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[Skilletor]

Because the anime is behind the manga and if you read the latest chapter and still like Sasuke you obviously arent someone who cares about plot or character development, it just was terrible

I'd say if you're still reading naruto after 15 years, you don't care about plot or character development. Which is true for me. Definitely couldn't care less about the character development or plot in a shonen manga. I watch and read strictly for the fights.

On topic: Don't get the thematic issues. That's like saying WuTai and Midgar look out of place because they're completely different. In context, it will be fine.

 

[Nightengale]

That's the issue. It feels strange seeing something that has almost no fantasy spin on it, inside a fantasy setting.

It's like seeing a modern tank in a Medieval fantasy story. It stands out. However, if we were to take the idea of a tank, and make it medieval thematically, then it wouldn't feel so jarring.

Do you feel that places like the Vatican City is thematically incompatible with the rest of the world because the Swiss Guard wears differently from conventional military dress?

The assumption that FF needs to be 'medieval' just because it's fantasy is simply one perspective. I would think of XV more of a "what if the exact world we're living in is populated with magic and giant monsters?"

I don't think we'll somehow lose the cities of New York, Beijing and London and suddenly they're transformed into medieval cities with castles. Cultural development is what determines the structure and visual image of modern society. Fantasy is just one subset of a culture in that different world, and fantasy does not equate to medieval/fantasy style.

 

[silva1991]

2 million views in 2 days wow!

 

[cackhyena]

You go from Tokyo to an untamed fantasy wilderness. It's supposed to look strange.

I think his issue is it's supposed to be some different future Tokyo. So a car looking like something we'd drive today doesn't go far enough. It's not the monsters and vehicles clashing, it's the modernity of the vehicle. I can see that. Like I said, not a big deal to me, but I can see it.

 

[Mr. RHC]

Give it a shot.
.

You said FFVII is cyberpunk in a cyberpunk world, well guess what:

Noctis and his "K-Pop entourage" driving a super modern car in a super rural area. There's at least one big modern city, and some nations might not be as advanced.
Heck, advanced cities and technology has been a theme in this series for so long now, this is the least unfitting thing.

There's also plenty of roads, as we can see in the trailer, this is not just some high fantasy setting with random hi-tech machinery, this is a modern world with fantastical creatures, always been always will be.

 

[hohoXD123]

My point isn't that there shouldn't be motor vehicles in the game, it's how out of place they are in the environment.

Cloud drives a cyberpunk motorcycle in a cyberpunk city. The small truck is used for work in a small village.

The protagonist and his k-pop entourage drive a fucking Audi and fight giant dinosaurs. It doesn't fit thematically. Feels like a mish-mash.

The entirety of FFVII wasn't cyberpunk. Cloud goes around in a submarine, plane and airship in a world consisting of ancient beasts, tribal villages, pterodactyls, giant fish etc. Diversity and contrasts in themes aren't exactly new concepts to FF so I don't really see why people are pointing this out now after all of these years.

 

[muteki]

My point isn't that there shouldn't be motor vehicles in the game, it's how out of place they are in the environment.

Cloud drives a cyberpunk motorcycle in a cyberpunk city. The small truck is used for work in a small village.

The protagonist and his k-pop entourage drive a fucking Audi and fight giant dinosaurs. It doesn't fit thematically. Feels like a mish-mash.

This world has seen both dinosaurs and Audi's, the only difference is time.

Obviously FFXV involves time compression.

 

[Phades]

The car isn't the issue. The problem is the car's look. It looks like a luxury sedan you'd see in a commercial. There's nothing fantastical about it, and it looks strange next to the incredibly fantastical monsters.

Royalty wouldn't have access to top of the line luxury, whatever that standard is for the setting?

This world has seen both dinosaurs and Audi's, the only difference is time.

Obviously FFXV involves time compression.

Invoking FF8 i see.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Give it a shot.





That's the issue. It feels strange seeing something that has almost no fantasy spin on it, inside a fantasy setting.

