Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one ?
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GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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it needs to be super cheap to me, the only game i still want is killer instinct so to me is a "buying a console for one game" kind of thing
Yeah everyone is different.
I can pretty much be be happy with 3 or 4 exclusives a year provided they have a really good single player experience and lots of support in the DLC areas whether it be added campaign content or improving multiplayer. So if I did get an Xbox One I'd be very content with Sunset Overdrive, KI Season 2, Forza Horizon 2 and Master Chief Collection.
I'm just waiting for higher storage capacity and a bundled game, hopefully the white Sunset Overdrive bundle will be the ticket for me but I can't help but think that a slimmer more streamlined model would do wonders for the system too.
what would it take me to buy an Xbox One
Hmm....honestly?
Being 110% Honest....
The Treyarch Call of Duty that is coming out Next year would have to ONLY be coming out on Xbox One
I fell out of love with halo after Halo 2, so Halo 5 means nothing to me (same goes with MCC)
What other things could happen to make me change my mind.
If, H1Z1 does not come to PS4, and Undead Labs makes a Microsoft Exclusive "World of Decay" (aka open world, Massive Multiplayer version of State of Decay)
If there was a Vampire vs Werewolves game exclusive to xbox one
and....last but not least....
If Bandai Namco only releases "Tales of...." games exclusively on Xbox 1
Hmm....honestly?
Being 110% Honest....
The Treyarch Call of Duty that is coming out Next year would have to ONLY be coming out on Xbox One
I fell out of love with halo after Halo 2, so Halo 5 means nothing to me (same goes with MCC)
What other things could happen to make me change my mind.
If, H1Z1 does not come to PS4, and Undead Labs makes a Microsoft Exclusive "World of Decay" (aka open world, Massive Multiplayer version of State of Decay)
If there was a Vampire vs Werewolves game exclusive to xbox one
and....last but not least....
If Bandai Namco only releases "Tales of...." games exclusively on Xbox 1
CambriaRising
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Not sure, but I haven't seen it yet. I won't be forgetting the events of 2013 for a long time.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
PS4 doesn't do multitasking like the Xbone, nor does it have the same amount of apps available for it, nor does it have the same quality of online (just the voice chat itself is so much better on Xbone in terms of quality), fast game resume, snapping of apps is a revelation (wait until you start farming shit in Destiny, it'll get boring really fast so watching something else on the side will be useful), and the fact that the Xbone has gotten very fast software updates compared to PS4 and will get universal support for windows apps in the future.
I understand superior multi platform games, I'm not stupid, but owing a PS2, Xbox and GC back in the day, I didn't get all multi platform games on Xbox by default, even though they were always superior.
On a computer screen looking at stuff on digital foundry you might see the difference, but on a tv screen it ain't that obvious. For me though it was all about the content, and on that front I always found Microsoft's franchises to be superior to Sony's (only ones I like are uncharted and God of War).
Funny thing though, is why do people compare games like Forza and Driveclub or Halo and Killzone like all it takes is a driving game or a FPS, like it doesn't matter who makes it, as long as it's kind of similar it doesn't matter. IMO, who makes it and the fan following is important, and to me, Killzone is far from being in the same league as Halo. But apparently for some, it's just an FPS, so one or the other, for them it's the same thing. I just can't take that kind of post seriously. I also find MS' games to have better competitive modes and be more played in tournaments compared to Sony's games, so they have longer lasting appeal.
Also, since it seems like almost 80% of people bought a PS4 because it's more powerful (looking at answers), I'd like to know one thing. Honestly, how many people would buy an Xbox Two over a PS5 if they were both the same price but the Xbox Two was more powerful?
HORRORSHØW
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god damn PCXB1FTW is filling up my twitter feed via @NeoGAFShitPosts
It's really hard to paint someone the way you want them to look when you remove all context around anything they say, isn't it?
To answer your question about how I can call that cutesy video misleading; The video was misleading, because it implied that it was easier to share on the playstation than it was to be on the XB1. (no, i'm not interested in debating with you what the share feature was going to be like, before you start in on that). This was false, because I could more simply share with a friend who lives out of state using the XB1 sharing than I could by handing him or mailing him a disc. (nope, zip it. I don't care how you think sharing would have worked, nobody knew.)
Please show me a place where I called someone out for not buying an XB1. I'd like to see that because I don't believe I did. I DID call someone out for saying something retarded along the lines of "i hope the system fails" as I think competition is good for everyone. Hell, I know its been great for me as an XB1 owner because desperate MS has made some really nice moves for me.
I did call out that guy for saying he quoted me when he actually responded not to what I said, but to the words he inserted into what I said on his own. I also called that guy out for yelling at me about RRoD when nobody had mentioned RRoD before he did. (go look back, like youre so fond of doing on me, and see that the guy I said needs to dust never once said RRoD) But again, thats not for not buying an XB1.
