WordAssassin
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Guys he had a sword. Swords are metallic. He was running away sure, but he was giving the cops a dehumanizing stare in the reflection of the sword.
Utah police shoot black man "lunging" w/ sword. Witnesses, autopsy say shot in back
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Didn't Utah just get done shooting someone in the back?
Right here:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u-s-world/utah-police-fatally-shoot-man-outside-7-eleven
Man, slow down, Utah cops. Take a drive over to Colorado, get some weed, and chill out, man.
Right here:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u-s-world/utah-police-fatally-shoot-man-outside-7-eleven
Man, slow down, Utah cops. Take a drive over to Colorado, get some weed, and chill out, man.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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So is this happening everyday? How long until there is going to be a really big riot?
Being a colored man in USA must really suck.
Meanwhile in europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61s62WKVio
Being a colored man in USA must really suck.
Meanwhile in europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61s62WKVio
The Tofunator
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Imagine if someone reversed the last three letters of NeoGAF and you'll find it pretty quickly.
Corronchilejano
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Schattenjäger;130070126 said:
Why are you ignoring the witness accounts?
They'd probably like to know if the guy was threatening others, and whether the police knew the sword was a replica when they shot. They're probably giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were trying to protect the public.
But dem dudes shot him in the back and then lied about it, so I say fuck em.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
I haven't read any witness accounts or statements from any witnesses to ignore
Only a statement from the family's lawyer
Can you provide any detail on witness accounts?
Monocle
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It is a documented fact that Blacks and all other members of the Colored Races are practitioners of the Urban Arts, the source of their deadly powers. Honed in the ghettos of America, these eldritch practices grant them a potent dehumanizing stare, and enable them to physically close a gap of up to 35 yards in the blink of an eye to shatter the skull of a hapless officer with fists specially evolved to crush Caucasian bones. Observe:
(Note: The image takes some artistic liberty by failing to portray the assailant as a Black.)
If the violent Colored American happens to be carrying a bladed weapon, his deadly potential is immeasurable and swift defensive action is advised.
(Note: The image takes some artistic liberty by failing to portray the assailant as a Black.)
If the violent Colored American happens to be carrying a bladed weapon, his deadly potential is immeasurable and swift defensive action is advised.
Corronchilejano
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Schattenjäger;130075682 said:
Just because WE don't have them doesn't mean they do not exist. The very same reason why the report was not given to the LA Times or why the police refuses to provide information about ongoing investigations: They are ongoing investigations.
Why do you feel the need to talk about completely made up scenarios (cops in a pincer formation around the suspect) that aren't mentioned in the police report?
Here, just in case you forgot you can actually google your cases:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/blog/201...h-man-carrying-a-sword-but-they-wont-say-why/
There you can find more direct information about eyewitness accounts.
If anyone read the OP it should be clear as day that those cops aren't deserving of any benefit.
Playing devil's advocate is worthless in and of itself, but doing it in this particular case just makes you look like a fool.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Those eyewitness accounts in the article you posted do not validate anything in the OP.. They all happened beforehand .
I did google and did not find any eyewitness accounts of the actual shooting
There is no police report yet .. And yes there are ongoing investigations .. That's my point .. Let them continue before jumping to conclusions ..it's still too early for anything at this point.. But it seems everyone here has already made up their mind based on a lawyers statement
The best we can do is discuss made up scenarios until more information is released.. This includes eyewitness accounts
Corronchilejano
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Schattenjäger;130076636 said:
You know, I had to check your post history to make sure my following statement is as accurate as possible:
You are a person not worth responding to.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
You must have ultra quick post history checking skills...
It is a documented fact that Blacks and all other members of the Colored Races are practitioners of the Urban Arts, the source of their deadly powers. Honed in the ghettos of America, these eldritch practices grant them a potent dehumanizing stare, and enable them to physically close a gap of up to 35 yards in the blink of an eye to shatter the skull of a hapless officer with fists specially evolved to crush Caucasian bones. Observe:
(Note: The image takes some artistic liberty by failing to portray the assailant as a Black.)
If the violent Colored American happens to be carrying a bladed weapon, his deadly potential is immeasurable and swift defensive action is advised.
Truly the power of aggressive step requires immediate, heavy response.
Black Republican
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Prototype Viktor
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they heard that putting your hands up makes you look like a threat and they didn't want that to happen because then the military shows up
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Cops have always been racist. Now people are actually speaking out, looking into them, and getting them caught.
These pretty consistent reactions around the Internet where people need more proof and disbelieve that there's something going on reminds me of the R Kelly case.
Professor Beef
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That could've been anyone's dick between his legs.
SapientWolf
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I think the caller tainted the water here, just like the Wal-Mart case. It would have taken a ten second conversation with the man to get the facts here, but they called it in as if there was a crazed swordsman was terrorizing the block. It's not going to take much for things to go downhill after that.
No it isn't worthless because there are multiple ways people can be motivated to do something even if the outcome is the same. That's why I used to play devil's advocate. I haven't done that because of some people (like a few in this thread ) who ignore facts to get an alternative motivation.
It isn't worth it having an intelligent discussion when they shit up threads with their nonsense.
soundahfekz
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Sho_Nuff82
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Goddamnit I didn't want to laugh at this thread.
Need info on:
Who called the police?
Why a sword?
Did they actually try to deescalate or identify?
How could anyone get something as obvious as a front/back shooting wrong in an autopsy?