It's like seeing a modern tank in a Medieval fantasy story. It stands out. However, if we were to take the idea of a tank, and make it medieval thematically, then it wouldn't feel so jarring.

Those on the trailer are creatures. If they are dinossaur-like or not, it doesnt matter. Its a fictional fantasy world, theres no problem on it! The game setting is a mix between modern and medieval, Im pretty sure they did it on purpose! Actually many Final Fantasy games do it pretty clearly (FFXII for example had a Star Wars vibe with medieval settings). If you dont like it, ok, but dont try to turn it into a problem of "bad art direction" because its not.

Also, dont judge a book by the cover. You cant just say,"oh, cars and dinlssaurs! That dont make sense even for a fantasy world!". Try to understand what theyre creating and what is going on there. The same goes to the group of boys... Im pretty sure that the existance of this group will be explained!

 

[yencid]

The car isn't the issue. The problem is the car's look. It looks like a luxury sedan you'd see in a commercial. There's nothing fantastical about it, and it looks strange next to the incredibly fantastical monsters.

Why cant it be both? Just like in the real world depending on where you go in the world you will see different things. They live in a city, with cars and many realistic things. They drive out of the city, a road trip and they see animals. Big ass fantastical animals.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

The car isn't the issue. The problem is the car's look. It looks like a luxury sedan you'd see in a commercial. There's nothing fantastical about it, and it looks strange next to the incredibly fantastical monsters.

I mean it's fitting he's the prince and it's in a modern setting(FF take on the modern setting) I don't expect him driving Anything less than an expensive car.

 

[StuBurns]

The car isn't the issue. The problem is the car's look. It looks like a luxury sedan you'd see in a commercial. There's nothing fantastical about it, and it looks strange next to the incredibly fantastical monsters.

Really?

I've never seen a car like that.

 

[Blablurn]

The more I watch it the more I wanna play it. Just give me good gameplay and a simple yet interesting story.

 

[silva1991]

Quick someone put Noctis taking out Lightning with the bottle.

LOL


poor Lightning

 

[muteki]

Aesthetically it looks like Winhill, but yeah, I don't know the actual area.

Only available in debug/not released:http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Laguna_Loire

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Really?

I've never seen a car like that.

Royce rolls/Audi influences I dig it.

 

[yencid]

It may also be the fact that i have been following this game for so long but this whole mix of fantasy and reality isnt new to the game. But its the first time i have seen so many comments on it.

Hell the whole "a fantasy based on reality" is what i think of when i see these things together.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

Really?

I've never seen a car like that.

honestly, given the design of the characters I think they would look more ridiculous riding chocobos

 

[hohoXD123]

LOL


poor Lightning

Na, meant to be the other way around. FFXV cancelled, FFXIII-4 is coming.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

honestly, given the design of the characters I think they would look more ridiculous riding chocobos

Well chocobos are apart of the game Nomura has stated, so that going to be quite intesresting lol photo mode please SE

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Lol @ people who think FFVII is wholly cyberpunk. I guess you never made it out of Midgar? That's the only "cyberpunk" location in the entirety of the game. Everything else ranges from modern - ancient.

There's only been 2 "cyberpunk" FFs and one of them takes place post-cyberpunk (FFX). FFXIII has been the only true cyberpunk FF. The rest are modern (FFVII, FFVIII, and now FFXV) and medival/classic steampunk (everything else).

 

[Nightengale]

honestly, given the design of the characters I think they would look more ridiculous riding chocobos

Chocobos would be the equivalent of horses/elephant in a Final Fantasy world. The beastback that you ride up the rough mountain terrains, or where vehicles don't work.

 

[Falk]

Really?

I've never seen a car like that.

Come to think of it, that car plus Nomura batman go well together.

Someone get with the shoop.

 

[Kagari]

2 million views in 2 days wow!

This is what happens when you don't show anything for 15 months.

