Even vanilla Diablo 3 with all its faults and RAH shittiness got 9s and 10s.
This is a massive "critcal bomb" the likes of which I have never seen in my 25 years of actively following videogames.
What is in October?
I'm glad I never got on board the Halo hype train. I never saw what was so special, so I had ZERO expectations for whatever Bungie was going to do next. As a result, I'm enjoying playing Destiny with my friends.
Those of you who heralded Bungie as some god-tier developer are really funny to me.
I actually think someone made this thread yesterday, though the question was a bit more specific: have any current-gen AAA games (not remasters or ports) achieved a 90+ rating on Metacritic yet? I think, unless you include the Wii U--which is perfectly reasonable--the answer is no.
I agree. AAA games just don't get reviewed like this and I've been actively reading game reviews since I subscribed to Nintendo Power as a wee tyke.
Even vanilla Diablo 3 with all its faults and RAH shittiness got 9s and 10s.
This is a massive "critcal bomb" the likes of which I have never seen in my 25 years of actively following videogames.
Ah of course. Forgot about that, hope it isn't lost in the pack,The Evil Within of course![]()
Diablo is an established and immensely popular franchise though. But yes, I agree about Destiny part.
Can we keep this dumb sense of entitlement to the DF thread where it belongs?So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
But, I want to know your opinion, owners of PS4... Do you think that this is fair with us?
When a game is released on PC, I can run it at 120 fps if my machine allows.
why do we need to pay by the weakest platforms?
Telling what like it is? Their opinion?Pretty sure people are referring to major sites giving bullshit high scores to AAA titles with no merit. Like the 9.8 for Halo 4. Since Gamespot gave out a 6 it showed that they're more interested in telling it the way it is.
Um, you have no idea what the term "critical bomb" means if you're applying it to this game.
It's averaging 7's and 8's. Have you even bothered to READ the reviews, or are numbers just that attractive to you?
The critics are simply saying that it's a well-built shooter with solid mechanics, but it's not revolutionary and doesn't provide any real depth, in it's current form. They're also giving it credit for being fun to play with friends, and also tipping their hat to the PvP. Currently, it's a lukewarm reception, at worst. It's certainly not getting trashed.
I'm not defending the flaws the game has, because there are certainly many...but people need to get a clue when it comes to reviews and review scores.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
But, I want to know your opinion, owners of PS4... Do you think that this is fair with us?
When a game is released on PC, I can run it at 120 fps if my machine allows.
why do we need to pay by the weakest platforms?
I'm glad I never got on board the Halo hype train. I never saw what was so special, so I had ZERO expectations for whatever Bungie was going to do next. As a result, I'm enjoying playing Destiny with my friends.
Those of you who heralded Bungie as some god-tier developer are really funny to me.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
But, I want to know your opinion, owners of PS4... Do you think that this is fair with us?
When a game is released on PC, I can run it at 120 fps if my machine allows.
why do we need to pay by the weakest platforms?
How many heavily marketed AAA games recently have you seen outside the 7-10 range? Assassins Creed 3 had a metacritic in the 80s and Watchdogs was easily better received than this. The only AAAish release that scored this badly recently was Thief and that was a much smaller game than Destiny. I've read both the Polygon and Gamespot reviews and I totally agree with what they wrote. At the end of the day a score is just a subjective number based on the reviewer's preferences. My personal score would be a 5/10 because the PvP is good and the production values are off the charts but I'm more of a campaign/SP gamer and Destiny is a total disaster in those areas.
I only played the beta, but these points ring very true to me, as does the Gamespot review. But the bolded bit especially, the lack of rewarding exploration was so goddamn disappointing. Sad to see the main game is as underwhelming as the beta was. Oh well...My score would be a 5/10 at best. Not a happy chappy owning the digital CE.
- Poor AI
- Terrible attempt of a story; hampered by exposition style
- Ultra repetitive mission design
- No characterisation; all the NPCs in the tower are completely one-dimensional and add absolutely nothing
- Completely non-social unless you are in a fireteam of friends, in which case you could be playing any game and get the same experience
- Loading times are fucking atrocious
- Limited customisation, mostly meaningless cosmetic stuff and fails hard at even that
- No reason at all to explore the barren levels; there is literally nothing to discover, its clinically sterile
It has some solid points, music, graphics are nice, spawning a sparrow anywere to zoom off to your destination is very cool, PvP is decent fun.
But damn is it a disappointment everywhere it counts.
Reads like they are in a rock and a hard place and buying time.IGN's review may not go up until after Vault of Glass:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/13/destiny-review-in-progress-discussion-day-4
Other interesting quotes:
Edit: Vince Ingenito is doing the review btw.
Honestly I wouldn't say it had 'huge potential' either. AC did something no other game was doing before, it was a true 'next-gen' game that demanded attention. Destiny is nothing like that, it's doing more of what other games have already done. There's potential to get better sure, but it'll always be pretty uninteresting to me.
And the long stretches of vast emptiness that are only meant to be filler excuses for you to use your speeder bike are very curious, as well. Makes the game feel really lifeless and empty.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
But, I want to know your opinion, owners of PS4... Do you think that this is fair with us?
