COMICS! |OT| September 2014. Means well, but is easily distracted and can get lost.

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Jedeye Sniv said:
I'll give you the same advice I give all newbies - do not buy tie in issues/series. They are for the most part just cash grabs. I never read any of them for Original Sin and I didn't feel the need for them at all. The same goes for pretty much every event I can think of.

Also FYI, event books like Original Sin are often not the best comics (although I really enjoyed OS myself, many didn't). IMO you'd be far better off reading a more self contained series that is it's own thing. For me, The current Avengers run is a fantastic event book that is much more self contained and coherent.

And of course, all just my opinion and I definitely spent the first few years if my comics career only reading big event books. Bit I was also a super easily impressed kid :P
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Yea I have heard that the events are generally poor. I just wanted to quickly read through them so I have an overall idea what is going on in the MU. I have an Unlimited subscription so it's no big deal hammering them out.

Thanks for the advice on the current Avengers run though, will get on that.
 
Emma, Storm and Rachel would all fit on the illuminati but you know how well the x-office plays well with others.

But Bendis obviously wants them all on the x-books for whatever reason.
 
I wanna see Rogue on the Illumanti just so I can read her struggling to keep up

"Uh sorry y'all but I don't get any of this mess. Mama told me I ain't no bookworm"
 
Beast is enough though (even though he is really just a token mutant). At this point the majority of the team are made up of Marvels top brains (minus doom). On top of that Beast as least has history with most of the team due to his time as an avenger.
 
Oh god. Somebody take away my card. Straight up Cheska-ing today

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Zeus Molecules said:
Beast is enough though (even though he is really just a token mutant). At this point the majority of the team are made up of Marvels top brains (minus doom). On top of that Beast as least has history with most of the team due to his time as an avenger.
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I think he makes a lot of sense. As you say, he's a science guy plus I don't think that Scott is as good at playing with non mutants as he is.
 
Peter parker is a genius, but I really don't think he woudd even fit in with all these amoral brainiacs.

Beast has committed genocide multiple times so hes cool
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
I think he makes a lot of sense. As you say, he's a science guy plus I don't think that Scott is as good at playing with non mutants as he is.
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ViewtifulJC said:
Peter parker is a genius, but I really don't think he woudd even fit in with all these amoral brainiacs.

Beast has committed genocide multiple times so hes cool
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Basically. Also to be honest besides standing their grimacing, Beast hasn't done or said shit throughout the whole new avengers run. He's just been a roleplayer going with the flow.

Scott would of probably went on strike the second he realized one of those world's had a living jean. As for Peter he would of had to be removed just like cap was because he has to much of a good soul to commit genocide.
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
Actually Emma would be cool on either team. She could go diamond whenever they need to blow up an earth, turn her emotions off. Could maaaayyyyybe replace Black Panther with Shuri?
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Shuris too busy with wakanda. It would make her look like a hypocrite
 
Kipp said:
MK is pretty fun and has a lot of dark humor. It's very similar in tone to Preacher. MK is probably my favorite Ennis Punisher stuff.
MAX on the other hand is just pure serious. The stories are really great, but it's very dark. Not dark humor like MK, just dark.
I loved both of the runs, but MK is probably my favorite since I usually prefer fun over serious. I'd guess you would prefer MK as well since you love Preacher, but I still definitely recommend both.

Also, it doesn't matter at all which order you read MK and MAX. They're 100% separate and have absolutely no bearing on each other.

I would probably start with Welcome Back, Frank since it's excellent and totally self-contained. It's one of my favorite arcs of anything.


So yeah, in summary, I'd suggest starting with Welcome Back, Frank, and then just buy the first volume from whichever run you'd like and go from there.
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frye said:
You could just read the Max stuff, there's a pretty huge tonal shift that came with the ability to do more stuff. Besides, Welcome Back Frank hasn't aged that well.
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Coriolanus said:
Do not skip on Ennis's Fury Max either. Best left for after he's done with Punisher Max.
Tbh ennis's Fury is a mildly friendlier Castle.
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Good to know that Max is a lot more serious, because now I'm definitely inching more towards the MK stuff. The dark humor is what I loved about Preacher. If MK is like that, I'll definitely be reading that first. Damn, why did I hesitate when that omnibus came out.

The MK trades are hard to find online it seems, especially Welcome Back Frank, but I'll get them.

Thanks for the helpful replies guys.
 
Coriolanus said:
And this is different from the way most of the prima donnas in that all boys club behave.... how, exactly?
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he would have been the first to go. although they couldnt pull the trigger, they at least seem resolved to stick around to see what would happen. i cant give spock the benefit of that doubt
 
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Gary Whitta is writing a film adaptation for Millar's Starlight?
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Peter would have tried to put the other world on his shoulders and lift it the other way
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That would have been interesting to see, but I think ultimately he would have wound up like Cap. Peter just doesn't have it in him to do what the Illuminati have done. He'd probably have lasted longer, but no way he'd be ok with all these planet destroying weapons. That said he'd have been a bit more genre savvy when it comes to Black Swan, so who knows. It would make a cool "What if" story.

Coriolanus said:
SpOck woulda fitted like a good glove, tho. Alas.
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That shit's too real for SpOck. He'd have bolted or done something stupid and made it worse thinking he could fix it alone.
 
