So Thor is still technically the "god of thunder" without the Mjolnir? If this new character no longer has the Mjolnir, will she loose her thunder powers?
Thor is now the goddess of Thunder
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So Thor is still technically the "god of thunder" without the Mjolnir? If this new character no longer has the Mjolnir, will she loose her thunder powers?
But you're posting an image of a panel that was written by Hickman not Aaron.
I'm down for twerking Iron Woman.
Isn't Thor a name not a title, though? And haven't they had other people weild Mjolnir like this badass motherfucker?
Have you ever talked to women who watched Avengers?!
Beta Ray Bill only wielded Mjolnir for a very short time (like 5 mins), he has his own unique hammer with the same powers of Mjolnir called Stormbreaker.
ElRenoRaven
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You know I'm all for women superheroes and do agree that they haven't done a great job in that regard but don't change a character just to fucking change them. I'm sorry but Thor is Thor. You can't just go oh no sorry you're not Thor anymore. I'd rather them create a new character who kicks ass and happens to be a woman and Then have her take his hammer.
Hell I'd be totally ok with this if they just did not call her Thor. That simple.
Hell I'd be totally ok with this if they just did not call her Thor. That simple.
This is why it'll all be okay
MHWilliams
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Are you of the mindset that they don't talk at all?
The axe Jarnbjorn was created by Aaron in God of Thunder, but a major plot point of Remender's Uncanny Avengers.
I don't even know what your point is, like Marvel's writer are magical islands unto themselves and don't reference and set up each other.
I'm seeing a lot of this, but I doubt most of the people saying this actually read the comic that says "Thor" on the cover. They can and have said "hey, you're not Thor anymore".
Well, since it's never happened before, it can't ever happen in the future, right?
Logic: spellbinding.
The Smoking Bun
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I actually like boob plates. It's like, "I am a woman and not afraid to show it"
It typically works best with professions associated with masculinity.
Obviously in the real world there is a cost issue so everything has to fit everyone
I could imagine warrior queens with custom armour though
It also makes for easy groping
Parallax
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the women i know dont talk about the avengers sadly
Sho_Nuff82
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I'm imagining this is going to last about 12-18 months like Superior Spider-Man or NWO Red Sting.
WanderingWind
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Thor's continuity is so messed up, but I liked what they had done with Thor since JMS's run and through the recent God Bomb arc. In that continuity Thor is his name and he's a god. I don't particularly find it interesting that it's now (again) apparently a title. I guess you can't have a Thor book without somebody being named Thor, but this is reading like "Bruce Wayne is now a woman, because Bruce Wayne passed on the mantle of Bruce Wayne to Bruce Wayne."
go away
EDIT: and I don't want to hear any "hurr hurr it doesn't matter because she's an invulnerable god" bullshit. practicality is practicality.
There is actually a good reason for this. Sometimes.
Depending on costume, a character design can become devoid of almost all sexual identity. This sounds good in theory, but if the character just ends up looking like a pretty dude, it can alienate the readers whom the character is meant to be identifiable to.
In the long run, 'boob plates'--especially as they are done here--do more good than harm.
I am more annoyed that they could not help but show midriff.
Pai Pai Master
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He is still Thor. But she is somehow also Thor and I'm sure that will be explained in detail when the book comes out. This is Jason Aaron we're talking about, he's not a shitty writer.
No need to discount it outright just because they're not fully explaining what the story is in the initial reveal.
MHWilliams
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It's both. He is Thor Odinson, that cannot be taken away. However the hammer Mjolnir confers the power of the God of Thunder and the mantle of Thor.
And the God-Bomb arc was written by the same guy who's writing this.
Probably. Thor will be back by Avengers Age of Ultron, and this new Thor will probably be given her own title. Marvel has been doing that for a few years now.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Yeah, I think that's what gets me. Why couldn't there just be a new "God of Thunder"? That would make so much more sense
It has happened both ways at least 3 other times I know of.
Bingo. It's a stupid publicity stunt and honestly Marvel has been doing that way to much recently.
They announced this on the View for god's sake. That alone should show how much of a stunt this is.
Sibersk Esto
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There is a good deal of what you described too.
I wonder why they seem to like doing this with their Norse god characters. We already had female Loki...
You think it was a long conversation between Remender and Aaron? Remender probably asked Aaron, "hey can I use this?" and Aaron was like "sure, what're you going to need it for?" Remender: "I'm going to enchant it so it can kill celestials" Aaron: "well there's no celestials in my plans so go right ahead."
And like I said, that picture is 422 years in to the future. Are you reading Avengers?
Why do we only care about "sexual identity" in women's costumes? No one goes over Master Chief's armor and thinks, "hmmmm... not titillating enough."
Parallax
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read three posts and hit my limit
The Smoking Bun
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NOT A SPOILER!! NO SPOILER!! NOT A SPOILER!!
Makes me think of a Game of Thrones style plotline where a female knight is given boob plate armour in a ploy to kill her.
It works better in science fiction though like in Mass Effect where most combat is at range with the occasional omni-blade thrown in
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
That has varied through his history. I acknowledge that others have "taken the mantle of Thor." I'm just saying it's never not sucked. The idea pretty dumb, but that doesn't mean they can't make it work this time. Just doesn't really excite me, especially paired with the tryhard announcement.
On another note, the boob plate sub discussion is funny when it comes to Thor. I mean,
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MHWilliams
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Wrong.
Well that's fine. Either way, they're sticking with the mantle idea.
Wait-- Captain America(n, lol), Iron Man, and Thor are Marvel's "big three?" What? They must be referring to the movies.
Parallax
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nipple guards. god nipples are massive weakspots due to sensitivity
i assume they are referring to the avengers, while spidey is biggest overall
BeatResetsTheWorld
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I guess because the default gender of an armored person is male
Lol, isn't she already omega level when it comes to weather manipulation? This just seems like overkill, but then I remember we're talking about comics here
Honestly I didn't even notice that small little open space below the boob plate before. Previously I saw the big belt and thought, "huh, they covered her stomach!"
I think someone at Marvel editorial really likes the idea that Thor is the Wonder Woman of the Avengers trifecta, and asgard the marvel answer to DC's amazon.
Purple Cheeto
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Rule 63?
The Elite
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I imagine this is a story. Male Thor will probably be back in time beforeAvengers or Thor 3 hit theatres.
Just like Superior Spider-Man, Marvel markets it like its a huge upheaval or permanent change to get readers and then it eventually returns to status quo as events play out.
Nobody cares that she's wielding the hammer, or gains the powers, or has the position.
The name thing is stupid.
Deified Data
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This. Thor is Thor. Why can't a pre-existing female Asgardian like Sif or Valkyrie be deemed worthy of wielding Mjolnir?
I'd also be happy with her being Thor, but genderswapped. Loki did it, so I don't see why Thor couldn't.
It just seems silly that Marvel have two very clearly established ways of doing this and they're gonna ignore both of them.
Wrong.
Eeeeeh sorta. Messier situation as it was Masterson's mind in the body/form of Thor. He was Thor in the same way that Octavius was Peter Parker for a while.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Is that Valkyrie. Why can't they just push Valkyrie?
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