MrSaturn99
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look at terrible it is that ttyd sold the least
And yeah, that's Super Paper Mario, I believe. No doubt propelled by the Wii.
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look at terrible it is that ttyd sold the least
And yeah, that's Super Paper Mario, I believe. No doubt propelled by the Wii.
tonyh24613
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It's on a handheld console, you know. We still need a proper Paper Mario game on WiiU, but IS may be too busy with FEXSMT and project S.T.E.A.M.
theprodigy
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not very good, that actually requires extra effort
Install bases are important to consider with those sales numbers. Considering the 3DS was significantly more successful than the gamecube it wouldn't be crazy to say that they've all been similarly successful. They might go for the Sticker Star route but it's always possible that they try to go back to an RPG, provided there's no executive meddling.
Corrected.
Corrected.
I guess that explains why every Metroid and Paper Mario trophy I have are all from Other M and Sticker Star. I have to wonder why they chose that model for Lakitu. He's in NSMB2 and NSMB:U so it's not like they didn't have a more recent model to use.
themagicalkitsune
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People fish for avatar quotes now?
I need these Miis. :O
Also, I think Sticker Star ended up becoming the best selling Paper Mario game in Japan (and sold great worldwide in general). Don't quote me on that one though, I may not be remembering things right, but yeah... makes me worried that future PM games will follow in it's footsteps which I definitely don't want.
I wonder if Paper Mario could be feasible as an alternate skin of Mario. Probably not, but just thinking about it...
It comes across the same way to me - despite the wildly varying install base of the N64, GC, Wii and 3DS, having the series stay solidly in the 400-500k range means no style is favoured over the other. Though seeing as the cited source for Sticker Star's change in direction was something as inconsequential as survey results, hopefully they take note of the concerns people voiced this time.
A few have been done for Brawl, so it's technically possible, but it'd be a shame to waste his moveset potential.
Considering everything else that has to be modeled, I'll take the model rips over draining resources that could have gone to items, ATs and enemies - which in themselves have done a much better job of representing a wider variety of series than Brawl. It is a shame that series like Metroid will get skewed representation in that case; though I guess it can't be helped, seeing as Other M was the first 3D game in the series.
WiiRevolution1
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Great write up.
My thoughts:
Mario: I don't think there will be any cuts next time. Bowser Jr/Koopalings and Rosalina are very popular and have unique movesets. And I don't think Dr. Mario was added in late, the other "new" clones have pretty much the exact same moves where Doc has pills, tornado, I think he was always planned which since if they wanted another clone at the end, Alph would be the easiest since they already made him. Makes me think he'll be a lock next time but who knows?
The only new characters I see getting in are Paper Mario and a Toad variation. I think either Captain Toad or Paper Mario may be DLC. Guess we'll see. (Or both. Too many Mario characters be damned lol.)
Yoshi: I think the only viable newcomer would be Kamek. And I love YI and love Kamek so I'd want her. Sadly, I don't think Yoshi will ever get any new characters. I also disagree that Yoshi should be considered a Mario character. His games are completely different from Mario games. I've never considered Yoshi a Mario character, he just appears in the spinoffs and in the main games sometime. But his own games are completely different from Mario games outside of being 2D platformers.
Will wait for more!
Actually the reverse. I've said it so much it became my avatar.
Funny how that works.
And by funny I mean terrible.
Low, but you better believe that we need it.
SatoAilDarko
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Just woke up ten minutes ago after going to bed two hours ago. Kind of want to stay up to see Pic of the Day considering today's news but I should really get some sleep as I need to study tomorrow morning.
Do you guys think the Wii U "Adventure Mode" will be revealed in a:
-POTD, but a blowout with more than 1-2 pics obviously and site update I suppose.
-Or in the next Wii U direct
I'm starting to lean towards the second option...which makes it feel like it'll take a bit longer to be revealed.
-POTD, but a blowout with more than 1-2 pics obviously and site update I suppose.
-Or in the next Wii U direct
I'm starting to lean towards the second option...which makes it feel like it'll take a bit longer to be revealed.
god damn, i cant stop laughing. whatever happen to the poster that got the two naked mole rats with red eyes from heath?
Black-Wind
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EDit- wrong thread!
ShockingAlberto
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I mean, it's a month and some change away.
It doesn't really matter what they hold back or reveal now.
Fuel for the hype train, my good man.
theprodigy
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"PotD: To balance the characters, we took the results of Conquest Mode and nerfed the winning team's character."
lol
That change will make all the difference.
Sakurai is probably thinking, "It's a month and a half, that's enough time to let them suffer a bit more"
I'm an expert
DICKS AHOY
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I sort of have a feeling a Melee-style Adventure Mode will come back with maybe a few 'Smash' themed levels with the SSE enemies left over, if only to put all those enemies they made for Smash Run to good use in the Wii U version.
Just hope it doesn't suffer from the same problem Melee's did where after the first few impressive levels, it more or less turns into a less random Classic Mode.
