Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one ?

zeelman said:
The DRM thing happened a year ago, still being angry about it (or not forgiving them) is holding a grudge. People normally move on after a small amount of time. I was recently pissed off about the lame Club Nintendo Gold and Platinum rewards. I expressed my disapproval of it in my Game & Wario survey and moved on. Hopefully NOA gets the message and things are better next year.
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Lame Club Nintendo Rewards != Attempting to force physical media DRM as a license down everyone's throats and then telling people to buy a 360 if they have an issue with it.

I can't even fathom how you could make that equivocation. Yes people were pissed that Microsoft thought they could get away with stripping away consumer rights and ownership because "consumers don't really pay attention to the details." They will continue to be pissed off if they damn well please to。Just because the company in question got a swift kick in the balls and is now correcting the behavior like a whipped child throwing a temper tantrum ("consumers just weren't ready for our vision") does not make them worthy of our trust. We do not owe them forgiveness. People are entitled to "hold a grudge" should they choose and in this circumstance it seems a damn sight reasonable to do so in the eyes of many. What gives you the right to declare amnesty for Microsoft? You have every right to forgive them and we have every right not to. The fact that so many choose not to should make it obvious that their error was immense in both its scope and its reflections on their intentions as a company. So how about you hop off that high horse and stop acting as if what they tried to do was no big deal.


zeelman said:
Not only that, they won it twice in a row (with the first one being laughable, thanks to the controversy over Mass Effect 3's ending).

Yeah, I think people start to shut up when good exclusive games start coming out for a system. They don't have much to talk about until that happens.
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No, people will "shut up" when we are confident that the company we are being asked to support isn't going to force feed us a heavy diet of DRM and bullshit all the while claiming its good for us. How dare you tell me and others that we are not entitled to our own opinion. Simply because you don't agree with it does not make it any less valid.

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AyaisMUsikWhore said:
It's doesn't matter if it was a year ago, three years ago, etc. People are entitled to there feelings. There are people who will never buy a LG washing machine because their first experience with one is bad. That's reasonable and sound even if they made changes. This isn't life or death where you are required to move on. This is not a real life situation, such as a relationship when it's essential to move on for your health. It's a product you can choice to support or not. And if that reason has to do with business choices that one did not like and do not trust, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't know where this notion came from that you MUST move on and find something else to hate or love rather than the things that you do really hate.

And if there is something that changes people's mind, they will either accept that and go. It's ridiculous that labels are being thrown on people and their feelings because they are not allowed to feel some type of way.
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Thank you for saying what I was trying to say with a much more level head. Well said.
 
Many on this board will probably buy an xbone if MS exits console business for good so it's no longer a competitive threat to their beloved companies.
 
maomao said:
Many on this board will probably buy an xbone if MS exits console business for good so it's no longer a competitive threat to their beloved companies.
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I don't recall Dreamcast getting a sudden spike of fanboy sales from fearful Nintendo and Sony fans. I doubt many are holding their purchase hostage to defeat the Great Demon Xbox. They just don't want it or don't "$400 want" it--that's a pretty big buy in.Hence all the $300 quotes in this thread (and a few $100s...maybe in 10 years)
 
maomao said:
Many on this board will probably buy an xbone if MS exits console business for good so it's no longer a competitive threat to their beloved companies.
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Haha, too true.

Anyway, if i didn't already have a next gen console I would buy an Xbox in a heartbeat for the Halo: MCC. Halo 3 is probably my most favorite Console game so being able to play it again in 1080/60 plus remastered Halo 2 which i havn't played yet is awesome.
 
Microsoft* has it rough with me. I think PlayStation and Xbox are largely the same experience since I'm not into either's first party stuff. Now, PS4 is cheaper, has a better controller (IMO) and is bound to get more Japanese support. Plus I've always owned Sony's systems, so I guess it feels more natural to me eventually getting a PS4.

So basically... well, an incredibly low price and exclusives I just can't afford to skip.

* Well, kinda. PC rocks.
 
$299 , 1080p across the board, exclusives. That's all that's stopping me
 
maomao said:
Many on this board will probably buy an xbone if MS exits console business for good so it's no longer a competitive threat to their beloved companies.
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Being as quite a few of the many seem to be 360 owners who don't want to get an Xbox one, it seems your assumption is flawed.
 
€299 at most. I can't see a reason to own it when I have a ps4. They are too similar.

