drotahorror
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Considering there's no minimum requirements (pretty common to have) I get the feeling this is the only PC they had to test the game with (recommended requirements).
Evil Within System & Hard Disk Requirements (PC/Consoles), strongly suggests 4GB VRAM
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KainXVIII
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2 millions out of 100? Not bad if you ask me!
DarkLordMalik
Member
If only real life worked like that.
I wish The Evil Within success, I just hope that these requirements don't make it a hard sell on the PC.
Shadow of Mordor doesn't have high recommended specs man, the 6GB of VRAM is for very high textures. The game seems to scale well on paper at least.
TEW on the other hand seems to require (as in mandatory) 4 GB of VRAM to be playable, according to the bethesda rep.
There's a big difference.
RAGE was 25GB.
JonathanPower
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Especially considering the game uses black bars.
JimmyRustler
Member
Wait... 4GB of VRAM.... Meaning that amount the new GTX 980 has? What is this? A bad joke?
Well that 4GB is scarier than anything I've seen from the game! My trusty old GTX 570 is most likely 1GB... lol. I've been happily managing with the same PC, with no component upgrades, for 2-3 years now, and it's been so perfectly stable (for like the first time ever) that I've not wanted to mess with it!
If The Evil Within turns out as awesome as I hope it will, I wont mind upgrading for it. However it does worry me a bit, as the game doesn't really look all that special. Don't get me wrong I do love the environments, atmosphere and lighting, but I'm just surprised that there's a chance it might chew up my PC and spit it out.
Also the 50GB(41GB) will make my SSDs suffer
If The Evil Within turns out as awesome as I hope it will, I wont mind upgrading for it. However it does worry me a bit, as the game doesn't really look all that special. Don't get me wrong I do love the environments, atmosphere and lighting, but I'm just surprised that there's a chance it might chew up my PC and spit it out.
Also the 50GB(41GB) will make my SSDs suffer
You don't know it means nothing. It *could* mean nothing. It also *could* well be their wording to cover up that they've done a poor job with scalability with lesser hardware on PC.
That is honestly the impression I get from both that, and the initial comment. You don't tend to see developers refuse to give out minimum requirements and then actively discourage users from using anything less than recommended specs. Sends up a few warning flags.
For good or bad reasons VRAM usage will only increase. The latest 900 series have 4GB and it's good that they will be put to good use memory wise.
I truly wonder what could justify a 4GB framebuffer. Textures don't look particularly good I have to say.
Wrong. It runs better than Xbone version on similar speced PC.
Well "givin it a go" doesn't sound like playable to me. You could also "give it a go" ,for example, to run Lords of Shadow 2 on a gt 740m but the game will stutter and lag even on the lowest settings available that it won't be playable at all. Technically the game will run but at 15-20 fps and with frequent chops during action sequences. Dunno if anyone would want to play a game like that.
Also with comments like
and
it doesn't look the game is gonna scale well.
Honestly this whole thing is very confusing. Both Rage and WTNO could scale well. Hell i finished WTNO on the afforementioned gt 740m at lowest @ 720p and the game was playable maintaining 30+ fps even during very high action.
I thought that my gtx 670 jetstream, 8 GBs of ram @ 2133 mhz and 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz would suffice for 1080p but the rep and the team seem to think otherwise.
Either way i hope dso will get a review copy early to do a performance analysis.
Man. The situation really does look more and more like the bad news it sounded like.Well "givin it a go" doesn't sound like playable to me. You could also "give it a go" ,for example, to run Lords of Shadow 2 on a gt 740m but the game will stutter and lag even on the lowest settings available that it won't be playable at all. Technically the game will run but at 15-20 fps and with frequent chops during action sequences. Dunno if anyone would want to play a game like that.
Also with comments like
and
it doesn't look the game is gonna scale well.
Honestly this whole thing is very confusing. Both Rage and WTNO could scale well. Hell i finished WTNO on the afforementioned gt 740m at lowest @ 720p and the game was playable maintaining 30+ fps even during very high action.
I thought that my gtx 670 jetstream, 8 GBs of ram @ 2133 mhz and 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz would suffice for 1080p but the rep and the team seem to think otherwise.
Either way i hope dso will get a review copy early to do a performance analysis.
Not good news for sales potential on PC. I imagine the amount of people with 4GB vRAM on PC is extremely low. I await tons of people complaining about performance with this, too.