Just hope it doesn't suffer from the same problem Melee's did where after the first few impressive levels, it more or less turns into a less random Classic Mode.
KLatin Scelus
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So, all of the veterans were built from the ground up in this game right?
How long do you think that took? It's pretty impressive they made that many characters, if that was the case.
How long do you think that took? It's pretty impressive they made that many characters, if that was the case.
That's what I'm thinking.
Or...it'll be something completely weird. And be completely hated or loved. And become the most divisive issue in Smash to date. Even more than LucIceTwoLf tripping.
I know that that's what they said but considering how many animations and sounds are reused I doubt it's actually the case
SatoAilDarko
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This is why I'll be okay if they used this game as a base for the next game. I can't see them recreating the close to 50 characters plus probable DLC and then make another 10 new fighters on top of that.
Also with Sakurai's almost certainly wanting to work on something else it'll be another six years before a release based on the current way which will probably be past the half-way point of Nintendo's next console.
I rather they just take this one and make graphical improvements and mercenary gameplay changes and put their energies towards adding more niche characters like Ray Mk-II, Wonder Red and Chibi-Robo.
Development started from a ported version of Brawl; it's also the reason behind the limited selection of past stages. We even got several PoTDs pointing out little animation details changed from the characters' Brawl versions during development (Link, ZSS and Pit in particular) - with some of the original animations being present in earlier media for the game. And of course there's the remnants of the alloys, Snake, Ivysaur, Squirtle, ICs, Lucas and Wolf in the game's files, along with Subspace Emissary-exclusive bosses.
Though even if none of the veterans were started from scratch, there were an impressive amount of animation, effect and model tweaks beyond the bare minimum implemented when you consider the roster's size.
unknownstranger
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Really disappointed in the final smashes. They kept all the clone ones the same and they changed a few of my favorite. Kirby's new one is a lot more powerful but I miss spawning a ton of items with the old one. I also noticed that every crate/barrel/party ball never has more than 2 items in it. I loved King DeDeDe's old final smash as well but that obviously got changed because of the 3DS hardware.
Edit: Wrong thread. X_x
Edit: Wrong thread. X_x
Masked Man
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I can't believe it was staring us in the face this whole time! (Interestingly, the JP campaign page still only lists example tracks from the 3DS version.) Really looking forward to see how they handle the Great Cave Offensive in Smash!
I envision it being a medley more along these lines. Of course, with five tracks per stage, I'm sure we'll see just about every bit of music related to GCO in the game!
Yep, that's it! She didn't specify which FE Gaiden track she (Michiru Yamane) would be arranging, but I think it's safe to say Battle 1 is our winner.
I'm personally pulling for this Butter Building arrangement or an arrangement of Secret Island!
When you connect to the Wii U version the little transfer bar turns into a cardboard box and Snake pops out, saying "Kept you waiting, huh?"
This is how you unlock Snake.
KLatin Scelus
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3 replies in the span of 2 minutes, we need to start a Q&A, it seems to make the thread more alive.
Thank you guys.
OricWindstar
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Oops. Wrong thread.
tonyh24613
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Pic of the day. The Flying Men that appear in the Magicant stage will ally with the first fighter that touches them. Watch out for their flying cross-chop attacks! They also accumulate damage, and a grave gets erected every time a Flying Man falls in battle. And of course, only up to five Flying Men can appear at a time.
KLatin Scelus
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InsaneZero
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Secret characters showcase time, I suppose.
And here I was thinking that by owning Smash 3DS I'd be able to keep myself from checking the POTD every night and enter a total media blackout. They just need to announce a Direct for me to betray those goals entirely.
Truly, nothing stops this train, not even reaching its first destination.
Truly, nothing stops this train, not even reaching its first destination.
I need these Miis. :O
Also, I think Sticker Star ended up becoming the best selling Paper Mario game in Japan (and sold great worldwide in general). Don't quote me on that one though, I may not be remembering things right, but yeah... makes me worried that future PM games will follow in it's footsteps which I definitely don't want.
Well, maybe it means Paper Mario games will have as awesome a soundtrack as Sticker Star, then? That's what it means, right? ...Right? D:
(I didn't really care for any other PM soundtrack except the N64 original and a small amount of the GCN sequel.)
*A soot-stained train operator rushes up to Sakurai*
"Sakurai-san, we left the station but forgot the brakes!"
*Sakurai laughs*
"We don't need brakes where we're going"
KLatin Scelus
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Pic of the day. The Flying Men that appear in the Magicant stage will ally with the first fighter that touches them. Watch out for their flying cross-chop attacks! They also accumulate damage, and a grave gets erected every time a Flying Man falls in battle. And of course, only up to five Flying Men can appear at a time.
I don't like the wording on that last sentence. It's misleading.
Yea it was in stock today. I ordered it this morning when the release date was announced. It's a good thing that I did now that it's unavailable.
I've seen five Flying Men fighting all around on the screen at one time. Haven't you?
(Yeah, I see how it's misleading. *nods*)
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