Now I need the Wii u to get a price cut so it can accompany my ps4. The perfect combo IMO
 
Sir TapTap said:
I don't recall Dreamcast getting a sudden spike of fanboy sales from fearful Nintendo and Sony fans. I doubt many are holding their purchase hostage to defeat the Great Demon Xbox. They just don't want it or don't "$400 want" it--that's a pretty big buy in.Hence all the $300 quotes in this thread (and a few $100s...maybe in 10 years)
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I wonder how much those "$400 want", or 300 quote or the few $100s bought their PS3 and 360 last gen?

I guess the $100 crowd haven't bought either? maybe a Wii?
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
It's doesn't matter if it was a year ago, three years ago, etc. People are entitled to there feelings. There are people who will never buy a LG washing machine because their first experience with one is bad. That's reasonable and sound even if they made changes. This isn't life or death where you are required to move on. This is not a real life situation, such as a relationship when it's essential to move on for your health. It's a product you can choice to support or not. And if that reason has to do with business choices that one did not like and do not trust, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't know where this notion came from that you MUST move on and find something else to hate or love rather than the things that you do really hate.

And if there is something that changes people's mind, they will either accept that and go. It's ridiculous that labels are being thrown on people and their feelings because they are not allowed to feel some type of way.
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Yeah, people are entitled to their feelings and opinions, and I'm entitled to disagree with them and call them out when they go too far. I don't constantly talk about the things I don't like. If someone had a bad experience with something, fine, but we don't need to hear about it all the time.

RexNovis said:
Lame Club Nintendo Rewards != Attempting to force physical media DRM as a license down everyone's throats and then telling people to buy a 360 if they have an issue with it.

I can't even fathom how you could make that equivocation. Yes people were pissed that Microsoft thought they could get away with stripping away consumer rights and ownership because "consumers don't really pay attention to the details." They will continue to be pissed off if they damn well please to。Just because the company in question got a swift kick in the balls and is now correcting the behavior like a whipped child throwing a temper tantrum ("consumers just weren't ready for our vision") does not make them worthy of our trust. We do not owe them forgiveness. People are entitled to "hold a grudge" should they choose and in this circumstance it seems a damn sight reasonable to do so in the eyes of many. What gives you the right to declare amnesty for Microsoft? You have every right to forgive them and we have every right not to. The fact that so many choose not to should make it obvious that their error was immense in both its scope and its reflections on their intentions as a company. So how about you hop off that high horse and stop acting as if what they tried to do was no big deal.

No, people will "shut up" when we are confident that the company we are being asked to support isn't going to force feed us a heavy diet of DRM and bullshit all the while claiming its good for us. How dare you tell me and others that we are not entitled to our own opinion. Simply because you don't agree with it does not make it any less valid.
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I wasn't making an equivocation. I was simply discussing how I react to stupid shit game companies do. I've been playing PC games for years, I know all about the horrors of DRM. I didn't like MS's initial plan for the Xbone, but they changed it. I could see people being angry if MS tried to push a lesser version of it, but it didn't happen. They dumped the entire thing.
 
This is getting out of hand. Just make a poll to paint the bigger picture.

A: No interest whatsoever
B: Waiting for a lower price and more exclusives
C: "Game X" (Halo or GoW I guess)
 
RexNovis said:
Thank you for saying what I was trying to say with a much more level head. Well said.
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Like, I'm not even saying it's not ok to like what you like and let it be, but the DRM scandal wasn't just about taking DRM out and selling the console. It was the fact that they insulted everyone's intelligence and basically told us we don't know what we want and this is the future that we must accept now. There was so many other quotes and things those executives has said and supported (even the ones still there) that I'm sure is mostly the reason why people hold on to the issue.

It's exactly just like the PS3 $599 Scandal when they also did the same thing. It isn't exclusive to a specific console. People will not support something they don't like because of how they feel. Time spans between the events do not matter at all.
 
maomao said:
Many on this board will probably buy an xbone if MS exits console business for good so it's no longer a competitive threat to their beloved companies.
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1. GAF Hivemind
2. Strawman
3. Terrible assumption

Hope it's nominated for NeoGAF shit posts.
 
thekiddfran said:
€299 at most. I can't see a reason to own it when I have a ps4. They are too similar.

Now I need the Wii u to get a price cut so it can accompany my ps4. The perfect combo IMO
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I think it's interesting how Wii360 now has become WiiPS4. Right now I'm playing on PS3, PC and Wii U. IÄll get the PS4 eventually, so it's PCPS4WiiU for me this generation.
 
