Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue
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benjipwns
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Here's a thing with some of the pro-Wilson protesters explaining themselves:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/why-darren-wilson-supporters-are-rallying-in-st-louis
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/why-darren-wilson-supporters-are-rallying-in-st-louis
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thepotatoman
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The weird thing about this is you cannot presume innocence without presuming the other party's guilt. By supporting Wilson's innocence they are supporting Brown's guilt.
Chie Satonaka
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Fucking amazing.
This is seriously making me want to throw things. Wilson deserves to be innocent until proven guilty, but Brown was a thug who got what was coming to him, even though the shooting and the robbery were two seperate incidents.
I want off of this fucking planet.
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thepotatoman
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That would match up with the math of 5 wounds to the front and one wound either to the front or back.
FamousLastX
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Yup, that's what I heard as well.
Saint Gregory
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I obviously super cynical about everything coming from that camp at this point but I can't be the only one that noticed that we heard nothing from anyone trying to explain what happened from the officers point of view until after the private autopsy report was in the media.
It's pretty easy to make evidence support your story when you don't tell it until after you see the evidence.
I'm sure there's a lot more that can be collected from the clothing and street that will provide a clearer picture but I'm still not sure why the several eye witnesses are being ignored. Aren't there at least 4 who all said they saw him with his hands up? Were they all imagining things, all lying or did none of them notice Mike Brown going crazy and charging headlong into bullets?
Nappuccino
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I only count 4 after the pause.
Same. So it's either 10-11 shots.
benjipwns
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Now to tell you the truth I forgot myself in all this excitement.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Fucking.
Amazing.
All of those quotes are fucking Onion-level.
“He deserves to be innocent until proven guilty.” — Sara Wilson
He fucking killed someone. He's guilty of that. Regardless of the nature of the shooting, he fucking killed someone.
“It was derailed with race. Michael Brown could have been white. It didn’t matter, Darren Wilson was doing his job.” — Mary Kourik
He fucking killed someone. It doesn't matter what race. It shouldn't. His job is not to execute people whenever he feels like it.
“It seems kind of one-sided. I mean the other side’s already got him convicted and he hasn’t had a say.” — Louie Puder
I'm sounding like a broken record at this point.
“We’re out here to support Darren Wilson because he don’t have a voice.” — Ed Chambers
The only reason he doesn't have a voice is because he is in fucking hiding. It's not like he's dead. Why are you treating it like he is the one that got killed?
I think I might be hearing an echo for one.
Nappuccino
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Don't you know? When your attorney tells you to shut up and not talk to the media because you shot someone to death, that's exactly like being dead.
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Could be--I'm still uncertain of the total number (that first volley is difficult for me), but the second volley seems pretty clear after listening to it a couple times.
benjipwns
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The police department does seem to have a voice though.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Brings up a good point. The police action speaks volumes as to Wilson's defense.
Angelus Errare
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Times like this...*sigh*
PHOENIXZERO
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Yeah, I had to listen to it twice because the first time I was paying more attention to the dude having a chat with "a friend" that he in no way was paying to be "entertained" by and talking about their videos.
gutter_trash
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''innocent until proven guilty''
oh, the irony
oh, the irony
timetokill
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I counted 6, then 4 or MAYBE 5.
Have they found all of the bullets? Since he appears to have missed several times.
Have they found all of the bullets? Since he appears to have missed several times.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Innocent until proven guilty is something I always believe in and until Wilson is found guilty I won't presume anything. However, something tells me those people are being biased with their use of "innocent until proven guilty" and that's wrong.
It should always be the case. Not just when it suits your interests.
In fairness I will say that some people have already decided Wilson's shooting was unjustified and while it may look one way I don't think we should jump to conclusions until people who have access to all the evidence make a decision.
It should always be the case. Not just when it suits your interests.
In fairness I will say that some people have already decided Wilson's shooting was unjustified and while it may look one way I don't think we should jump to conclusions until people who have access to all the evidence make a decision.
benjipwns
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Wilson needs to be judged by twelve, Brown was carried by six.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I understand the need to be proven guilty.