Well "givin it a go" doesn't sound like playable to me. You could also "give it a go" ,for example, to run Lords of Shadow 2 on a gt 740m but the game will stutter and lag even on the lowest settings available that it won't be playable at all. Technically the game will run but at 15-20 fps and with frequent chops during action sequences. Dunno if anyone would want to play a game like that.
Also with comments like
and
it doesn't look the game is gonna scale well.
Honestly this whole thing is very confusing. Both Rage and WTNO could scale well. Hell i finished WTNO on the afforementioned gt 740m at lowest @ 720p and the game was playable maintaining 30+ fps even during very high action.
I thought that my gtx 670 jetstream, 8 GBs of ram @ 2133 mhz and 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz would suffice for 1080p but the rep and the team seem to think otherwise.
Either way i hope dso will get a review copy early to do a performance analysis.
That really doesn't sound good :/ I thought my HD5850 would be all right with the game because it's getting released on last gen consoles but I'm afraid I won't be able to run it now. It annoys me even more because my brother got me a preorder for that game for my birthday :/
-MD-
Member
Didn't someone link something earlier from the steam hardware chart that said only 1.5% of players have 4GB of VRAM or more?
I'm hoping this is some bad communication or something and we're not required to have enthusiast level hardware just to simply run the game.
I agree, it's very strange not having minimum requirements and could mean bad things, but i mean "nothing" in the sense that you probably not need 4GB to enjoy the game in a reasonable manner. Running it on the super low end like a 740m will obviously be bad but if you have a 2+TF GPU with at least 2GB i doubt it will be unplayable if you are ok with settling with not the absolute best.
I guess will see soon.
I know. I pre-ordered the game almost as soon as it became available on Steam and then i also got the season pass. I was and still am very excited about it and i really want it to do good on the pc; getting Japanese games and well known directors on the PC is something i want to financially support given the chance.
However, if the game trully requires 4gbs of vram to be playable, with no options to scale it down, locked and encoded .ini files and other stuff like that then i'm afraid it's not gonna bode well for anyone involved.
Well "givin it a go" doesn't sound like playable to me. You could also "give it a go" ,for example, to run Lords of Shadow 2 on a gt 740m but the game will stutter and lag even on the lowest settings available that it won't be playable at all. Technically the game will run but at 15-20 fps and with frequent chops during action sequences. Dunno if anyone would want to play a game like that.
Also with comments like
and
it doesn't look the game is gonna scale well.
Honestly this whole thing is very confusing. Both Rage and WTNO could scale well. Hell i finished WTNO on the afforementioned gt 740m at lowest @ 720p and the game was playable maintaining 30+ fps even during very high action.
I thought that my gtx 670 jetstream, 8 GBs of ram @ 2133 mhz and 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz would suffice for 1080p but the rep and the team seem to think otherwise.
Either way i hope dso will get a review copy early to do a performance analysis.
Did you even read the thread ?
That community guy from bethesda clarified this, you don't need 4GB to run the game.
4GB corresponds to "high" settings.
Such lazy development, how can a game like this need 4GB VRAM? i mean seriously wtf, they didn't bothered optimizing the game.
4GB to run a game on "high" settings? laughable.
4GB to run a game on "high" settings? laughable.
I did. Please tell me where does he explicitly state that 4GB of VRAM are required to run the game on high and not for the game in general?
Hell, i'd love to be proven wrong and have my doubts cast aside.
Please link his response.
So far the comments from Bethesda have been (iirc):
i)"We are not posting minimum requirements"
ii)"Can i run the game with 2gbs of vram?" "You really should have 4gbs".
iii)"I asked the guys in the office and they told me that the game can run with 2gb but it is not recommended".
and
iv)"The PC version doesn't scale down to PS3/360 lvls"
Please show a quote of him saying something along the lines of "The game is definitely playable with 2gb of vram".
Uh-huh. Do we even know how the textures will look on their highest setting?
How do they look on PS4? The high amount of VRAM in the PS4 allows for a very high amount of texture detail so surely they must have used that to their advantage. Is there a recent build to look at somewhere? From the PS4-version that is.
I do agree though that from what I've seen it's really high as a recommended specification.
flipswitch
Member
Maybe the cutscenes are actually videos instead of being rendered in real time, going by the 50GB installation.