I already have one, but if I didn't, a redesign would get me to buy one. The console is too big and that's before factoring in the power supply. It runs cool and quiet enough, but it takes up so much room that I don't have in my set up. I'll be getting the redesign day one.
 
zeelman said:
Yeah, people are entitled to their feelings and opinions, and I'm entitled to disagree with them and call them out when they go too far. I don't constantly talk about the things I don't like. If someone had a bad experience with something, fine, but we don't need to hear about it all the time.
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You know what is thread about, right? It's thread with the title "Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one?", it expected to see some people talk about their opinions and feelings about Xbox one and MS, you know why? Because they're relevant to this thread subject.
 
I'm one of those people who will buy a system for a single, exclusive title if it means that much to me. And Quantum Break is that game for me- Remedy and Sam Lake goodness, I love and support their projects on whatever platform they end up on. I'm really excited about Sunset Overdrive in all it's zany splendor, and Forza Horizon 2 looks so peaceful (loveloveloved the first title).

I also refused to buy it with Kinect, and so I was happy that they're selling a new SKU (it felt like it was only a matter of time). I think for the right exclusive games, I will definitely be on board. I hope they do some beautiful orange console in conjunction with Sunset Overdrive, so I'll pick it up. I've been having some problems getting adjusted to the XBO controller too (playing with it for PC titles) so I'm taking it step by step to get ready for the console.

In the same way that I bought nearly all multiplatform titles on the 360 last gen, I'll be doing that for the PS4- the titles are in higher resolution, and most of my gaming friends went with Sony's console this gen. I'll get around to owning both systems, but it's gotta be those exclusives that justify it for me!
 
Greater variety in first-party software. Much cheaper price. No more of the Halo/Forza/Fable/Gears rotation. Halo made the Xbox relevant back in the day, and since then MS has not been able to find any greater reason to own their systems. They just keep going back to the franchise as the console's saving grace.

Mostly though, it doesn't feel like MS is invested in the industry, especially compared to the early years of the 360. But then again, the whole company kind of needs a 'reboot' of sorts. Too much playing follow the leader, and not enough innovation.
 
Nothing. MS showed their hand. They want these anti-consumer policies. They are STILL quoted as saying they are the future and we are just "not yet ready for them". Next box they release will surely attempt them again. I won't buy into that ecosystem.

That said, if I see one for $50 in the far, far future I'll pick it up to see what I missed. Much like I did for the 3DO.
 
RexNovis said:
Lame Club Nintendo Rewards != Attempting to force physical media DRM as a license down everyone's throats and then telling people to buy a 360 if they have an issue with it.

I can't even fathom how you could make that equivocation. Yes people were pissed that Microsoft thought they could get away with stripping away consumer rights and ownership because "consumers don't really pay attention to the details." They will continue to be pissed off if they damn well please to。Just because the company in question got a swift kick in the balls and is now correcting the behavior like a whipped child throwing a temper tantrum ("consumers just weren't ready for our vision") does not make them worthy of our trust. We do not owe them forgiveness. People are entitled to "hold a grudge" should they choose and in this circumstance it seems a damn sight reasonable to do so in the eyes of many. What gives you the right to declare amnesty for Microsoft? You have every right to forgive them and we have every right not to. The fact that so many choose not to should make it obvious that their error was immense in both its scope and its reflections on their intentions as a company. So how about you hop off that high horse and stop acting as if what they tried to do was no big deal.

No, people will "shut up" when we are confident that the company we are being asked to support isn't going to force feed us a heavy diet of DRM and bullshit all the while claiming its good for us. How dare you tell me and others that we are not entitled to our own opinion. Simply because you don't agree with it does not make it any less valid.
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MS never forced anything down anyone's throats. That's the most hilarious part. They revealed their plan for the future and not many people liked it, so they changed. Shocker! You keep hanging on to that contrived anger, though.
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$299. That is what I paid for PS3 after already owning an Xbox 360, and it came with two recent games.
 
Dragon said:
1. GAF Hivemind
2. Strawman
3. Terrible assumption

Hope it's nominated for NeoGAF shit posts.
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no I said many, not "majority" or a certain %, so GAF as a whole isn't represented

anyways, I was half joking

but don't you wonder, looking back at old threads, how many people on this board said they won't buy a xbone unless they
1. remove online DRM
2. removed mandatory kinect and dropped price

MS has done those, I assume that most of those people still haven't bought one, is that a terrible assumption as well?
 
The way these threads whirlwind is old and tired. Brings out the worse in gaming side due to some over the top comments and smoke and mirrors trolling.
 