I did say generally, that everyone needs to get over the DRM bullshit. But that's not exactly calling someone out is it? I did say its not relevant because it doesnt apply to whats going on now, I know this, because I currently own an XB1 and I can assure you that MS stance has changed. I'm not so sure that your statement about all the wonderful thigns sony did is fact or if its really that they just did more status quo instead of attempting (poorly excuted and poorly explained) innovation.
I don't believe I attempted to represent anything that anyone said as anything other than exactly what they said, I understand quoting, unlike your buddy. I only responded to the words on the screen, not an interpretation of them.
The fact is, I poked at the "is it coming to pc" reason because there are plenty of reasons to not buy a game on pc and choose console, and because it equally applies to the PS4 non-exclusives. I guess that was too much like defending MS to be acceptable to some people.
But yea, I wont back down from using the phrase console warrior, just the sheer attack I've come under since questioning if it really would be better if sony had no competition justfies its use.
TheOctodad
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It's not JUST about power, but depending on the exclusives and other factors, I probably would.
I bought and Xbox OG as my only console that generation because of Halo (I had been following it since Bungie showed it at MacWorld, I was a Marathon fan).
I bought a 360 at launch - only console that generation. It had good games, had power, and was all I wanted.
I bought a PS4 as my only console so far this gen (and also a PS3 because all the PS+ games I was getting made me realize I missed some great games).
I'll buy whatever console offers the best power/gaming experience next time too.
What is your purpose in this thread made for non-XBO owners? I'm not understanding what you're trying to accomplish here.
It's fine to love your XBO and be a happy XBO owner, but why exactly are you in this particular thread asking non-XBO owners if they will eventually get one?
This is a well reasoned and well stated argument for not buying one, and one that doesn't hang on to the DRM grudge which is beyond over.
Also its an argument that makes sense both ways, for example I would buy a PS4 now, but I have no friends with one, I am not interested in any of the games, and I have an expensive auto racing hobby, and an expensive tabletop gaming hobby that demand that money. Maybe someday there will be that one exclusive that I have to have, but i'm not holding my breath.
How so?
Corronchilejano
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I don't buy a gaming machine for the non gaming stuff it can do. I have a PC for that. The multitasking part is a nice addition, but I just don't see much use for it when I literally have 3 laptops around the house, two in my room.
True, however, I noticed one thing from my 360: I pretty much only had shooters. EVERYTHING that wasn't a shooter was superior in the PS3. I never got to play MGS4, Motorstorm, Ni No Kuni. And the shared RPGs were also better on the PS3, almost always getting the better version. Sure, I lose Blue Dragon, but kept everything else. I'm not gonna buy a PS3 yet (maybe next year when I finish my Wii backlog).
Power isn't the issue, but when both consoles give you pretty much the same thing, what else is there to measure? Honestly, the PS4 isn't that convincing either. Maybe in a few years when more varied exclusives are out there can be a definite veridict, but for now, the power of the PS4 and superior ports make it the better version.
And yes, the difference is noticeable for me.
NeoSkyte
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With the cheaper kinectless bundle, removal of Always Online DRM and great selection of available games I'm okay with buying an Xbox One. The thing is I already bought a PS4 so it's kind of too late. Once the Xbox One has some more exclusives that interest me like Sunset Overdrive and Dead Rising 3 that make me feel like buying an Xbox One just for the exclusives. Then I might.
Doctor_Thomas
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Grimløck;124776770 said:
Only reason I am even reading the thread because I have no interest in buying an "xbone" because of how disappointing the 360 became.
There has to be a reason? Um, to converse? And pass the time? To point out ridiculous things like "i hope xbox fails." (i'm not alone in doing so, just alone in being yelled at for it.)
Edit: also, I tried talking about the PC games I like in other threads, but pretty much nobody plays them anymore.
I'm in Denmark and will get one when it's released, but getting me to really invest in the system like I did with 360 last gen wil be difficult this time. I still remember the DRM, Kinect, tv and sports focus, less hardware power at a higher launch price, lousy paywalls on services that the competition provided for free, making life difficult for indies and so on. It doesn't matter that they've changed some of these things to be similar to the competition. The bad memory of them means they'll have to be significantly better, if I'm ever gonna get on that train again.
And they need to get some exclusives - preferably singleplayer games that aren't focused on selling Xbox Live subscriptions - that I won't find anywhere else. I'll wait a couple of years for games like Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break, just to be sure they're not available on another system, which I still believe they'll be.
