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[Kssio_Aug]

Joke post?

Not at all.

 

[loaf of bread]

How could they prove that there's no deal?

Thats not the point, there could be deal, there could not be. But what I've concluded in my head from this info is that it seems like an MS deal to me so thats what I am going to assume.

 

[TheStruggler]

"Wait what's that, ITS PARITY TIME!!!

 

[Zen Mu]

Lame move. This wasn't really a buy for me anyway though. Mordor already scratched any itch I had for this style of gameplay this year.

I still may pick it up on sale sometime next year if the reviews are good.

 

[John Harker]

#PS4NoParity
@Ubisoft @UbisoftMTL @assassinscreed @IGN @gamespot @kotaku @playstation @AngryJoeShow @CynicalBrit

Dunno many big gaming personalities doe.

Too bad Alexandre Amancio and others working on the game aren't using twitter.

Also trying to get @yosp @amboyes to retweet the hashtag

why not MS too?

 

[Lemondish]

Is it though?

Soooo edgy.

 

[Scoot2005]

So many confused people in here.

We aren't angry that the PS4 and XB1 versions are running at the same specs.

We're mad because Ubisoft flat out said PS4 could do better, but they decided to keep it the same because of "debates".

Nobody has a problem with them busting their ass on the XB1 version to get it up to where the PS4 version is. It's the fact that they chopped the PS4 version down.

As well as creating an environment for worry with all future Ubisoft titles as well as any other third party developer. I don't want to buy games that could be better but are gimped instead to offer parity. If this becomes a trend then whats the fucking point of buying the more powerful console and supporting the company that made it? How the fuck does the technology progress when it pertains to gaming? All because of parity?

 

[Paracelsus]

why not MS too?

They'd buy Twitter for 14.5bn.

 

[Man]

I have too many games to play anyhow. *removes from list*

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Is it though?

Yes

 

[djkeem]

I just don't understand why people get so worked up over this stuff. If you have been interested in AC: Unity up until now, passing because of parity seems so pointless. Just play the game. Losing sleep over pixels is not a good look.

Supporting ignorance is not a good look either.

 

[Zombie James]

well on most levels... because you're paying for the experience of the product, not it's resolution.

Did you not but DVD movies because it was available to be seen in-theaters at better quality? No, you buy it because you want the content and all you had was a DVD player.

Paramount doesn't come out with 480p Blu-ray movies so people who only own DVD players won't feel bad.

Fuck this garbage, I fully flat-out refuse to support Ubisoft on anything right now.

 

[John Bender]

PS4 does NOT have a more powerful CPU.

Once again just for you:

People still haven't read the damn quote fully
CPU BOUND REFERS TO FRAMERATE, NOT RESOLUTION.

 

[Oshimai]

 

[Kinyou]

Thats not the point, there could be deal, there could not be. But what I've concluded in my head from this info is that it seems like an MS deal to me so thats what I am going to assume.

Yes, but the only way you could be convinced otherwise is if they prove a negative. When that's the case, I'm not sure that you should be so set on your assumption.

 

[Lrrr]

This won't end well for Ubisoft.

 

[KCroxtonJr]

That isn't what UBI said nor what happened! They said the game is CPU bound. PS4 only has a more powerful graphics chip. if you are cpu bound, both systems are essentially the same speed.

all this ranting and raving is a waste of time people. Ubi hit parity by needing more CPU. Not because they couldn't make use of performance in PS4's GPU.

You don't know what you're talking about lol

 

[Purest 78]

So all that Microsoft money for Call of Duty marketing and map packs couldn't save Ghosts from being 720p on XB1?

This argument that Microsoft forced parity is so illogical it's not even funny.

Honestly when ghost launched resolution wasn't as big as a topic as it is now. Even MS said 900p was unacceptable on Diablo. I truly don't think it's far fetched MS money could have played a role in this. Obviously there's no proof, but feasible in my opinion.

 

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Well it's not getting bought then. Sorry.

I hope this shit doesn't happen with Far Cry 4.

 

[Bloodrage]

Is it though?

Not sure if serious.

 

[BruiserBear]

What is the incentive for Ubisoft to force parity then?

It's staring you right in the face in the OP. Jeebus.

Assassin's Creed Unity will run at 900p/30fps on both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Ubisoft has confirmed, with the publisher opting to aim for platform parity to avoid discussion over the differences in performance.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff," senior producer Vincent Pontbriand told VideoGamer.com while explaining that it's the consoles' CPUs – not the GPU – that prevents Ubisoft Montreal from improving the game's performance.