All they need are some good exclusives and they need them fucking yesterday! Where are the new franchises? Where's the killer app? Because it aint Titanfall I'll tell you that much. MS has been cheap ever since they declared "victory" with the 360 and just stopped investing in new IPs. Well they need to start again and fast because that's the only thing that can save them now, not commercials with Rocky telling us "that's how winning is done." Winning is done by giving a shit about the costumers and truly believing in the product being sold. I want a real reason for having a One and a GREAT game I can't get anywhere else will be the difference maker.

Btw, I own a One but only because I got a really good deal on it. I'm still unsure If I made a good decision. It does feel good to have all the last and current generation systems though, it makes me feel complete.

P.S. As an Alan Wake fan I really hope Quantum Break blows me away but the whole TV show thing makes me nervous that Remedy's biting off more than they can chew. Prove me wrong guys. Please!
 
zeelman said:
Yeah, people are entitled to their feelings and opinions, and I'm entitled to disagree with them and call them out when they go too far. I don't constantly talk about the things I don't like. If someone had a bad experience with something, fine, but we don't need to hear about it all the time.
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Who went too far? It's one thing to disagree by so far everyone who has expressed they don't want an XB1 due to the DRM scandal has been ridiculed as if the DRM scandal was so black and white. It simply wasn't taking one thing out. It was the entire situation. You must have short term memory if you can't remember how that situation was handled from beginning to end.
 
There are two reasons why i don't want a bone:

The way they misread the target audience, delivering a product with such strong domestic focus, and the way they tried to spin and influence the media message to the point of insult shows how far they are really disconnected from the consumer. People like to think that this was all Ballmer and Matrick, but that carefully orchestrated astroturf ploy, their constant shift of tone in the media, there is a whole devision that ran with it.

And now after all the 1080's the message feels fabricated. They are in the business for over 10 years, bur now its all about the gamers huh?


Second of all, and more importantly; i like my games with a dash of japanese titles, and i'm not talking about japanese games that try their best to cater the western gamers aka mgs, resi, and scalebound and the like. Those are te meaningful differentials for me.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
MS never forced anything down anyone's throats. That's the most hilarious part. They revealed their plan for the future and not many people liked it, so they changed. Shocker! You keep hanging on to that contrived anger, though.
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They had absolutely every intention of doing so it was only after the product did not sell that they altered their plans. Then they told everyone "well fine then if you dont want our DRM then you cant have these other cool features we totally didn't make up to gain good will. You guys just aren't ready for our vision of the future yet." Does that sound like a company who changed their way of thinking or their plans? No. Just because they did not go through with market suicide does not excuse them for attempting it in the first place.

And for the record I said "Attempting to force physical media DRM as a license down everyone's throats" which is exactly what they did.
 
I'm getting one to play Scalebound DAY ONE. Got plenty of time to wait and seeing how there's not many exclusive to tide me in for the moment, I can wait for another pricecut.

PS4 is a bit more appealing but not much really seeing how I've got a PC+WiiU+3DS.
 
I honestly don't care about what they said or didn't say regarding the DRM and such before the launch. Nothing of that happened anyway and though I can understand people holding a grudge I honestly can't replicate that feeling. These are companies and brands we're dealing with here. Not relatives.

So to me it's all about the value proposition - yes, I study econ :) - and that's the problem right there. I can't imagine paying 300€-400€ for that machine. Nothing they've announced so far interests me that much (Quantum Break ending up to be a "good" or even a "great" game won't be enough) and looking at their portfolio of IPs, again nothing there. I don't watch TV (I don't even own one of those antennas for free TV), I've got subscriptions for all my entertainment options (Tennis TV, Amazon Prime etc.), I don't live in the US and none of my friends own a Xbox One (although one will get it for the Halo Collection).

The ironic twist about all this is that the PS4 is just as undesirable as the Xbox One right now, but I know this will change with Sony's exclusive IPs and developers. I need to buy the Naughty Dpg console no matter what. I addition to that I'm a PS Plus subscriber for the next 3 years, so the value of the PS4 increases every month. My Xbox Gold subscription elapsed when GwG was still a joke and I hadn't touched my Xbox 360 for over half a year.

So again, I don't know what MS could do right now to make me get a Xbox One. That's ok, I'd rather them release interesting games for people who already own the machine and make them happy first.
 
Maybe if they dropped the price to A$250 w/ a game.

