LiquidMetal14
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In a way, you're saying that marketing and hype machine would or should affect the scoring of said title? That's beyond wrong and why I use my own mind to determine things.
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After Destiny, do you trust the games media more?
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I never really understood this. Imo the hype for Destiny was no where near Titanfall or Watch Dogs. And up until the alpha/beta the majority of the "hype" was non existent. I remember so many people saying how boring it looked, etc.
And I never completely trust reviewers. What's fun for me might not be fun for them.
not_so_special
Banned
im enjoying destiny a lot..mm its the game a turd or something like that? i dont care about reviews
SerTapTap
Member
...why would I? There is extremely light criticism considering the circumstances.
IMO Destiny is exactly the sort of situation that should be a bloodbath by the games media--a MASSIVE amount of money was spent on an okay game that was hyped to hell, actively misrepresented (It can stand with Star Wars! Shared World! You can climb that mountain™!), then review copies are sent a day in advance of official launch and most places didn't have reviews for three days AFTER launch. Meanwhile due to the beta we KNEW the shared world added almost nothing, so it was a complete bullshit reason not to let reviewers in.
It made $500 million in INITIAL SHIPMENTS before a single review launched. This is everything wrong with AAA game development in one package. This is not okay and I am very disappointed I am not currently reading an article about what rotten shit transpired here.
IMO Destiny is exactly the sort of situation that should be a bloodbath by the games media--a MASSIVE amount of money was spent on an okay game that was hyped to hell, actively misrepresented (It can stand with Star Wars! Shared World! You can climb that mountain™!), then review copies are sent a day in advance of official launch and most places didn't have reviews for three days AFTER launch. Meanwhile due to the beta we KNEW the shared world added almost nothing, so it was a complete bullshit reason not to let reviewers in.
It made $500 million in INITIAL SHIPMENTS before a single review launched. This is everything wrong with AAA game development in one package. This is not okay and I am very disappointed I am not currently reading an article about what rotten shit transpired here.
dark_inferno
Member
For an industry were critics say to Nintendo that they should do something new and innovative and also giving the most "innovative" game ever made a 7/10... yeah i trust them more than ever.
I trust gamers who arent overhyped and arent paid by ads from the games on their websites.
Bluekaveli
Member
I only buy games I am interested in. I couldn't care less about what a review throws around.
michaelius
Banned
No I trust them even less.
I've played beta and it didn't feel like 6/10 game at all but I'm giving them tiny benefit of doubt till I play full version - maybe then I'll see those fun killing things that turned this game into Duke Nukem equvalent in eyes of reviewers.
I've played beta and it didn't feel like 6/10 game at all but I'm giving them tiny benefit of doubt till I play full version - maybe then I'll see those fun killing things that turned this game into Duke Nukem equvalent in eyes of reviewers.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I am happy for you that you are enjoying it.
entremet
Member
People say they don't trust reviews, they do.
I remember the hype for Haze and then the game bombed with the games media. Most ignored that after that.
Destiny, being online only, having an extensive preview to users, sheltered itself from the review influence. They made the users the reviewers with their approach.
I remember the hype for Haze and then the game bombed with the games media. Most ignored that after that.
Destiny, being online only, having an extensive preview to users, sheltered itself from the review influence. They made the users the reviewers with their approach.
fastballspecial
Member
I think it's cool that reviewers really are being upfront about their critiques of the game. I'm loving it a lot and while I'm not letting low review scores deter me in any way from playing it, I can really see all their complaints are valid and might be huge letdowns to some people.
March of the Crabs
Member
I'm LOVING Destiny and am completely underwhelmed by most of the games that games media loves to jerk off (Titanfall, TLOU, GTA V) so uh... no.
shinobi602
Member
A large amount of these outlets were confused as to what the game actually was if you were paying attention to previews.
Nope, I find reviewers just as random as always. Im enjoying destiny, alot.
I think alot of reviewers are missing the point.
Its a co-op focused, shooter. Designed for repeat play, self contained sessions.
I mean im not even takihg notice of the story, as far as shooters go....there is nothing else like it out there in terms of a set of very fun co-op vs the ai rounds.
Its got great mechanics.
I think alot of reviewers are missing the point.
Its a co-op focused, shooter. Designed for repeat play, self contained sessions.
I mean im not even takihg notice of the story, as far as shooters go....there is nothing else like it out there in terms of a set of very fun co-op vs the ai rounds.
Its got great mechanics.
Storm Raider
Banned
Trust?
Destiny is everything I expected it to be, and it's an amazing game to me.
Just because a lot of people got hyped up and had their expectations a little too high, doesn't mean that the media lied lol.