"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.

"We were quickly bottlenecked by that and it was a bit frustrating, because we thought that this was going to be a tenfold improvement over everything AI-wise, and we realised it was going to be pretty hard. It's not the number of polygons that affect the framerate. We could be running at 100fps if it was just graphics, but because of AI, we're still limited to 30 frames per second."

Last year's Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag also shipped at 900p/30fps on both PS4 and Xbox One. A post-release patch, however, bumped the PS4 version to 1080p. Ubisoft has given no indication that it has plans to do the same for Unity.

Assassin's Creed Unity launches on PS4, Xbox One and PC on November 14.

The parity comment was likely just a dumb way of explaining this, but he says RIGHT THERE it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, because of all the crazy AI they have in this game. Surprise surprise, the CPU's on these two consoles are nearly identical.

But don't let that stop us from having a massive thread about conspiracy theories etc. :/

 

[SlowRevolution]

Jeez. I really am glad this stuff doesn't bother me as much as it does some of the people in here. It's like ubi literally slapped y'all across the face.

Some serious anger in these comments lol

all of these drive-by holier-than-thou posts are easily as embarrassing as the furious over-the-top comments you guys are so confused by.

 

[Chobel]

That isn't what UBI said nor what happened! They said the game is CPU bound. PS4 only has a more powerful graphics chip. if you are cpu bound, both systems are essentially the same speed.

all this ranting and raving is a waste of time people. Ubi hit parity by needing more CPU. Not because they couldn't make use of performance in PS4's GPU.

It's staring you right in the face in the OP. Jeebus.




The parity comment was likely just a dumb way of explaining this, but he says RIGHT THERE it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, because of all the crazy AI they have in this game. Surprise surprise, the CPU's on these two consoles are nearly identical.

But don't let that stop us from having a massive thread about conspiracy theories etc. :/

Can you fucking stop this? I mean FFS, CPU bound has nothing to do with resolution. CPU bound is about framerate.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

I'll be holding off on this Ubisoft. There are a lot of other games for me to play on PS4 right now.

 

[Portugeezer]

Im still not sure. Cant see a game that proves that the PS4 is MUCH superior. Except if 900p X 1080p is enough to declare it.

Well, 900p x 1080p tends to confirm what we know about the power discrepancy between the two consoles.

 

[Reg]

Vote with your wallets people.

 

[Mr Git]

I'm insinuating that they are liars, and bad liars because this was the best they could come up with.

Definitely bad liars. I thought the, "if it weren't for this we could have the game running at ONE HUNDRED FPS, yeah!" took the biscuit. Kinda the dev equivalent to playground ass tales.

 

[TK Turk]

Preorder kept. Can't wait to play the game. Looks great.

 

[jonabbey]

Lets not kid ourselves here, they are both identical CPU's 1 running at a higher clock because it has more overheads to contend with, snap features, kinnect etc... It does NOT have a higher CPU resource pool to use for games. PS4 chooses not to use that clock.

That higher clock (for both the CPU and the GPU, BTW) on the bone has a cost in power and heat dissipation. Maybe the PS4's cooling solution could handle the extra heat, maybe it couldn't. Dunno.

 

[qa_engineer]

I wasn't going to get the game either way because Assassin's Creed is a huge snooze fest, but they definitely did PS4 owners dirty. I guess its cool that they were transparent, but perhaps you could have presented this in a different manner. I mean flat out saying, "hey we kept the two games the same to prevent debates" is pretty stupid if you ask me.

 

[Schweinehund]

Given ubi's pc port performances, I'm hardly surprised.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Well, 900p x 1080p tends to confirm what we know about the power discrepancy between the two consoles.

So that difference is what makes a console MUCH stronger then another?
I see... Allright. Youre all right then!

Lol

 

[stryke]

PS4 does NOT have a more powerful CPU.

Which has little to do with resolution.

 

[BigDug13]

If they want to avoid all discussion, let's lock PC version to 900p/30 also and provide zero video options.

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Canceled with Best Buy, will buy used maybe. Saying that you're gimping a version is baffling.

 

[Daylight]

Ubi messed up on this one. Why would you admit to this? And

I think we all want publishers to be more honest. Creating an uproar over this is probably not the best move if everyone wants them to continue with that honesty. Probably too late though.