When a game is released on PC, I can run it at 120 fps if my machine allows.
why do we need to pay by the weakest platforms?
And if someone gave it a 9/10 it somehow isn't? A lower score is more honest because you agree with it?
Er...
"Tom WarrenVerified account ‏@tomwarren
Interesting that Sony has backed two totally meh games with the PS4: Destiny and Watchdogs"
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/510618697636270080
...what.
Ps4 owner and I don't care.So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
But, I want to know your opinion, owners of PS4... Do you think that this is fair with us?
When a game is released on PC, I can run it at 120 fps if my machine allows.
why do we need to pay by the weakest platforms?
Lol both of those games will be multi million sellers.
So normally with reviews like this, that would be a "wait till it's cheaper" game, but with this one it may be different as you also don't want to wait for the online community to dwindle, right? Hmm.
Telling what like it is? Their opinion?
People criticize when reviewers give lower scores to games that are widely acclaimed. I just don't see how a 9/10 is less honest than a 6/10.
Gosh, I thought I made my viewpoint quite clear.
I feel like Gamespot gave a fair review, not because of the score, but because there is no benefit to scoring the game 6/10 other than being honest to your impressions. Simply put, I am praising what I perceive to be an honest review.
There are many reasons why a reviewer might give a triple-A, heavily marketed game a favorable 9/10 review just because of what it is, and not because of their experience with it. That doesn't mean it's every review, just that I can't be certain, especially if it the contents of the review itself aren't convincing.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
Most of us also probably expected Watch_Dogs to be a bit of a let down and it seems Ubisoft's cozier with Sony in general anyway. Exclusive content was a thing for the AC games too, even with the first looking like an exclusive initially.If Sony actually made those games, he might actually have had a point.
But they didn't.
So he doesn't.
Yeah, that doesn't mean it's BAD out and out, but the higher expectations are the bigger the letdown when it doesn't deliver, and this is probably going to stand as one of the more extreme examples pending updates. And it doesn't even have the licensed name or unproven developer angles behind it!Guys....
A Triple A game with this much hype, this much time sinked into it, and this much fan interest, getting these low scores is absolutely a bomb. I can't recall the last time a game with this much hype was this mediocre. And don't give me Aliens Colonial Marines. I didn't even know that game existed until a day before it released.
Lol both of those games will be multi million sellers.
I don't think you really need to worry about this. The game has sold very well, and will continue to sell as the game goes down in price. As long as you buy it in the next 9 months you should be fine.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
Gosh, I thought I made my viewpoint quite clear.
I feel like Gamespot gave a fair review, not because of the score, but because there is no benefit to scoring the game 6/10 other than being honest to your impressions. Simply put, I am praising what I perceive to be an honest review.
There are many reasons why a reviewer might give a triple-A, heavily marketed game a favorable 9/10 review just because of what it is, and not because of their experience with it. That doesn't mean it's every review, just that I can't be certain, especially if it the contents of the review itself aren't convincing.
Why? I didn't say Gamestop should give the game a 9/10.Watch the Gamespot review and tell me a 9/10 would be honest for that review.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
The hunt for an amazing new gen new ip continues?
"Tom WarrenVerified account ‏@tomwarren
Interesting that Sony has backed two totally meh games with the PS4: Destiny and Watchdogs"
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/510618697636270080
...what.
The general masses who bought into this game may move on in a couple of months if the content is lacking now. If there is nothing to keep them there they will be gone far sooner than 9 months.
Guys....
A Triple A game with this much hype, this much time sinked into it, and this much fan interest, getting these low scores is absolutely a bomb. I can't recall the last time a game with this much hype was this mediocre. And don't give me Aliens Colonial Marines. I didn't even know that game existed until a day before it released.
an unprecedented letdown? were you in tears?I was able to return the game to GameStop for full price, even though it was opened. I told the manager on duty that the game is an unprecedented let down and that I doubt I will be the only one to return it.
I expected trade in, but got 65 bucks back on my card.Only caveat was that I had to have my receipt, which I still had in my car.
Denver, CO.
I think praising a review because you agree with it is fine. What I took issue with was you generalizing, in this case, that a more negative review is somehow less honest than a more positive one.
The "Alpha" (lets be real, it was a beta) was incredibly boring and mundane, not at all surprised at the reviews.
It's pretty clear there was a lot of internal strife at Bungie over the development of this game.
I mean look at Bungie after Halo Reach and after Destiny. By the end of development we have Joe Staten gone, Marty gone. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting.
So, today I saw a article (Digital Foundry), where they say that the Xbox One version of Destiny is running almost identical to PS4 version, both at 30 fps. So, the obvious question...
Why Destiny on PS4 isn't running with better fps? 45fps? 60fps? Because it's pretty obvious for everyone that the PS4 has a considerable advantage in terms of horsepower.
It's easy to understand that Bungie searched for the parity between the platforms, mainly regarding to FPS.
I have such a hankering for Phantasy Star Online now. Is it even possible to play?
I need to find a time warp to 2001.
What is in October?