So, instead of reccomending PC users to accept lower ammount of video ram than nextgen consoles and play game in worse-looking mode no matter what configuration they have, Bethesda is reccomending PC users to get 4GB cards [launch game KZSF used 3.5GB for textures].
Why are people upset? Is someone here really expecting that their old PCs will not requrire some upgrades in first year or two of nextgen console arrival?
Why are people upset? Is someone here really expecting that their old PCs will not requrire some upgrades in first year or two of nextgen console arrival?
flipswitch
Member
Ok, just got interested in this game from today, didn't know much about it before that and now I see it's coming in the month of October. Glad I came into this thread now 
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PS4 version for me. My 670 only has a measly 2GB of ram.
.PS4 version for me. My 670 only has a measly 2GB of ram.
My chill pill? All i asked was a quote from the Bethesda rep saying that the game is playable with 2gb of VRAM, since you called me out for apparently "not even reading the thread".
Instead you are telling me to look up his responses as if i didn't link the dude's answers in my previous posts and provide a recap of what he has said so far.
In other words, you claimed that i posted misinformation and that "gstaff" said that 4gb is required only for high settings. I politely asked for a quote of him saying that the game is playable with 2gb of vram and all i got was snark and a recommendation for chill pills.
Xpliskin pls.
meltingparappa
Member
Am I boned with my i5 2500 and Radeon 6870 1gb?
Is greenman good about cancellations and should I just bite the bullet and finally get a ps4?
Is greenman good about cancellations and should I just bite the bullet and finally get a ps4?
You should get a PS4 for Bloodborne anyway.
I have to say, you're either super thick, or you're trolling.
"As noted in the blog post, this is the recommended requirements to play the game as the developer's intended it to be played"
Intended to be played -------> artists' best effort put into detail -------> highest quality
The next step would be drawing it, but I'd first suggest taking reading comprehension classes.
I wonder why I'm even bothering.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
VRAM, bro. It was in the thread title so no excuses.
If this sort of thing becomes commonplace, I'm going to feel a whole lot better about shelling out for a PS4 for 'just' Bloodborne.
No, I think people with graphics cards and CPU's already more powerful than in either console aren't going to be happy about *needing* to upgrade.
The real issue is whether this game does run properly on less than 4GB vRAM. Apparently they say it can, but they also don't recommend it, which could mean performance issues or instability or something that affects the core playability of the game. If a game actually *requires* 4GB vRAM, then that's crazy and simply a developer who has put no good effort into scalability on the PC, which is a huge no-no considering the massive range of machines that PC users(potential customers, don't forget) have.
This isn't the same concern that's going on over in the Shadow of Mordor thread, which I think most rational people are perfectly fine with.
ambar_hitman
Member
So I was right about expressing doubt about pc port and not preordering it. Might get for PS4 now.
We're way past that. The "the intended to be played" comment was yesterday, when the recommended settings were posted. After that gstaff was asked to clarify and on a question of whether the game is playable with 2gb of vram his response was:
(from the bethblog).
That sounds very cryptic to me since "might be able to run" it and "give it a go" doesn't say if the game will be playable or not.
And considering that other things like
were said it's not unreasonable to be in doubt.
Also for a guy prescribing chill pills to others you sound quite upset man. I, like many others in the thread just want a clear answer and you, surprisingly, found my posts insulting for some reason.
Also no my posts were clearly not trolling and yes do stop bothering.
Phanatic8390
Member
I'm sorry but you're making a bit of a leap going from intended to be played to highest settings.
Instead of using commonly accepted terms on the platform (low, medium, high, ultra) they've gone out of their way to avoid saying any of those and keep repeating you should have 4 GB of VRAM.
Intended to be played is a meaningless statement on the ability to run the game at any graphical levels. We can't infer any quality settings from that phrase.
There's also the "we really don't recommend it" part. I don't think they'd say "you can give it a go on PS4, but we really don't recommend it. The way it was meant to be played is on PC with 4GB of VRAM", so that also opens the interpretation that less than 4GB could maybe not even match the consoles version.
No, because what you're inferring is that a more powerful machine is required to run this game on high settings. Which is ridiculous.
It runs on idtech5, not luminous.
Phanatic8390
Member
I agree that it sounds ridiculous but the additional comment indicating that it won't be scaling down to ps3/360 levels seems to indicate their isn't going to be much downward movement.
At the very least we need more information than what's been provided.