Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING

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Yeah, I can buy that it's her if they said it.

That picture of her is old, so of course facial features could have changed in the time.

Also, it's a cartoon. It's kind of hard to differentiate people by faces to begin with.

Honestly, if they said it was a future Asami, I'd buy that too.

TIME BENDING, LET'S GO.
also the weird implications that then mako dated his mom
 
Dust soldier, are you high?

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I also like how the Dai Li were introduced, I was not expecting them to still be around.

I thought it was cool that they still use the grabby hands. Surprised how much I'm liking this season after finding season 2 really disappointing (Besides the Wan episodes of course). Great to see some globetrotting.
 
The guy in the car was Zaheer.

Korra's driving shenanigans made him late to his not going to jail meeting, so they threw him in jail.

Now he must take his revenge out on Korra.
 
Well, a friend of mine informed me that there is a real life event they count base this on. Currently, there are 2 panchen lama's right now. One that's picked by the chinese government, and another one picked by the actual lineage panchen lama has descended from. This happens in other religions too, like the antipope of catholocism.


It might be that Zaheer didn't see Korra as the legitimate avatar. And if nothing else, it turns out that he has had very good cause to believe this. Korra has to be the one though. Not because of her bending, but Aang directly showed up and talked to her at one point.

I think the idea of her not being the legitimate Avatar is interesting. My only issue with there being two Avatar's is Zaheer says "the age of the Avatar is over". I mean..if there is another Avatar (he thinks was wronged), just seems weird to say it that way? I guess. I dunno.
 
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This still was SO good. I got chills when I saw it.

The Dai Li are soooo good. They bring a level of seriousness that regular police obviously couldn't.

I would be ok with the idea of dual benders if it worked similar to the way Wan/Rava or Unalaq/Vatuu did. The spirit would have to be incredibly powerful, but since they aren't on the same level as Rava/Vatuu, they couldn't accommodate 4 types of bending. It would work with the lore they've already established and would allow for some interesting spirits to appear.
 
Zaheer = Jet = Euron = Daario = Benjen

Zaheer just screams air acolyte to me. May have felt wronged somehow by Aang? Or like you guys said, something regarding the White Lotus.
 
They already have a UN. The White Lotus is more liks a conspiracy. A secret or shadowy at least organisation that operates global in the shadows.

I dunno, the White Lotus seem to operate pretty openly. Yes, they cooperate with the highest power-brokers in the United Republic and the Water Tribe, but they don't seem to be calling the shots themselves. They look and act more like a paramilitary organization these days, dedicated to protecting the Avatar. Although, like the Praetorian Guards before them, they seem to have overreached their mandate somewhat. Still, it's a truly bizarre transformation from ATLA, when the White Lotus was a small secret society dedicated to furthering understanding between the Four Nations. Sure, they got involved in the War at the very end, but the new organization is so different that I have to ask why they bothered keeping the name the same. It's not even just that the group's mission has changed; it's membership is very different (skewing younger and military-aged except for senior officers) and their methods of operation are completely different.
 
I dunno, the White Lotus seem to operate pretty openly. Yes, they cooperate with the highest power-brokers in the United Republic and the Water Tribe, but they don't seem to be calling the shots themselves. They look and act more like a paramilitary organization these days, dedicated to protecting the Avatar. Although, like the Praetorian Guards before them, they seem to have overreached their mandate somewhat. Still, it's a truly bizarre transformation from ATLA, when the White Lotus was a small secret society dedicated to furthering understanding between the Four Nations. Sure, they got involved in the War at the very end, but the new organization is so different that I have to ask why they bothered keeping the name the same. It's not even just that the group's mission has changed; it's membership is very different (skewing younger and military-aged except for senior officers) and their methods of operation are completely different.

They've been utter fools this whole series too. Sheltering Korra was the wrong idea, but aside from that, they're just guards who constantly get their asses kicked.

I wish we had a character in there. It'd give us some indication of what their goals are, or atleast assurance that they're still the good guys. The White Lotus is unrecognizable from the days of Iroh.
 
Zaheer = Jet = Euron = Daario = Benjen

Zaheer just screams air acolyte to me. May have felt wronged somehow by Aang? Or like you guys said, something regarding the White Lotus.

They're being super obvious with it it's almost funny. They make a point to show that everyone with sudden airbending is clumsy and bad at it, Bumi who they point out has a little bit of training under his belt AND was Aangs son.

Even Kai who's young and good enough to pickpocket some people and has gotten the hang of it isn't good enough to hold off only 3 Dai Li agents, presumably about the same skill-wise as the White Lotus agents. (I would hope so anyway)

And then there's Zaheer who is just instantly good enough to take down tons of benders all at once, and knows about Air Nomad history enough that he can quote a guru who isn't well known.

