agree though that after to closing in on the end of round 2, these have been probably the most exciting group stage matches on the whole of any World Cup in recent memory. Out of 20 something games, there's only been a couple of stinkers and the high scoring average is very welcome, especially in the modern game.
I just hope this WC doesn't lose steam in the knockout rounds when the stakes are raised. Most teams tend to play more conservative in the knockout rounds. I think that's why it's really great to have several surprise teams in the 2nd round because they tend to play with no fear and nothing to lose, which usually opens up the game. Whereas the big powerhouses tend to be scared shitless that they'll get eliminated if they exit the tournament early so they tend to play too conservative and you get boring games.
I think the 2006 World Cup was probably the worst I've seen. I've been following WCs since Italia '90 and I've watched extensive highlights of the '82 and '86 WCs.
The 1990 World Cup will always have a soft-spot for me because it was my first, but in hindsight it was one of the worst overall. Too many boring low-scoring games, too many shoot-outs, and an absolutely dreadful Final. Pretty much the main highlights were Roger Milla and all the spectacular goals from free kicks.
I do agree though that after to closing in on the end of round 2, these have been probably the most exciting group stage matches on the whole of any World Cup in recent memory. Out of 20 something games, there's only been a couple of stinkers and the high scoring average is very welcome, especially in the modern game.
I just hope this WC doesn't lose steam in the knockout rounds when the stakes are raised. Most teams tend to play more conservative in the knockout rounds. I think that's why it's really great to have several surprise teams in the 2nd round because they tend to play with no fear and nothing to lose, which usually opens up the game. Whereas the big powerhouses tend to be scared shitless that they'll get eliminated if they exit the tournament early so they tend to play too conservative and you get boring games.
SporeCrawler
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no. but germans being racists is nothing new, sadly.
dat defense by suarez
disagree there. 2006 was excellent with zidane showing everyone how its done.
the rest was meh unfortunately.
The Chosen One
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If the USA is ever going to make a statement on the world stage, tomorrow is the time. By good fortune, the tables have been set perfectly for the US to advance from a very tough group. They will completely control their destiny through the very end of the group stage. Most people thought they would be effectively eliminated after the first game.
I know some of our International brethren are probably annoyed with all the "Freedom!!11" and crying eagle posts, but you can't underestimate how huge it would be for the US to advance out of this group in terms of soccer development in our country. It would provide rocket fuel to our youth programs to put real resources behind youth soccer and not just make it "Pay to Play" for rich kids. We lose so much good talent every year because of the costs of club soccer. Advancing out of this group, would also give a big boost to the MLS and give them a greater viewership, which will allow them to pay players more money thereby attracting better players overall.
This is the butterfly effect! If the US doesn't advance out of this group, soccer is doomed in America! No pressure.
I know some of our International brethren are probably annoyed with all the "Freedom!!11" and crying eagle posts, but you can't underestimate how huge it would be for the US to advance out of this group in terms of soccer development in our country. It would provide rocket fuel to our youth programs to put real resources behind youth soccer and not just make it "Pay to Play" for rich kids. We lose so much good talent every year because of the costs of club soccer. Advancing out of this group, would also give a big boost to the MLS and give them a greater viewership, which will allow them to pay players more money thereby attracting better players overall.
This is the butterfly effect! If the US doesn't advance out of this group, soccer is doomed in America! No pressure.
Shut the fuck up.
England lost this gem of a player by forcing the failed partnership of Fat Frank and Stevie G
It's not that big of a deal in many places outside the US. When I lived in Argentina I saw many people using Blackface in costume parties, usually when they were dressed as Ronaldinho.
There is no such thing as "blackface" in Germany, the whole concept of painting your face black being something offensive doesn't exist.
Germans =/= neo Nazi idiots
paperboywriter
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Blackfacing might be inappropriate but is not viewed as racist in Germany. There is no cultural root that makes this connection. It's not even mean spirited.
today
If I had tomorrow off work then I would definitely stay up for this game. I may do so anyway.
But Argentinians are pretty racist, I mean, they even paint their Ronaldo white.
paperboywriter
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Hipster doofuses?