Destiny is everything I expected it to be, and it's an amazing game to me.
Just because a lot of people got hyped up and had their expectations a little too high, doesn't mean that the media lied lol.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Never trusted them before and still don't. I've always relied on self reviews to play the game. I think that reviews, especially media hype should be taken at a medium level. I will never understand people who get caught up in the hype. I guess I could understand it from a huge loved franchise, but for new ones... There should be a lot more scrutiny than blind faith.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I will be impressed when they stop putting numbers in their reviews to represent the quality of the game.
I don't understand this rally to hate Destiny. Don't like something? Fine. But you're not going to make me feel duped or whatever agenda is trying to be pushed here for enjoying myself. If anything I feel like reviews were much more critical than they should be. I've been having a blast since the alpha, and the main game is more of that goodness. I can't wait to see where this IP goes in the future.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
No difference. I don't get why people think destiny was this huge hyped up game. It's enthusiasm seemed totally created from the players experiences with the alpha/beta, not from media outlets. Sure it had its features but thats any major publisher flagship game.
I also think game reviewers and players were affected more from not having to have the review out prior to the games release. Maybe it relaxed some reviewers, they weren't rushed or had the usual outside pressures. And for gamers the ones that normally rage aren't because they have the product so they either don't care Or can see the reviewers perspective since they're playing it too versus just seeing hype videos and whatnot.
My vote would be to not have game reviews until after a week a game is out for all games. The diehards will buy it day one, the rest will likely get better perspectives of the products, and for more online only games you avoid the Bf4 situations.
I also think game reviewers and players were affected more from not having to have the review out prior to the games release. Maybe it relaxed some reviewers, they weren't rushed or had the usual outside pressures. And for gamers the ones that normally rage aren't because they have the product so they either don't care Or can see the reviewers perspective since they're playing it too versus just seeing hype videos and whatnot.
My vote would be to not have game reviews until after a week a game is out for all games. The diehards will buy it day one, the rest will likely get better perspectives of the products, and for more online only games you avoid the Bf4 situations.
UltraMagnanimous
Member
No way.
Games reviews/reviewers are basically pointless these days.
Games reviews/reviewers are basically pointless these days.
Yeah it is strange, usually there a month or two before the backlash threads.
LordBaztion
Member
I think I only read a piece about Destiny pre open beta. I bought the game beacuse of the beta and I'm having the same experience. So far I'm fine and having fun with friends. The problem is that some of them are too high and kinda breaks the experience. That didn't happen in the beta but I should have adverted.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You got it.
rbanke
Member
Trust isn't really part of the equation with games media for me. To me the games media's only purposes are entertainment, opinion pieces, and supportive information. The closest trust relationship I can find is that I trust the screenshots, videos and facts they are presenting are not manipulated from the source, and that is no more or less than before.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
No because the same games media gave the game "over 180 awards and nominations" At least that's what Activision plastered on the cover next to the rating.
I don't get why this is a thing. Find a few writers to whom you either trust or share opinions with and go from there. I don't see why anyone cares about what every review for a game is. There's no one I follow at IGN or Polygon, I don't care if they review a game I don't like as high as they want.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
Hell yeah
It's because at it's core it's a competitive shooter with RPG elements, and not an RPG with shooter elements. RPG/MMO fans won't stop crying about it.
Astral Dog
Member
NO, but i dont get why they suddenly started to review games lower when almost anything AAA last gen was the best thing ever.
Not remotely. It just implies an unbelievable lack of consistency. Let's see how the next few months go. Is this a new norm? I doubt it. So far this is just a single case where the media, as a whole, seem to have decided that it's okay to shit on a big release.
The media have hyped this game up and are now slaughtering it because it failed to live up to the ridiculous hype. Because I did my research on the game, and played a lot of the beta, I knew what I was getting into and I'm happy with what I have got. I'm not going to call it a 9/10 or 10/10 game, because, at least so far, it isn't. At the same time, in a world where the unbelievably limited Titanfall gets ~85 on metacritic, this is no 6.
The media have hyped this game up and are now slaughtering it because it failed to live up to the ridiculous hype. Because I did my research on the game, and played a lot of the beta, I knew what I was getting into and I'm happy with what I have got. I'm not going to call it a 9/10 or 10/10 game, because, at least so far, it isn't. At the same time, in a world where the unbelievably limited Titanfall gets ~85 on metacritic, this is no 6.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't think it is just me... at least all my friends are.
But well most of my friends are Warframe's friends... so we already expected Destiny to be that great and the game delivered even more (like it the is the best loot system I already see in a game).
PS. I took the day off from work yesterday just because I could stop to play the game... thanks God I have a flexible job