In the comic the first 'air acolytes' were fan-girls with arrow tattoos who meant well, but pissed Aang off because only air benders who invent a new technique or master air bending get tattoos. They then pledged themselves to learning the techniques, even if they couldn't air bend.

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I was thinking about this earlier and I don't remember seeing anyone talk about it after season 2, but after Korra wiped out UnaVaatu, doesn't that mean that in 10,000 years (or even sooner since Raava reincarnated like 4 minutes after being destroyed, maybe that was because of harmonic convergence) that Vaatu will actually come out of Raava while she's inside the then-avatar?
 
You can't really use Bumi in that argument. He is the master of Failure Fu, which is a secret art where that only allows you to succeed at something if you have no idea or intention of doing it. This extends to his airbending technique. Watch him bumble through subduing half an army in the next few episodes. So of course he can't airbend. If he could, he knows he might as well not bother, because he wouldn't be able to accomplish anything with it.
 
I will say this for Nick: I am actually kind of glad that they're airing a double episode on the 11th (assuming they actually stick with that plan). Despite all my complaining, I do think that the first three episodes were the best Korra material we've seen since early in Book 1 (whether or not you think Beginnings lives up to the hype, it wasn't really "Korra material"). I'm pretty sure that at least part of this was because I got to see three episodes' worth of material with no waiting. Bryke have talked about wanting to structure the show like premium cable dramas such as Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones, but every episode of GOT is about three times as long as an episode of Korra, once you account for credits and commercial breaks (or the lack thereof on HBO). Having more Korra at once lets more story play out in one sitting, gives us fans more to chew over during the interim, and I think makes the show flow a lot better since it is so not episodic. I actually kind of hope that they keep airing at least two episodes a week, since they clearly don't care about ratings. xP
 
About Mako's mother being the fourth prisoner, I think most of you forgot that Mako told Korra that he saw his parents die when he was 8.

Now, Mako is 19 in season 2 and 3 and that woman prisoner aka
combustion lady/Pe Li
has been imprisoned for 13 years so that means she was sent to the special prison when Mako was 6 making it impossible for her to be his mother, who died two years later.
BUT I wouldn't put it past the writers to make it work somehow, but nah I really doubt it.
 
About Mako's mother being the fourth prisoner, I think most of you forgot that Mako told Korra that he saw his parents die when he was 8.

Now, Mako is 19 in season 2 and 3 and that woman prisoner aka
combustion lady/Pe Li
has been imprisoned for 13 years so that means she was sent to the special prison when Mako was 6 making it impossible for her to be his mother, who died two years later.
BUT I wouldn't put it past the writers to make it work somehow, but nah I really doubt it.

Would be a bad twist either way. I hope they don't go there. Plus it's implied that Zaheer has a thing with her.
 
That's because he resurrected her, frankenstein style. And then made love to her. It's why he was imprisoned.

lol would be some Batman cartoony shit to pull that off. What did she fall into some acid and suddenly get the power to shoot things from her head?
 
I will be very annoyed if the series ends without Korra learning how to metalbend or use lightning. Those seem like generic enough skills at this point that the Avatar would be expected to have them.
 
About Mako's mother being the fourth prisoner, I think most of you forgot that Mako told Korra that he saw his parents die when he was 8.

Now, Mako is 19 in season 2 and 3 and that woman prisoner aka
combustion lady/Pe Li
has been imprisoned for 13 years so that means she was sent to the special prison when Mako was 6 making it impossible for her to be his mother, who died two years later.
BUT I wouldn't put it past the writers to make it work somehow, but nah I really doubt it.

I mean, it would be that she or Zaheer were the ones who killed their father cuz she's actually really evil or something. Or maybe she didn't actually die and just got really hurt and got amnesia and got turned evil, you know, something really stupid.

Either way, with the way their setting up Mako and Bolin's family stuff, it definitely seems like their going the way of her being their mother.
 
Is seriously like the idea of Zaheer being one of the White Lotus. It would make his attack on the Shipprison interesting. The guard immediately recognize him as he turns his face. They didn't expect Zaheer and he was years in prison and weren a disguise that hid his hair. Maybe they were used to see him in this uniform. Also that would explain how he knew where the prisons were.

And I still like the idea of P'Li being Bolins and Makos mother. I don't know why you are so hung up about her being Zaheers girlfriend. People can be unfaithful or just grow to love someone else. I mean, if he isn't your enemy he seems like a decent guy: sophisticated, strong, polite, intelligent and calm. The title of this book is "change". People can change, even if the look graceful in an old picture.

I will probably be disappointed, but I love speculating. I remember that one time when one guy forsaw every twist in Attack on Titan 1 1/2 years beforehand, picking up the correct foreshadowing and details.
 