I'm really not a fan of their initial anti-user plans at all and I have no doubt at all that they'll implement some of them later on in the console's cycle. I say this as someone who dislikes the dualshock controller, has over 80 games on 360 and is owner of an OG Xbox aswell...
 
I got a PS4 at launch but I'm just waiting until there is a good Halo MCC offer/bundle and I think I'll bite. Had way too many good times playing co-op/mp in the earlier Halo games (2 especially) to miss out on this.
 
As mainly a PC player: Awesome exclusives, which goes for every consoles.

So far for this gen, only Wii U has met this condition for me (3D World, MK8, W101, DK TF, Pikmin 3).

But Bloodborne will certainly help a lot for PS4, and -- to answer the original question -- Scalebound will help a lot for XB1.

1 or 2 more games of this caliber will push me into buying either one (first).
 
Fracas said:
@neogafshitposts brought me here, showing just the last line of this post, and I mostly agreed with it (at least Halo 2/3). The first part is just absurd. No one is buying a Wii U for multiplats. I don't give a fuck if I can play Assassin's Creed on my Wii U when Nintendo is putting out their best first party lineup in years. Like, literally all of their games are stellar.

I would rather play just about any Nintendo franchise than the new bastardized version of Halo or other Microsoft's soulless sequels (and I somehow own an XB1).
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I was replying to someone saying that they couldn't see how anyone could see more value in an X1 over a Wii U. I pointed out that it doesn't have multiplats and I have no interest in their exclusives, hence the Wii U has very little value for me.

I was being a tad hyperbolic, but I was just responding in kind.
 
I love 360, one of the best console I purchased (and I started with the Atari 2600)
And this was clear for me months before the official launch, this because Microsoft succeeded in creating a very good creative team behind the line: j.Allard, Molyneux, Itagaki, Ed Fries... There's definitely some good brains at work. In the meantime, in the Sony land, Kutaragi play alone with his expensive machine.

Now the situation is reverted. Microsoft still care about X1 only because they are trying to sell the whole division. At Sony, conversely, they rebuild a passionate team, with people like Cerny The Legend and Yoshida. Kaz Hirai, one of the most prominent PlayStation figure has even become the CEO of the entire Sony. It's clear, PlayStation still one of the most important brand for Sony, and as player you can feel it.

Btw, if remedy and horizon 2 delivered, maybe with a little help from Italy stagnation i will buy the X1 next year (I already have a Ps4)
 
I'm easy to get, I usually need two games I really really want to play to persuade me, these have to be no farther away than a year. That's why I always have to buy all consoles anyways...
 
Inceptional said:
All they need are some good exclusives and they need them fucking yesterday! Where are the new franchises? Where's the killer app? Because it aint Titanfall I'll tell you that much. MS has been cheap ever since they declared "victory" with the 360 and just stopped investing in new IPs. Well they need to start again and fast because that's the only thing that can save them now, not commercials with Rocky telling us "that's how winning is done." Winning is done by giving a shit about the costumers and truly believing in the product being sold. I want a real reason for having a One and a GREAT game I can't get anywhere else will be the difference maker.

Btw, I own a One but only because I got a really good deal on it. I'm still unsure If I made a good decision. It does feel good to have all the last and current generation systems though, it makes me feel complete.

P.S. As an Alan Wake fan I really hope Quantum Break blows me away but the whole TV show thing makes me nervous that Remedy's biting off more than they can chew. Prove me wrong guys. Please!
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Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Ryse, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break, Max: Curse of the Brotherhood, Powerstar Golf are all new and exclusive titles they've invested in. Whether they appeal to you is another story, but you can't say they haven't invested in new titles.
 
Something unique that I can't currently do, or that I really really want.

I was going to get a PS4, then I got a PC and put it into Big Picture mode and used Pinnacle Profiller for non controller supported games. I now have more games than I've ever owned on one system and not enough time to play them.

I don't know why I'd even get a console now other than for exclusives. I would LOVE the MCC but I'm happy to wait 2/3 years and hope it comes to PC. At the moment that's it. There are tonnes of other exclusives I want to play (TLoU) but until I've got through my backlog + future non exclusives, I won't be buying one.

So to summarise. A game changer! Something huge that would make it an experience I could not get else where or similar experience i.e. oculus rift, amazing new IP, amazing new peripheral
 
I was going to get an XBO once the next Gears was released, but now I'm not even sure if that'd be enough to make me get one (I was mostly a 360 gamer last gen). I'm very pleased with my current PS4/WiiU setup for this gen.
 
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