Welfare
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But it was a much better game. I guess it's up to 343 if they want the base gameplay in Halo 5 to even be considered "competitive".
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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But it was a much better game. I guess it's up to 343 if they want the base gameplay in Halo 5 to even be considered "competitive".
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Anyone got a good writeup on the Halo 1/2/3 spawn systems? I've never had a good understanding of spawns and I think that's the most valuable skill a player can employ.
It does encourage camping, but I've also found it encourages movement.
I see a red dot at the edge of my motion tracker and I move towards it. I don't think it needs to be completely removed from slayer, merely modified.
http://www.forgehub.com/threads/advanced-guide-to-respawns.14285/
Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but this is an amazing guide to Halo 3 spawns in regards to forge. It still gives you an idea of how spawns work fundamentally.
I'd appreciate something like this as well.
Funknown: I agree that radar is the only real skill-gimping factor when talking about differences between competitive and noncompetitive, but I think the movement speed and sandbox changes prevent a lot of people from participating in the first place. Combine them all and you have something that appears quite different and intimidating (rightly or wrongly) to newcomers.
Perhaps, alternatively though - I've been able to use motion tracker to effectively bait campers out of their spot and into traps plenty of times. Seeing a possible kill so close to them can cause people to make mistakes and get greedy. Radar can totally be used to the advantage of an offense assuming the offensive team is competent (and if they're not, they likely wouldn't win with or without radar).
GringoSuave89
Banned
Unknown at this point. They've only announced the one.
3 out of 4 aint bad
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
The final nail in the coffin that is Frankie's presence here.
Edit: thanks for the spawn system links guys!
Welfare
Member
Look where we're at now thanks to that title.
Dax's (?) was pretty good I think. Mjolnir Mix, I think it was.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Got to say I've never agreed with the sentiment that having radar is scrub level and some how once it's turned it off the game is objectively better.
Radar is a good tool, It allows people to make interesting plays and have a better understanding of player location in relation to them.
Turning it off stops that and relies on what is essentially abductive guess work.
Choo Choo or w.e but I feel the majority of the "no radar" crowd are just salty that they got dicked on because of a competent radar user.
Radar is a good tool, It allows people to make interesting plays and have a better understanding of player location in relation to them.
Turning it off stops that and relies on what is essentially abductive guess work.
Choo Choo or w.e but I feel the majority of the "no radar" crowd are just salty that they got dicked on because of a competent radar user.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
2 out of 3 thirds content on-disc aint bad
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Oh my fucking god.
Welfare
Member
In Multiplayer, radar should be used in low level play for players to get accustomed to the way players move around the map and how to strategize in general. Then, once you hit a higher level of play, it gets taken, with the game expecting that you learned what to do.
Assuming there is Ranked in Halo 5, that is.
Assuming there is Ranked in Halo 5, that is.
Ah k. Thanks.
There's probably something there with blur and 1328x1080.
But anyways. Dax's Mjolnir Mix is great.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
For sure, it's more a combination of everything over any individual part.
But what competent defender is going to get baited by an attacker in a less-than-optimal position for their one job of preventing the flag from leaving the base?
Objectively better for competitive play, like tournaments where money is on the line. Sound-based radar may be best for some Matchmaking playlists over motion tracker.
So is human intuition.
Well, yeah? Improving your ability to successful predict player movements is a skill that is gimped by players relying on motion tracker for too much info.
Difference between me and you and is that although I'm an advocate for no motion tracker, I would never say something like "the reason 'scrubs' don't want it is because they get donged on by better players without it.. but funny thing is, they get bodied by those same competitive players regardless, except one way they're gimping their progression as a player (if that's what they're interested in, improving at the game)" and hope people take my argument seriously.
Sure it may feel good to say it, and to some extent may be true, but it just makes your argument seem less credible IMO. Not saying I'm the best "debater" around, but I'm only disappointed because players like you exist where they probably haven't played too much Halo without motion tracker, yet they critique the other side as if those who oppose don't have experience with motion tracker on, just suck with it, or whatever other reason you come up with that involves emotions and blind rage speaking for them lol.