Tim the Wiz
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The world is more transparent due to technological change. What was easier to deny before (systemic discrimination, corruption, etc.) is harder to do so now.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
That is both slanderous and not true at all
But I guess anyone who just wants a full investigation before accusing is a racist here to some of you
Heck even the family's lawyer mentions the full investigation needs to still take place
soundahfekz
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Schattenjäger;130092707 said:
just like that thread you created titled "Pregnant woman Victim of Knockout Game" When the actual news story did not refer to any knockout game?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=875396 mods had to change the title
Knockout game is known as dogwhistle racism and completely unfounded.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/11/25/why_the_knockout_game_trend_is_a_myth.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/12/local/la-me-ln-knockout-game-faux-media-trend-20131211
Wonder where you got that from?
You can't help yourself though. I'm just waiting on the inevitable Reddit rant at this point.
EastOfEden
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No, this is just... what the fuck is happening?! How many racist killings by police have happened in America over the past few months? Seriously, this is horrendous I don't understand
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
I myself asked the mods to change the title .. My source called it knockout game
Maybe you should retread that thread in its entirety
soundahfekz
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Schattenjäger;130095224 said:
I was in the motherfucking thread. Your second 'source' after you edited the original post referred to it as a knockout game. The knockout title came from you.
TheChocolateWar
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It isn't necessarily an issue of racist cop killings, but straight up cop killings. I picked up the local newspaper yesterday and a caucasian male was shot in the back while he was running away from the police, unarmed. Why hasn't that been given national attention? There is general police incompetence, but only some situations are given light to create a false narrative.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Yes and that was before I knew that it had any connection to race.. Heck we were still discussing it and even brought up cases involving white assailants..
If you like we can continue that discussion in that thread
Foxy Fox 39
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months?
soundahfekz
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Schattenjäger;130097291 said:
Everyone knows about you at this point dude, I don't know why you even waste the energy
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
That's a cop out bro ..
We here for discussions ..
All I said was that there needs to be a full investigation.. I don't know how anyone can be so final in their judgement on the cops based on one statement by the family's lawyer
Just asking for me details .. That's all
More_Badass
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Don't underestimate a black man with a sword
Okay, on a serious note, how stupid are these cops? The physical evidence is going to contradict their story in a heartbeat as it did here. It's not like shots from the back are going to be confused with gunshot wounds suffered while lunging to attack. It's just ridiculous to lie about that, when the actual evidence so blatantly disproves that version of events
Okay, on a serious note, how stupid are these cops? The physical evidence is going to contradict their story in a heartbeat as it did here. It's not like shots from the back are going to be confused with gunshot wounds suffered while lunging to attack. It's just ridiculous to lie about that, when the actual evidence so blatantly disproves that version of events
It is a documented fact that Blacks and all other members of the Colored Races are practitioners of the Urban Arts, the source of their deadly powers. Honed in the ghettos of America, these eldritch practices grant them a potent dehumanizing stare, and enable them to physically close a gap of up to 35 yards in the blink of an eye to shatter the skull of a hapless officer with fists specially evolved to crush Caucasian bones. Observe:
(Note: The image takes some artistic liberty by failing to portray the assailant as a Black.)
If the violent Colored American happens to be carrying a bladed weapon, his deadly potential is immeasurable and swift defensive action is advised.
EastOfEden
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I know it's been happening forever, but it seems like there's been an explosion of cases just in the past few months. Maybe it's just that the media is reporting it better now or something?
Wow that's horrible... And there certainly should be a huge backlash for each and every police brutality case. But, I still definitely think it is a race issue - I could be wrong but isn't there a disproportionate amount of black men being killed by police? Also, I'd hardly attribute the killer police officers' actions to just "incompetence", although it's probably also a factor.
Well the news media thrives on ratings/clicks so if this attention brings in eyeballs they'll keep on covering it. My only reservation about that is that usually when these stories break it isn't from the more prominent outlets in the first place.
Gordon Shumway
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Was he waring one of these?
This is fucked up in so many levels, seriously, what the heck is wrong with the police in America? I am planning spent some time of my vacations there, but this is scaring the shit out of me, I already got enough shit from the cops in my country I don't want to spend thousands of dollars just to get shot for being black.
This is fucked up in so many levels, seriously, what the heck is wrong with the police in America? I am planning spent some time of my vacations there, but this is scaring the shit out of me, I already got enough shit from the cops in my country I don't want to spend thousands of dollars just to get shot for being black.
Vigilant Walrus
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He could have been lunging forward like
"don't do this Anakin... I have the high ground"
There is nothing wrong with wanting evidence of racism. You have to zoom out to see racism but even then it's just a pattern without any individual evidence. This idea that you don't need evidence but "come on, it's racism dude, just look at the situation" is more troubling.
I don't doubt there are racist people who are using the "need more evidence" as a way to hide their bigoted ways but that's probably true for police officers as well: majority of "racist" cops are power hungry instead of racist.
The information about this is all scattered everywhere, it's difficult to get a complete picture.
Reading other articles the sword was a gift he had at home, his mother thought he took it with him that day to impress the Panda Express where he was going to apply for a job.
He was walking through the town with it strapped to his back, some people said he looked calm others said he look frightened. A member of the public who saw him called the police. He wasn't waving the sword around or anything.
Witnesses said they saw the police talking to him initially, it appeared calm. One even took a photo with the police standing with him, he didn't have the sword out at that point.
The mother said the information she had was in this confrontation one shot was fired, she didn't know if it hit her son or not, then he ran away and was fired on repeatedly.
Witnesses so far didn't see that confrontation but one did see the initial stop, then hear a gunshot and see him runoff, with what appeared to be the sword drawn from its scabbard. There's not many articles detailing the witnesses though.
http://fox13now.com/2014/09/11/family-of-man-fatally-shot-by-police-looking-for-answers/
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