But right now, actions are speaking louder than words.
Like he was hunting deer.
Its a good thing that guy on the audio was closer to the begging of his "conversation" rather than the ending. Of all the people, doing all the things someone could be doing, it had to be that guy at that moment, doing that.
I can't wait for all of the pieces to officially fall into place concerning what went down for sure. No matter what the 100% truth is, I just want to hear it.
I can't wait for all of the pieces to officially fall into place concerning what went down for sure. No matter what the 100% truth is, I just want to hear it.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Sometimes life is more bizarre than any script ever written.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I used to think the over-the-top events and villains in movies were too much.
Then I got older and realized all those ideas had to come from somewhere.
One they're quite willing to blast through an LRAD, no less!
CountBlack
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Michael Brown's father at his funeral
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How can someone as a father donate to a man for killing another mans son? People protesting for Darren Wilson are so inhumane..
ErasureAcer
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That's like 13-14 shots.
Click the gear icon and slow it to 0.5 speed. It's 6 shots, a pause, and then another 4.
Michael Brown's father at his funeral
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How can someone as a father donate to a man for killing another mans son? People protesting for Darren Wilson are so inhumane..
Heartwrenching. I can't imagine how he must feel. Does anyone know why the media were present at such a private and intimate affair like a funeral?
that picture is so brutal :\
the sorrow and the helplessness and the rage of having your son taken from you like that.
it wasn't private. The whole public was invited. Supporters and anyone else. They put the protest on hold for the memorial service.
everything else has been so public, the world can see this too.
the sorrow and the helplessness and the rage of having your son taken from you like that.
it wasn't private. The whole public was invited. Supporters and anyone else. They put the protest on hold for the memorial service.
everything else has been so public, the world can see this too.
CrimsonCommie
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That's so sad 
why would somebody even take pictures at a funeral?
why would somebody even take pictures at a funeral?That's so sad
at major public event funerals its a common thing, especially when media coverage and public interaction are involved.
edit: just listened to the audio recording of the shooting. they really need to just move things along. I have no confidence in the Ferguson PD, so I'd really like some direct oversight of the investigation. fuck your turf and your rep. Your PD is the refuge of all the law enforcement rejects of the metropolitan area? You don't get the benefit of doubt. Not on a race case when too many of your own officers have racial fuckups on their records.
Who invited them, the Brown family?
It was a public funeral, they didn't need to be invited. Anyone could have shown up.
His expressions just pains me in the saddest way. ;w;
Michael Brown's father at his funeral
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How can someone as a father donate to a man for killing another mans son? People protesting for Darren Wilson are so inhumane..
Is this a common thing in the US? I can't imagine going to such an event, let alone attending it for my son.
well they took donations to afford the funeral, plus they have many unrelated public citizens among the supporters who may want to pay their respects. This is something like a state funeral for a private citizen, instead of lying in state in a government building, the funeral is open for public viewing.
PHOENIXZERO
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What are the odds on if Wilson gets indicted and especially if found guilty those pro-Wilson people will continue to claim he's innocent but was if "victim" of political pressure?
Substantially high, I'd say. :/
If the evidence is completely damning, they'll still say he was afraid for his life and under stress. It depends on what happened during the first few shots. How close they were to each other, whether or not Michael actually even touched him, etc. Right now there's a lot of flack and hearsay, so people really just want to see the facts of the investigation. (contrary to what a lot of people say, this is about justice, not hating on poor innocent police who wouldn't hurt a fly. It looks like a crime has been committed, and we want to see people held responsible.)
The trick is not minding when they do that. It's to be expected that ignorant people stick to their guns no matter how much we expose their ignorance.
What are the odds I'll give a shit? Fuck 'em.
yeah that doesn't sound like a close range scuffle over a firearm, with 5-6 shots being fired immediately. That was the original story.
Then you have Micheal superman punching Officer Wilson through his car window like Goku and running off.
so now what do the friends of Officer Wilson have to say, I wonder?
Punchy4486
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"Wait for the facts."
"Too soon to say. "
"He feared for his life. "
This will change nothing for people that already believe otherwise.
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