They've been utter fools this whole series too. Sheltering Korra was the wrong idea, but aside from that, they're just guards who constantly get their asses kicked.

I wish we had a character in there. It'd give us some indication of what their goals are, or atleast assurance that they're still the good guys. The White Lotus is unrecognizable from the days of Iroh.

Yep. I want to see some masters like the ones in the original series.

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I'm assuming these are it, but we haven't seen them since that first episode. I mean, they're building up these new villains a lot, but I'd bet that the old masters from ATLA could stop them pretty easily.
 
God Dayum, there is some great discussion going on this thread. Don't have anything to contribute (as usual), but good read all the same.

I will be very annoyed if the series ends without Korra learning how to metalbend or use lightning. Those seem like generic enough skills at this point that the Avatar would be expected to have them.

Go watch dat trailer.
 
Thanks to you, I just found episode 4 of Book 3 on YouTube.English subtitles, but whatever. :lol

Why are the episodes already in the wild and are there more?

Episodes 3 - 6 are out in the wild because Nick Mexico accidentally put them up as Book 2 episodes on their site
So of course someone noticed and proceeded to rip them, Only catch the episodes are only in Spanish
Probably part of the reason why Nick rushed the Premiere for Book 3 so soon

Which trailer?

This one The Legend of Korra: Book 3 Official Trailer
Specifically around the 1.20 mark
 
Episodes 3 - 6 are out in the wild because Nick Mexico accidentally put them up as Book 2 episodes on their site
So of course someone noticed and proceeded to rip them, Only catch the episodes are only in Spanish
Probably part of the reason why Nick rushed the Premiere for Book 3 so soon

Didn't knew this. That's unfortunate for them, but good for us, I guess. :P

I was already wondering, why people knew more stuff, about the villians. That explains it pretty much.
 
Is seriously like the idea of Zaheer being one of the White Lotus. It would make his attack on the Shipprison interesting. The guard immediately recognize him as he turns his face. They didn't expect Zaheer and he was years in prison and weren a disguise that hid his hair. Maybe they were used to see him in this uniform. Also that would explain how he knew where the prisons were.

And I still like the idea of P'Li being Bolins and Makos mother. I don't know why you are so hung up about her being Zaheers girlfriend. People can be unfaithful or just grow to love someone else. I mean, if he isn't your enemy he seems like a decent guy: sophisticated, strong, polite, intelligent and calm. The title of this book is "change". People can change, even if the look graceful in an old picture.

I will probably be disappointed, but I love speculating. I remember that one time when one guy forsaw every twist in Attack on Titan 1 1/2 years beforehand, picking up the correct foreshadowing and details.

It is bad because it is much too contrived. The writers are already walking a thin line this season when it comes to contrivances.

So far, most of them have been able to justify themselves as they have been mostly in service of artificially maturing the story. P'Li being related to Mako and Bolin adds nothing.
 
Oh this started? Will the episodes availabe on Nick.com like they used to be with Book2?

And were the first episodes any good or should I brace myself for disappointment?
 
Liked the first three episodes. Too bad they introduced yet another couple of bad guys that want to kill the Avatar, much like the previous seasons. Then again, the Avatar has to have someone to fight.

I really feel like I should watch the original Avatar. Too bad that isn't on the Dutch Netflix.
 
Is seriously like the idea of Zaheer being one of the White Lotus. It would make his attack on the Shipprison interesting. The guard immediately recognize him as he turns his face. They didn't expect Zaheer and he was years in prison and weren a disguise that hid his hair. Maybe they were used to see him in this uniform. Also that would explain how he knew where the prisons were.

And I still like the idea of P'Li being Bolins and Makos mother. I don't know why you are so hung up about her being Zaheers girlfriend. People can be unfaithful or just grow to love someone else. I mean, if he isn't your enemy he seems like a decent guy: sophisticated, strong, polite, intelligent and calm. The title of this book is "change". People can change, even if the look graceful in an old picture.

I will probably be disappointed, but I love speculating. I remember that one time when one guy forsaw every twist in Attack on Titan 1 1/2 years beforehand, picking up the correct foreshadowing and details.

Requires a lot of contrivance for it to work though. I mean, someone already did the math (the time Mako's mom died and the time they were jailed, and they would have been in jail already by the time Mako's mom died). So we are supposed to believe an average Fire Bender falls in love with Zaheer, and also magically gains the power to shoot things out of her head, and also gets jailed.

OH and she also faked her death in front of Mako as well...even when they would have already been in jail before she supposedly faked her death and at this time also didn't have the thing on her forehead? Meh.

They could do it, sure. But it would seem goofy/contrived as fuck. I guess I wouldn't put it past these writers to attempt a scooby-dooesqe twist like this but, in terms of fans thinking it's plausible, not buying it.
 
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