 

[Philippo]

It's like they don't have a cohesive vision for the game world, or any sense of artistic direction. You have NSync riding around in their shiny vehicle driving on pristine highway roads with no evidence of other traffic while giant dinosaurs and other crazy things are casually strolling about. They hop out to fight enemies in medieval-themed armor which might be cool if it were a steampunk setting or something, but there's no evidence of that kind of thing anywhere else.

Usually you have an art director or whatever that has full control of making sure the visuals are thematically consistent. This game is all over the place. It's like there's no one in the team saying, "no, you can't add that into the game because it doesn't make sense". Considering the absurd development time and SE's desperation to just get a product released, maybe they don't even care anymore.

Not only it seems you really haven't played any FF before, but sure as hell you didn't even tried to do a little research about the this game itself. Because if you did, you'd have found how well XV's world aestethics makes sense with what has been said by Nomura through the years.

It's like those who says "this fantasy based on reality sux!" without realizing that the quote refers both to the aesthetics and the plot itself.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

This is what happens when you don't show anything for 15 months.

I smell a brilliant new marketing strategy!

Spoiler

Please don't read this, SE reps

 

[Kagari]

I smell a brilliant new marketing strategy!

Spoiler

Please don't read this, SE reps

FWIW Nomura had prepared things for major events since E3 2013. :<

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

This is what happens when you don't show anything for 15 months.

Now another 15 months of b-roll footage from the trailer and vague statements from Tabata and Hashimoto!

 

[TheJollyCorner]

The car isn't the issue. The problem is the car's look. It looks like a luxury sedan you'd see in a commercial. There's nothing fantastical about it, and it looks strange next to the incredibly fantastical monsters.

just wait until the car transforms into Bahamut!!!
Toriyama Approved!

 

[Frumix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt-rqmqVRuM

So good

 

[Hades Hotgun]

On the subject of theme, I remember my favorite part of the 2013 E3 trailer was the very end where Noctis is hiding in a very modern and realistic looking parking garage. Then you see a behemoth walking around, clearly hunting him.

It was a great way of expressing the theme of the game. A collision of the 'real' world with the fantastical and iconic elements of the series. A world where you drive across the country in a luxury sedan, and suddenly see a giant adamantoise cruising around.

Now this theme won't appeal to everyone, ofcourse, but I already dig it a lot more than FF13's world.

 

[Ishida]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt-rqmqVRuM

So good

It's great, but I seriously need a recreation of the second tune in the trailer.

 

[Frumix]

It's great, but I seriously need a recreation of the second tune in the trailer.

The uploader said it's coming.

 

[Cloud Strife]

Pleeeeease bring back this theme for XV!

 

[Nightengale]

It's only at 200k-ish views at the JP SE Youtube. Still some ways to go!

FWIW Nomura had prepared things for major events since E3 2013. :<

... But they weren't showcased because... reasons?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

just wait until the car transforms into Bahamut Lightning!!!
Toriyama Approved!

Fixed

 

[fuzzyreactor]

On the subject of theme, I remember my favorite part of the 2013 E3 trailer was the very end where Noctis is hiding in a very modern and realistic looking parking garage. Then you see a behemoth walking around, clearly hunting him.

It was a great way of expressing the theme of the game. A collision of the 'real' world with the fantastical and iconic elements of the series. A world where you drive across the country in a luxury sedan, and suddenly see a giant adamantoise cruising around.

Now this theme won't appeal to everyone, ofcourse, but I already dig it a lot more than FF13's world.

Im with you there. Hated the theme in FF13 and didnt care for it in FF10 either.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Now another 15 months of b-roll footage from the trailer and vague statements from Tabata and Hashimoto!

Well we got info from famitsu next week, demo in march and I'm sure release date at e3-2015 the road ahead doesn't seem so bad.

 

[Squire]

FWIW Nomura had prepared things for major events since E3 2013. :<

Oh? Perhaps they actually will show it off regularly from now on. Nomura said they would after that E3 and... yeah.

Dare I hold out hope for Jump Festa?