 

[barit]

Wow this is a new low for Ubisoft.

Hope this shit gets backfired hard !

 

[JABEE]

It's staring you right in the face in the OP. Jeebus.




The parity comment was likely just a dumb way of explaining this, but he says RIGHT THERE it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, because of all the crazy AI they have in this game. Surprise surprise, the CPU's on these two consoles are nearly identical.

But don't let that stop us from having a massive thread about conspiracy theories etc. :/

JohnHarker is basically hinting at the exact opposite of what you are saying.

 

[rrc1594]

Yeah, it's so obvious I can't believe some people can't see it. If people actually interpret what he said literally, they're tin-foil hat wearers. If they ignore what he said completely, they're sensible and intelligent posters.

The real tin-foil hat wearers are those that have constantly denied this goes on. It's both ironic and frightening.

So people who don't jump to conclusion, are people who have tin-fol hat on?

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

I just find it hilarious how important this shit is to you guys. Like, who honestly gives a fuck? Multiple people in this thread said that Ubisoft should have just kept their mouths shut - if they had, you guys wouldn't give a shit. I doubt that most of you could even tell that the game is not running at 1080p; hell, if it weren't for Digital Foundry, you wouldn't have these kinds of discussions in the first place. The fact that people get sooooo caught up with NUMBERS is insane to me.

Like, okay, if, for example, they reduced the size of the world or removed certain features because the Xbone can't handle that shit, I could understand people getting mad. But this? This is just pathetic.

I agree. People can be upset but still enjoy the game (it's all about having fun with the game right guys?) but this...

#PS4NoParity
@Ubisoft @UbisoftMTL @assassinscreed @IGN @gamespot @kotaku @playstation @AngryJoeShow @CynicalBrit

Dunno many big gaming personalities doe.

Too bad Alexandre Amancio and others working on the game aren't using twitter.

Also trying to get @yosp @amboyes to retweet the hashtag

... this is another level. Holy shit I don't even know what to say.

 

[ironcreed]

Jeez. I really am glad this stuff doesn't bother me as much as it does some of the people in here. It's like ubi literally slapped y'all across the face.

Some serious anger in these comments lol

No, they slapped themselves across the face and then tied their shoelaces together before trying to walk with their statement. But it's not going to be a deal breaker for me, either. I still want to play the game.

 

[Buzzbrad]

It's staring you right in the face in the OP. Jeebus.




The parity comment was likely just a dumb way of explaining this, but he says RIGHT THERE it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, because of all the crazy AI they have in this game. Surprise surprise, the CPU's on these two consoles are nearly identical.

But don't let that stop us from having a massive thread about conspiracy theories etc. :/

Exactly this. People please read his CPU explanation.

 

[AgentP]

PS4 does NOT have a more powerful CPU.

And CPUs do not render frame buffers.

 

[Symax]

I really appreciate the honesty. The PR guys seemed to have a vacation on the day the statement was made.

 

[shem935]

It's staring you right in the face in the OP. Jeebus.




The parity comment was likely just a dumb way of explaining this, but he says RIGHT THERE it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, because of all the crazy AI they have in this game. Surprise surprise, the CPU's on these two consoles are nearly identical.

But don't let that stop us from having a massive thread about conspiracy theories etc. :/

As stated many times in the thread CPU deals with framerate and GPU resolution. You even highlighted in that statement that he is refering to the equal framerates, not resolution.

 

[Izayoi]

Well, I was worried about trying to fit this in among all the other games coming out soon. Not such a huge worry anymore!

Absolutely unbelievable. Our fears realized, far sooner than I would've hoped. Fuck off forever, Ubisoft.

 

[mdubs]

I know it's selfish but I'm very ok with this because I'd rather play this on my Xbox one than my ps4 cause of the controller and achievements.

 

[Mung]

So that difference is what makes a console MUCH stronger then another?
I see... Allright. Youre all right then!

Lol

Have you gone back in time to early 2013? The console power debate is settled.

 

[SuperSonic1305]

They have to show the Xbox One version in previews for co-marketing reasons but also want the best version to be shown. Solution: Make the PS4 version worse. Too bad walmart.ca doesn't allow pre-order cancellation.

 

[Randdalf]

PS4 does NOT have a more powerful CPU.

Exactly, if they are CPU bound they can do nothing about it. It's not like they have a 1060/60 PS4 version hidden away in a vault somewhere - it just simply doesn't exist.