And they need to get some exclusives - preferably singleplayer games that aren't focused on selling Xbox Live subscriptions - that I won't find anywhere else. I'll wait a couple of years for games like Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break, just to be sure they're not available on another system, which I still believe they'll be.
having owned both systems, I can also say I never turned my xbox one back on after getting my ps4
Booting up the PS4 was more welcoming, plus there was a large selection of games in the store
I think on xbox one, I had the choice of....Hot Shots Golf and Max
where PS4, I turned that puppy on, and I had DC Online, Warframe, ect ect, a lot of choices outside of the multiplatform titles
But to each there own...Xbox One felt bland to me, snapping wasn't something I was impressed by, I don't -need- to play a game and watch tv, I like to focus on just one thing.
Plus, no incorporated DVR features on the xbox one killed that TV aspect for me.
So yeah I'll add that to the list, if they allow me to program my cable boxes dvr through the xbox one, I would move that to the top of my list of complaints I wanted fixed.
Booting up the PS4 was more welcoming, plus there was a large selection of games in the store
I think on xbox one, I had the choice of....Hot Shots Golf and Max
where PS4, I turned that puppy on, and I had DC Online, Warframe, ect ect, a lot of choices outside of the multiplatform titles
But to each there own...Xbox One felt bland to me, snapping wasn't something I was impressed by, I don't -need- to play a game and watch tv, I like to focus on just one thing.
Plus, no incorporated DVR features on the xbox one killed that TV aspect for me.
So yeah I'll add that to the list, if they allow me to program my cable boxes dvr through the xbox one, I would move that to the top of my list of complaints I wanted fixed.
We know they've apparently changed their policies but for many its still a trust issue.
Look at any other platform and you will see similar sentiments for different reasons. People skip on Sony systems due to payment/credit card issues. Other people skip on Nintendo because they don't like the account system. Those are all trust issues, some ongoing, some not that long ago.
Microsoft clearly have a vision of a DRM future, and people don't trust them not to bring it back in the next system. By which time they may already be heavily invested in the MS ecosystem, making it harder to turn around and say 'no' next time.
Trust is very hard to win back, and incredibly easy to lose. I think you are making a mistake in not acknowledging this and telling people effectively to "get over it".
ethomaz
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Yeap... that what I mean... after 2009 the console stopped to receive support.
Well I guess a new Lost Odyssey can make a buy one but I think JRPG devs will support PS4 this gen.
GamingIsDead
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Not much, G27/25 wheel support... but that will never happen.
Doomshroom
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Fuck no, why the hell should i support a company that tries to ruin what enjoy? Speak with your wallet. Besides the DRM is just one of many things.
Windom Earle
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Grimløck;124776770 said:
Not just your Twitter:
Velcro Fly
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Got burned with a RRoD about the time my warranty was up on a 360. So a huge price drop and games I want to play.
I played both of these at E3 and pre-ordered them when I returned. I was very skeptical about Fable Legends and it completely won me over after playing it. And SO was just insane fun, like Jet Set Radio with crazy weapons.
I'm really excited to see Quantum Break on Tuesday.....since Alan Wake was one of my favs from last gen.
@neogafshitposts brought me here, showing just the last line of this post, and I mostly agreed with it (at least Halo 2/3). The first part is just absurd. No one is buying a Wii U for multiplats. I don't give a fuck if I can play Assassin's Creed on my Wii U when Nintendo is putting out their best first party lineup in years. Like, literally all of their games are stellar.
I would rather play just about any Nintendo franchise than the new bastardized version of Halo or other Microsoft's soulless sequels (and I somehow own an XB1).
Yep, like threatening to kick your pets and throw spitballs at you.
I don't really want to get involved in a DRM discussion, because if you think my opinions on this thread are unpopular now... lol. On that topic I will only say that I personally think the interwebs lost it's shit over it before anyone really had a good picture of what was going on, and a lot of noise was made about ownership of games by people who also bragged about how large their steam libraries were, which is funny to me.
I think its pretty clear though that MS has lost their complacency, I'm very excited to see what they do about it. Its why I tore into that guy who said 'i hope xbox fails" because right now I'm reaping the value of competition as my XB1 has gotten better and better since day 1.
That's hilarious to me. /shrug, I guess you'll have that when you have the unpopular opinion.
I enjoy MLB The Show 13. Would like to play it online whenever I want down the road..
Gamerblood
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I bought a Wiiu so x1 being weaker than ps4 I can deal with. My problem is 100% with Microsoft themselves. I've had some growing issues with MS, This last year was the nail in the coffin. I'm not sure what it would take for me to buy a x1.