 

[Deleted member 20920]

Not necessarily, they were talking about Noctis's dad still being fine, that doesn't exclude Lucis getting attacked.

What we know so far, assuming all lore stays consistent:
- Lucis gets attacked
- Noctis meets Stella at the gallery
- Accordo gets attacked
- Noctis's dad is at Accordo

There's a few possibilities, but I can see the following being the opening of the game...

- Noctis's dad is away at Accordo for negotiations, Noctis is back home holding the fort.
- Home gets attacked
- Noctis fails to protect home, runs away with his bros.
- Drives to Accordo to tell dad about the attack
- Accordo gets attacked

Alternatively is...

- Game starts at Accordo
- Accordo gets attacked.
- Noctis goes back to protect crystals.
- Failed to prevent the invasion, runs away with his bros.

These are possible scenarios too. I like the possibility that Noctis' dad could be away from home during the invasion.

 

[Kagari]

Oh? Perhaps they actually will show it off regularly from now on. Nomura said they would after that E3 and... yeah.

Dare I hold out hope for Jump Festa?

I could see them showing off more of the demo. They did the same thing for FF13's demo after it was announced and ahead of its March release.

 

[Kagari]

It's only at 200k-ish views at the JP SE Youtube. Still some ways to go!



... But they weren't showcased because... reasons?

Development has not been smooth. Not smooth at all.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Oh? Perhaps they actually will show it off regularly from now on. Nomura said they would after that E3 and... yeah.

Dare I hold out hope for Jump Festa?

Hmm a demo snippet perhaps? But it's a sure thing after type-0 releases.

Sales will be higher thanks to the inclusion of the demo it's a win win scenario for SE atm

 

[TheJollyCorner]

after being in awe of Leviathan, I can't wait to see how crazy some of the other summons turn out.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

after being in awe of Leviathan, I can't wait to see how crazy some of the other summons turn out.

Hmm I'm still debating how the summons will be handled it's either one if these scenarios:

A) ala kingdom heart
B) they manifested in weapons

Boss battles will be epic I'm sure of that.

 

[ZenTzen]

I've probably played through VIII ten times since its release, I don't recognize that location at all.

thats cut content from the game, there was a page on the interwebz, showing all that stuff

 

[QuantumZebra]

On the subject of theme, I remember my favorite part of the 2013 E3 trailer was the very end where Noctis is hiding in a very modern and realistic looking parking garage. Then you see a behemoth walking around, clearly hunting him.

It was a great way of expressing the theme of the game. A collision of the 'real' world with the fantastical and iconic elements of the series. A world where you drive across the country in a luxury sedan, and suddenly see a giant adamantoise cruising around.

Now this theme won't appeal to everyone, ofcourse, but I already dig it a lot more than FF13's world.

Dude... the world in XV is closer than XIII than any other game. Even the combat reeks of XIII.

Now I liked XIII don't get me wrong - but there are very similar elements.

My whole thing is - if Noctis' boy band are the only playable characters - I'm out.

 

[JCreasy]

I'm not. The car is horribly juxtaposed to the fantastical creatures they're fighting.

I actually think the juxtaposition is what makes the imagery most compelling. I'm more intrigued than I've ever been in Final Fantasy. The juxtaposition is what's most interesting.

 

[Death Penalty]

after being in awe of Leviathan, I can't wait to see how crazy some of the other summons turn out.

Ditto. How are we going to summon something of that size is my question? With the size of the outdoor maps- and the adamantoise illustrates this well- I could see it. But in areas like the goblin cave...? Hm. I really hope we summon the actual beasts but I have no idea how.

 

[Squire]

I could see them showing off more of the demo. They did the same thing for FF13's demo after it was announced and ahead of its March release.

That's what I'm expecting, yeah. I mean, now that they've committed to having the demo up day/date with Type-0, I can't see why they wouldn't.

Hmm a demo snippet perhaps? But it's a sure thing after type-0 releases.

Sales will be higher thanks to the inclusion of the demo it's a win win scenario for SE atm

Indeed.