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[Zombie James]

Sucks.. Brad from GB said they're not going to talk about this (or at least hinted they're not).

"why would we when Ubi already explained the technical reason behind it?"

I love GB, but the guys there know jack shit about technology.

 

[alr1ght]

Sucks.. Brad from GB said they're not going to talk about this (or at least hinted they're not).

"why would we when Ubi already explained the technical reason behind it?"

This shouldn't surprise you.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"
is not a technical reason.

 

[TAJ]

Actually it was the home of the 6GB VRAM controversy, where we got dozens of meltdowns from some PC gamers thinking that their video cards were now "worthless". It also went through a bit of a console roller-coaster, where people were mocking the XBO version for being "720p30", based on some sort of vague information that the PS4 was expected to be 1080p60. It turned out that XBO was 900p30 and PS4 was 1080p30, so nearly everybody was wrong until we got our hands on the game.

There were also differences in settings so the difference was bigger than just 900p vs 1080p.
Still, the difference was not remotely as big as 1080p//60 vs. 720p/30.

 

[Wickerbasket]

guys microsoft didn't pay to nerf the ps4 version. they paid to make sure the xbone version was just as good as the ps4 version.

Isn't that the same thing?

Anyway, these big companies always make weird decisions.

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

There it is

 

[Broder Salsa]

let me know when you see the difference between 1080 and 900.

This is a post, letting you know

 

[Vandiger]

It's not about the resolution it about them gimping the game because of a certain reason which don't sound right.
I sure you won't like if UBI said there were gimping the PC version to 900p.

Its already kinda gimped with Ubisoft Kyiv and Uplay. Might be the first AC title I won't buy, gonna wait until some other PC suckers buy the game to test it out.

 

[perfectsil]

Made by Ubisoft Kiev...avoid it like the plague.

can't run worse than 900p/30fps

 

[dose]

I remember my original xbox multi plats getting gimped all the time and I never got as salty as some people here. Wow.

How were your Xbox games 'gimped all the time'? Name them.

 

[M_A_C]

There won't parity in the sales numbers so why should there be in the game?

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Forced parity seems crazy, but with the recent Mordor faceoff it also seems weird for Unity to not be 1080p on PS4.

The environment in Mordor mostly looks generic. I bet AC:U pushes better visuals.

 

[markot]

Are they limiting the PC version too?

 

[Radec]

There won't parity in the sales numbers so why should there be in the game?

This is one step in having sales parity.

Make some ps4 gamers not buy your product.

 

[Canis lupus]

It's been going down, don't let it die noo

 

[Flintty]

They gave back 10% reserve of a weaker GPU than what the PS4 has. Does it give the XB1 a boost? Yes. Will it make the two machines equal? Never.

Shadows of Mordor is a good example of how to do a title right. It was tailored for each platform. Hardly anyone complained. That flimsy excuse in the OP is disgusting because this has sparked more controversy and backlash full of conspiracies and fanfiction by going the parity route.

In case your being serious no you can make up a 50% difference with 10%.
This is a GPU problem also not a CPU one.

Sorry, my original question was misinterpreted. Someone said that Ubi games always had lower resolution on X1 but suspicious that ACU has parity, equating this to dirty MS tactics. As what has happened with Diablo 3 and Destiny though, I was asking if that 10% was enough to up the resolution.

For absolute clarity, I'm not saying the 10% is enough to make X1 and PS4 equal but it has been proven to help increase resolution

Sorry, I'm tired and need sleep!

 

[pixlexic]

its hyperbolic comparisons like that gif that fuels the flames for the resolution topic.
There is a difference but its not that big of a difference perspectively.

Me I usually get multi plats on pc where possible. but AC4 was a complete train wreck on pc so I don't know

 

[Patroclos]

Sucks.. Brad from GB said they're not going to talk about this (or at least hinted they're not).

"why would we when Ubi already explained the technical reason behind it?"

Games Journalists in action! Too busy working up an op/ed piece on feminism or violence in gaming, you know, way more pertinent topics than forced parity in games.

Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...
Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...
Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...

 

[ComputerBlue]

let me know when you see the difference between 1080 and 900.

The difference was significant nontheless.

Eurogamer also had an excellent comparison page.

Nope, no difference at all.

 

[TAJ]

How were your Xbox games 'gimped all the time'? Name them.

MGS2 was clearly and intentionally gimped. They just took the PS2 texture files and compressed them again for the Xbox version.
That said, Xbox versions were consistently better. 480p (or 720p) vs. 480i and better frame rates being the biggest differences usually.

 

[Kezen]

Are they limiting the PC version too?

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/far-cry-4-assassins-creed-unity-exclusive-pc-graphical-features-unveiled/

Does that sound like gimping to you ? Thanks Nvidia.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/game24-ubisoft-montreal-developer-interview

 

[Mononoke]

its hyperbolic comparisons like that gif that fuels the flames for the resolution topic.
There is a difference but its not that big of a difference perspectively.

Me I usually get multi plats on pc where possible. but AC4 was a complete train wreck on pc so I don't know

I agree it's not that massive. But if you have a 55 inch tv and aren't sitting across the room (like a living room) it can be a pretty big difference. AC IV was really noticeable.

Edit: I mean look at the AC IV gifs, that is pretty substantial. I noticed this myself before people were making the gifs.

 

[The_Lump]

Game Communism. Lolz

This console generation is hella entertaining so far.

 

[d9b]

Is this for real? Ubisoft is not serious, right? No money from me if serious.

 

[NullPointer]

Pixel counters said the beta build on XB1 was in the 700-800p area so its possible they did bump it up to 900p for parity.