Well after the poor sales of all those JRPGs on Xbox 360 everyone kind of pulled support. Namco Bandai has no plans to bring any Tales game to Xbox One. If Xbox does get some JRPGs they'll probably be multiplat like KH3 and even then sales will more than favor the PS4 as it always has.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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To be fair, Sony didn't promise these things so Microsoft on the other hand can't sell you a half done promise. That's their vision and it certainly wasn't Sony's.
Your opinions... Can't argue with this.
Sir, why did people buy mostly 360 last gen? It's really simple.
Well this thread sure is something... special
As for an answer? Time, I guess. I like the idea of Sunset Overdrive and Scalebound a lot, but that's pretty much it for me right now. Didn't get a 360 until early 2013 and I'm in no rush to get a Xbone anytime soon. No real price point for me, but rather when I feel like I'll get the most for my money out of it
As for an answer? Time, I guess. I like the idea of Sunset Overdrive and Scalebound a lot, but that's pretty much it for me right now. Didn't get a 360 until early 2013 and I'm in no rush to get a Xbone anytime soon. No real price point for me, but rather when I feel like I'll get the most for my money out of it
Everyone just needs to stop feeding him. He's never gonna acknowledge he's doing/saying anything unreasonable. Responding to him or mentioning him just encourages him to keep posting. Let's all just agree to stop and wait for the inevitable mod intervention.
That was a real shame, in a more ideal world the Tales games would be on more platforms.
Cow Goes Moo
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why is that funny?
BigSoftieFF
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Good point...but it will just add to the persecution complex.
Doctor_Thomas
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Only because Microsoft didn't have a clue what their plan was either. They said it would be possible to do one time trades, but gave no indication of how it would work. Gave vague information on a family plan, with no information how it would work and why it doesn't work without the DRM. It was vague, half-thought out ideas and, when pressed for more information, no one knew what the answers were. People lost their shit because a company the size of Microsoft had planned to make everything much less consumer friendly but had no positives or explanations to offer. They had between reveal and until they reversed the policies to explain, but never did.
BigSoftieFF
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We just weren't ready for the future....right?
Quote
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Microsoft couldn't even paint a picture that we could see for their DRM stuff.
The second part about library bragging is a weird straw man argument I've never heard of.
Yes lets, then he'll stop saying unreasonable things like. "competition makes gaming better for everyone", and "I can report first hand that MS has shed their complacency", and "if you're going to "quote" me, please use the words that I typed" and, "nobody is paying 500 dollars for XB1s anymore." I do like however how when he asked you for specific examples of certain things you accuse him of your next reply was to suggest that everyone stops replying, well played, lol.
muleyman13
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I bought one way earlier than I was originally going to, kinda regret it as I only have a single game for it, but do hope there will be more than a couple of games worth getting (to me) than there are now. Looking forward to hearing any new news on it.
Indeed, it was a mess, MS bungled the hell out of it.
The second part wasn't really something I saw here, but at another place I've been known to comment that was more PC-centric (remember I'm one of those too, despite people's attempts to paint me as completely unreasonable xbox fan) in which people were very much up in arms about "the attack on ownership" that MS launched, but on the same page was a thread calling for people to post how many steam games they "owned", maybe i'm wrong, but I didn't think anyone owned any of the games from steam
Neuromancer
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No, I wouldn't buy a used system. Who knows what the previous owners did with it.
I think it'd be a pretty good deal.
Hey no one said I had to be realistic. OP asked what it would take, and I answered. Microsoft is on my shit list right now.
MrBenchmark
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I got to say following this thread tonight has been very interesting. I see the absolute worst in gaming community in this thread. Does it really matter what you prefer? Play what you want to play. And try to enjoy it if you don't like Xbox then don't play on it. Don't like Sony or Nintendo awesome then same thing goes.
I see almost a gang mentality in some of these responses. Game are supposed to be fun right? I personally like variety so I own ever system then I get to experience everything. Its threads like this that make gamers look quite ridiculous.
I can't believe how people hold grudges its a bad way to live.
I have had to change my financial info due to Sony.
Spent 200 total in out of warranty PS3 repairs.
RROD,YLOD whatever stuff breaks.
Yet still bought a PS4 and Xbox One at launch why? Because I love games.
Just enjoy what you like and don't feel as a gamer or gaffer that you have the right to judge others.
I see almost a gang mentality in some of these responses. Game are supposed to be fun right? I personally like variety so I own ever system then I get to experience everything. Its threads like this that make gamers look quite ridiculous.
I can't believe how people hold grudges its a bad way to live.
I have had to change my financial info due to Sony.
Spent 200 total in out of warranty PS3 repairs.
RROD,YLOD whatever stuff breaks.
Yet still bought a PS4 and Xbox One at launch why? Because I love games.
Just enjoy what you like and don't feel as a gamer or gaffer that you have the right to judge others.
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