B-Dubs said:
That shit's too real for SpOck. He'd have bolted or done something stupid and made it worse thinking he could fix it alone.
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Again, bolted to where? The way the event is set up, escaping its grasp is not an option.

Made it worse? Sure. Then again, we talking about the geniuses that dissed Vic, captured Nega-Terrax because reasons, and decided to put a Thanosicle in the same room as two cosmic threats.

Otto is, however, more likely to seek outside help when he realizes he is not, in fact, capable of handling it. Oh hey, that's exactly what the idiots have been reluctant to do.
 
Coriolanus said:
Again, bolted to where? The way the event is set up, escaping its grasp is not an option.

Made it worse? Sure. Then again, we talking about the geniuses that dissed Vic, captured Nega-Terrax because reasons, and decided to put a Thanosicle in the same room as two cosmic threats.

Otto is, however, more likely to seek outside help when he realizes he is not, in fact, capable of handling it. Oh hey, that's exactly what the idiots have been reluctant to do.
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He's more likely to try solving it himself and wind up speeding it up or something worse. Honestly, he'd probably have wound up teaming up with Namor and going rogue.

Who would he go to for help? The guy was a long wolf the whole series outside of finally giving Peter back control when he realized that he couldn't do what needed to be done when it came to saving Anna Maria.
 
B-Dubs said:
He's more likely to try solving it himself and wind up speeding it up or something worse. Honestly, he'd probably have wound up teaming up with Namor and going rogue.

Who would he go to for help? The guy was a long wolf the whole series outside of finally giving Peter back control when he realized that he couldn't do what needed to be done when it came to saving Anna Maria.
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You seem to be operating on the assumption that i'm defending that otto would help solve the incursion. No, i'm defending that'd he'd fit right along with the rest of the prima donnas.

Like i said, he'd fit like a glove. Because he's an arrogant asswaffle that is often in way over his head. Just like them.

Otto also fanboyed like cray over the blue marvel and ended up respecting the guy from the underground med clinic, for what it's worth.
For the Anna Maria example, the illuminati equivalent would have been Reed going to Victor and saying "i fucked up and kinda sorta have a conscience, so i can't properly deal with this. halp plz". That's exactly the opposite of what Reed did. With Stephen's backing.
 
Kipp said:
I totally love that Batman. Excellent job.

In answer to your question, I'd probably say as long as you're drawing something you enjoy (AKA something that ends up looking cool and unique), there'll be an audience for it. There are fans of every character.
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Thanks for the input, Kipp. It's not original, but I love drawing Spider-Man, so I'll be doing Miles Morales Spider-Man.

KoruptData said:
Groot was real big at a recent con I went too.
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Then there was groot.

tim1138 said:
That Batman is sweet.
I always like to see stuff like the Rocketeer or Iron Giant over whatever character is trendy at the moment, it sets you apart. Really though, just draw whatever you dig, there's bound to be an audience for it.
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Ooh I love the Iron Giant. There's really quite a few characters I'd enjoy drawing. Deciding is the hard part!


Messi said:
Can't go wrong with Harley Quinn

Hipster Batgirl , Groot or Spider-Gwen are all hot right now.

Great art by the way.
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Thanks for suggestions. I really like the new Batgirl costume so that'll be one.


Freezasaurus said:
Listen to Messi. He's got his fingers on the pulse of the industry.
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Who wouldn't listen to best soccer player in the world?

I'll post some of the artwork here when I finish them up. Hopefully I'll have time to scan them in rather than just take a cell phone pic of them
 
Creamium said:
Good to know that Max is a lot more serious, because now I'm definitely inching more towards the MK stuff. The dark humor is what I loved about Preacher. If MK is like that, I'll definitely be reading that first. Damn, why did I hesitate when that omnibus came out.

The MK trades are hard to find online it seems, especially Welcome Back Frank, but I'll get them.

Thanks for the helpful replies guys.
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I'd recommend grabbing Welcome Back, Frank and the first OHC of the Punisher MAX run used at GoHastings (plus there's an additional 25% off today).
The main reason I'm also recommending the first OHC of Punisher MAX is because it's in stock and really cheap and there's basically a flat shipping fee on GoHastings, so might as well buy both at once. Also, even though it's listed as used, chances are it'll come shrinkwrapped; I ordered the same book from GoHastings and it was shrinkwrapped and perfectly new.
 
B-Dubs said:
He's more likely to try solving it himself and wind up speeding it up or something worse. Honestly, he'd probably have wound up teaming up with Namor and going rogue.

Who would he go to for help? The guy was a long wolf the whole series outside of finally giving Peter back control when he realized that he couldn't do what needed to be done when it came to saving Anna Maria.
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Not exactly true. Remember it was Otto who first thought up coordinating his activities with police, and dispatching them to problem spots. Pete literally said "why didn't I ever think to do that?"

Escalating things from there, Otto hired his own army to take down shadowland then patrol the city. simply a more efficient way of getting things done. It was also his idea to round up every other spider man he could find in spider verse to stop Karn and set a trap for him.

Otto is fine working in a team as long as he's the one calling the shots on it, because he has a superiority/inferiority complex. I can't see him happily taking orders from stark or reed though.
 
Just seen this posted on reddit

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Was this Claremont? I get it with the context, not to judge etc but that would never fly today ha ha
 
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