Image Quality is god damn dreadful.

Woah woah woah. Is this just a bad shot or is this representative? And if it's representative what the hell happened to this game?

 

[SlowRevolution]

Games Journalists in action! Too busy working up an op/ed piece on feminism or violence in gaming, you know, way more pertinent topics than forced parity in games.

Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...
Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...
Help me Jim Sterling.. You are our only hope...

brad shoemaker is my one stop shop for articles on feminism and violence

 

[killatopak]

MGS2 was clearly and intentionally gimped. They just took the PS2 texture files and compressed them again for the Xbox version.
That said, Xbox versions were consistently better. 480p (or 720p) vs. 480i and more better frame rates being the biggest differences usually.

How is that gimped when it ran better?

 

[TAJ]

How is that gimped when it ran better?

?
The Xbox version ran worse. (In terms of frame rate, at least. It was running at 640x480 instead of the weird sub-SD resolution the PS2 version was running at.)

 

[Astral Dog]

My friend has been telling me you can't really see a difference, but I can. I had the beta of Destiny for both my X1 and PS4. I used the same exact TV settings for both. In comparison, the X1 version looked like I was viewing it through a slightly fogged window while the PS4 version looked like it was through a window that was just cleaned with windex. It really did.

So if I have the option, I will buy the higher resolution version.

Thats weird, isnt Destiny Xbox ONE 1080P too?

 

[chopstik]

The salty PS4 only owners are making this great. I love my PS4, and XBone. I'll be picking this up on PS4 assuming performance is better. But if it's not, I'll pick it up on the XBone as I haven't played too much of anything on it in a while.

general question....would xb1 owners be "salty" if their version of a game was gimped for parity with the wii u?

 

[BigDug13]

Thats weird, isnt Destiny Xbox ONE 1080P too?

Not in the beta it wasn't.

 

[killatopak]

?
The Xbox version ran worse.

You just said it ran with better resolution and frame rate. How is that worse?

Edit:Oh, you were saying it for the rest of the ports not specifically MGS2.

 

[ZoddGutts]

And some people said that this would never happen.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

MGS2 was clearly and intentionally gimped. They just took the PS2 texture files and compressed them again for the Xbox version.
That said, Xbox versions were consistently better. 480p (or 720p) vs. 480i and better frame rates being the biggest differences usually.

That game was specifically tailored to the PS2 hardware, it wasn't as simple as copying and pasting, so it suffered in the translation.

 

[thelastcrusader]

This was possibly my game of the year and my most anticipated but on a matter of principle alone I canceled this preorder. Oh well, I have more Dragon Age Inquisition time now.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Woah woah woah. Is this just a bad shot or is this representative? And if it's representative what the hell happened to this game?

Standard Ubisoft Downgrade.

Market shit rendered on Pixar's server farm, release technical abomination.

I'm voting with my wallet.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

You just said it ran with better resolution and frame rate. How is that worse?

Most multiplatform games ran better, but MGS2 did not.

 

[dmr87]

Pixel counters said the beta build on XB1 was in the 700-800p area so its possible they did bump it up to 900p for parity.

Image Quality is god damn dreadful.

Holy aliasing.

 

[SketchTheArtist]

82 pages for this!? Holy molly. O_O

 

[Flintty]

Thats weird, isnt Destiny Xbox ONE 1080P too?

The Beta was a lower resolution on X1. MS sent some wizards to Bungie HQ to fix it

 

[ComputerBlue]

Thats weird, isnt Destiny Xbox ONE 1080P too?

I believe the beta wasn't, which is what they're talking about.

 

[alexandros]

How is "we wanted to avoid debates" a technical reason? Games journalists are another issue for this industry. It makes me sad that they can either be this uninformed or just not care about stuff like this.

They don't care because they believe most of their audience doesn't care either.

 

[Road]

Flawless.

I almost am happy Microsoft is paying for all kinds of shit just because of the fun reading threads about it on GAF.

 

[KageMaru]

If they were CPU bound, why talk about choosing parity? With both CPUs being roughly the same, it would make sense both are crippled to similar degrees.

 

[Duxxy3]

This was possibly my game of the year and my most anticipated but on a matter of principle alone I canceled this preorder. Oh well, I have more Dragon Age Inquisition time now.

You're counting on EA to make a game that fully utilizes hardware?

 

[Mory Dunz]

72 pages I swear this was bigger that Zelda e3 reveal lol.

Maybe....but Zelda had the girl thing, so dunno.

 

[Waylon Drums]

Your right. As you can see I edited my post. That part was unnecessary but I still can't see how anybody can support this.

Ahhhh, we've all been there. I called someone here an unfunny pile of stupid once and it has haunted me ever since. You're right, though, about it being tough to see how someone can support this.

 

[Chobel]

Woah woah woah. Is this just a bad shot or is this representative? And if it's representative what the hell happened to this game?

That was taken from Gamerside interview (french) http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_assassin_s_creed_unity_interview_d_alexandre_amancio-33182_en.html

 

[Yoday]

Sucks.. Brad from GB said they're not going to talk about this (or at least hinted they're not).

"why would we when Ubi already explained the technical reason behind it?"

Come on now, maybe they just don't have time to discuss it. I mean, how can you discuss something affecting the industry like forced parity when we still have so much more ground to cover in Dan's eating habits?

 

[jschreier]

Ubisoft just sent over a statement, FYI all. http://kotaku.com/ac-unity-will-have-same-specs-on-xbox-one-and-ps4-to-av-1643054770

 

[Thoraxes]

Well, there goes any interest I had in picking up a console version.

I'll wait a heavily discounted PC version.