RowdyReverb
Member
Halo: MCC |OT| 1t's 2 extr3me 4 one disc
The numbers may be too much though
The numbers may be too much though
Blue Ninja
Member
Yeah - that was my vote.
squidhands
Member
Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| This Game Is Not A Natural Resolution
I have a better/meaner one but in light of the current thread's title change, I'll be a nicer person for a change.
I have a better/meaner one but in light of the current thread's title change, I'll be a nicer person for a change.
Nightfall trailer got me thinking.
Why has no developer used the Hunter Worms to do something more interesting. We got scarabs in H3 and thats about it. They can pretty much take any form.
Another note... Was the organic nature of the SpOps harvester ever explained. Is it a stylistic thing for the covenant?
This thing looks straight out of Gears of War. Even the inside was organic looking. It looked like it had a spine and skin.
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Why has no developer used the Hunter Worms to do something more interesting. We got scarabs in H3 and thats about it. They can pretty much take any form.
Another note... Was the organic nature of the SpOps harvester ever explained. Is it a stylistic thing for the covenant?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
lol CHAMPION title, and it may not be what we deserve, but it is what we need right now.
At least for the first day until the title is changed ;b
Just going off of personal experience, I've made it work enough times to find it viable. But this is just a typical Xbox Live experience and not necessarily a tournament/MLG scenario.
Agreed. This seemed like the fan favorite but a bunch of people apparently thought it was offensive to Bungie/Destiny
Worms that combine to form a GIANT WORM?
Lekgolo that could morph into different vehicles or attack/defense modes (to work in tandem with other allies) would be nifty (taking a page out of the pure flood form transformer).
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I've played plenty of Halo both with and without Radar.
What I'm saying is that I still don't understand how it's objectively better. It's different. It's almost like saying car racing is better that bike racing. They aren't really comparable from any standpoint. Radarless Halo is a different beast. I just think it's a fallacy that somehow Halo is better when Radar is off. Why exactly is it better? Even when it's a high level pro game. Surely if all those players can read a Radar well and use it to their advantage then it negates it's effectiveness. Maybe in scenarios where its 4 good players who can work well with a Radar against 4 who can't it's a different ball game but surely then the fault lies with the player.
I think people have some false assumptions that Radar off = Harder game because it's been a tradition of Pro gametypes
Welfare
Member
Even though I think the title is correct (<3 Halo 2), we don't want to hurt the feelings of others.
I'm just not a big fan of Moljnir Mix, it's just kinda boring in my opinion.
Okay, this one is my new favorite
(modified it slightly to look like what the OT title would be)
Okay, this one is my new favorite
(modified it slightly to look like what the OT title would be)
Zeouterlimits
Member
Moljnir Mix is pretty boring, but eh, whatever.
Halo: TMCC |OT| "All on one disc." "Were it so easy."
Tawpgun's is pretty good.
Oof, goddamn.
Halo: TMCC |OT| "All on one disc." "Were it so easy."
Tawpgun's is pretty good.
Blue Ninja
Member
But it's a joke. :'(
BeamImpact
Member
Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| 50 Shades of Brown on one Disk
or
Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| Falcon Flipping Simulator 2014
or
Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| Falcon Flipping Simulator 2014
21st century comedy can't actually hurt or offend anyone.
Meh, I guess can see how the bungie related title could ruffle a few feathers. But I still think something that doesn't even directly imply that Destiny was bad, but Halo is just better, is something only the thin skinned get upset over
I already forgot about that thing.
Nightfall trailer got me thinking.
Why has no developer used the Hunter Worms to do something more interesting. We got scarabs in H3 and thats about it. They can pretty much take any form.
Another note... Was the organic nature of the SpOps harvester ever explained. Is it a stylistic thing for the covenant?
This thing looks straight out of Gears of War. Even the inside was organic looking. It looked like it had a spine and skin.
The Harvester is the same breed as Scarabs. It's just another fucking large colony of Lekgolo.
Blue Ninja
Member
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| 4 birds, ⅔ stone, 1 patch
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Halo Master Chief Collection |OT| It's like 70gb and shit
my sides
ViewtifulJC
Banned
|OT| *Some Assembly Required, Multiplayer Not Included
OK now this one is good