I wonder if a full MP map list is part of the plan. Although that may stretch the limits of possibility.
Destiny's radar is pretty good, you're right. The last time we discussed motion tracker in here, Destiny's was brought up.
You can organize assaults more effectively, both on offense and defense, without motion tracker -- the only difference with motion tracker is crouching in a 4 minute round where you don't have many opportunies to capture the flag against a competent team. Also, "lone wolfing" isn't viable in any Halo Objective gametype unless it was CTF in CE/H2 where you can bounce the flag around the map.
Yeah, I feel the same.
There's a huge amount of implementation-dependent stuff in this list. (Even if we restrict our consideration to trackers used in the Halo series.)
Spartans walking around must be pretty noisy
Lore should never restrict the mp
It encourages camping. Rather than moving around and peeking around corners to get intel on enemy movements you can just crouch in place and wait for red dots to appear. Think about Countdown in Reach and how much camping there is. That problem is vastly mitigated by removing motion tracker.
I don't care about that, lol.
Of course, everything labeled is subjective. I'm not saying that list is objectively bad for Halo. I understand people love motion tracker and think it works best for those reasons I pointed out, but I strongly believe many of these people don't understand the importance of map/combat awareness and strengthening those skills at a faster rate than games with motion tracker. The reality is that motion tracker slows down gameplay, and when you're playing an Objective gametype like CTF against a good team, how many chances you think you'll have at capturing that flag when you have to crouch-walk to positions from so far away?
Both of these are very important; Ice's post when discussing gameplay elements and Turtle's post because that's another thing that's being gimped (from a player's understanding of Halo-sense) with motion tracker: sound design.
Sure, but the other big benefit of having the motion tracker disabled is that it encourages communication and team work. People have to use call outs, warn each other of enemy locations, etc. I really enjoy that. It also requires more situational awareness and skill. You have to use your knowledge of the map, of power weapon spawns, of the objective, and your experience with the opponent to predict their movement. I looooove that.
I use non-verbal morse code signals to my team mates by tea bagging the ground. Get only my level, scrub.
Thanks. You too, Granadier.
That seems inefficient.
No, actually it won't be bad. There's going to be a lot of bonus fan fair but not so much it's overbearing
I agree 100%.
Those damn grenade hitmarkers, you're right. Combining those with motion tracker..
You don't need motion tracker to camp effectively. Motion tracker just hurts the person who isn't camping, giving too much power to the camper. As a defender in one-sided CTF, you already have the advantage. Gimping the element of surprise on maps where you can't really be too sneaky in the first place just feels like overkill.
You actually raise a great point here which further plays into that "Matchmaking experience is far different from competitive experiences." Competitive Halo rightfully* has no motion tracker, whereas 343 will never have a majority of the playlists without radar. People speak of the gameplay differences of 110% speed vs default and the limited sandbox of MLG gametypes, but I think Matchmaking's abundance of the overpowered motion tracker is far more problematic to unifying the gameplay than a 10% speed increase. That 10% speed increase and the less weapons being used don't create poor player habits that may negatively impact the player's overall skill progression, IMO.