Shit it's the late game? That sucks.
Not that interested in the other games today to be honest but will probably watch them anyway. Group H is just such a bummer.
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Watching Libertadores is always: "Come on, fight at the end, please", and they usually deliver.
The_Hitcher89
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FUCK, miss the USA game 
PdotMichael
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Sure, the thread became a place for overused memes and meltdowns.
PoemOfTheLastMoment
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It's still offensive whether or not it's part of your culture. Saying that a racist connotation doesnt exist is such a bullshit excuse.
PdotMichael
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That doesn't really make sense.
Something can only be racist if it has a racist connotations in your culture.
How does that even work? You know, Americans don't have a monopoly on stating what is and isn't offensive.
paperboywriter
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It's not like they are dressing as slaves. Offensive, yes. Inappropriate, yes. Racist, not by a long shot.
The one practicing it doesn't have any say if it's offensive or not. If black people in South America/Germany don't mind them using blackface, then that's one thing, but the ones putting the masks on can't decide that. The intent (or supposed malice) behind it can't be used as validation.
Arjen
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Huh, so i was right, when they showed the guy, i said, is tha an ss symbol?? My friends called me crazy. Makes even more sense with the HH in front of it i guess.
PdotMichael
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So how large was the outcry in Ghana?
And even then it would be just offensive or insulting but not racist. Because racism is the prejudice and discrimation based on biological differnces.
TeddyShardik
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Oh man..that Germany - Ghana game sure was something. That second half was great to watch. Fair result I'd say. Totally expected us to dominate but Ghana was really good.
Messi saving Argentina wasn't as entertaining as it should be and Bosnia got robbed...what a day.
Looking forward to US - Portugal today.
Omg, that's mean...and awesome. xD
Messi saving Argentina wasn't as entertaining as it should be and Bosnia got robbed...what a day.
Looking forward to US - Portugal today.
Omg, that's mean...and awesome. xD
no no let them have this delusions, this is one of my favourite defence forces on Gaf, if you ignore it it will go away, heck it might even stop existing all together.
AcademicSaucer
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OH America , please teach us all the way into political correctness .
Alx
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so US black people are offended by Germans dressing up in Brazil when playing against Ghaneans... Too bad for them, but the whole world doesn't have to always cater to US feelings.
That guy does not speak for all of America dude.
Phoenician_Viking
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You are too nice to be in this thread lol. Be an asshole and tease the others, a d you will blend in right well.Not sure who to cheer for. I want them both to be happy.
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RedBaron17
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Wow, talk about thread derailment. Black-face talk in a World Cup thread?
So yeah, is CR7 fit to play today?
So yeah, is CR7 fit to play today?
gashikunFLCL
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Just slap "This is NeoGAF" at the end? lol
CelticKnight
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Happened a lot recently. Think a little bit of "football fatigue" is setting in... people aren't happy enough to talk about just the matches anymore.
to make fun of their skin colour? I don't understand, please explain
gundamkyoukai
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Portugal – USA game i hoping for a lot of drama from it .
This WC has been great so far when it comes to that and i hoping for more .
This WC has been great so far when it comes to that and i hoping for more .
I am. I didn't derail it.
Belgium - Russia: I guess Belgium will take this? They didn't look tha timpressiv ein their last game but Russia looked even worse.
South Korea - Algier: zzzzzZZZZzzzz
Portugal - USA: I genuinely don't know. We might get another situation where nothing happens and then a single situation from a player like Ronaldo decides the whole game like with Argentina yesterday.
RedBaron17
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What is that? If anything I'll be suffering from World Cup withdrawl when the tournament is done.
But yeah, you're right. Actual football talk seems to pick up closer to game time in this thread.
immortal-joe
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Zero chance of a Portugal victory.
I really like the quality of this gif/webm
If you're interested in football at the bottom of the Fifa Rankings you should watch the documentary "The Other Final" about a football match organised by a dutch filmmaker between the (at that point) lowest ranked countries Bhutan and Monteserrat.
The match was played on the same day as the 2002 World Cup final between Brazil and Germany and the documentary really shows how sports can bring two different cultures together.
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