Marvel's Phase 3 Announced: includes Black Panther, Captain Marvel

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Who do you think would be on each side? Both Cap and Iron Man have shown to have some distrust in authority, first Iron Man refusing to give the Iron Man tech to the government, and then everything Cap went through in Winter Soldier. Will be interesting to see how they make it work.
Tony was originally anti-registration too.

You can look at Civil War as liberty vs. security, which also permeated The Winter Soldier. When you take identities out of the picture it makes it kind of hard to see Cap's perspective, ironically.

After thinking about it a bit, I think it will come down to Tony supporting the idea of creating a system for accountability for bloodshed and formalizing their responsibility to protect people, and Cap siding with the idea that the emergence of another world authority cannot be trusted as it is way too much responsibility than they can humanly handle. If the World Security Council was fallible, so will Hill/Tony/Fury; and Cap is already extra not down with the idea because of Ultron. This is the only way I can think of where it can work, and I think it's plausible given the context of their relationship, and where Black Panther might mediate such a thing.
 
If only this costume was possible in the MCU
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Alas, i will live with the new suit, i just wonder if they will give her the combat helmet as well, if she is introduced in Guardians of the galaxy 2 i guess she would be using the combat helmet.....but i like her without, the weird hairstyle she has without the helmet is damn fine.

this costume is beyond weak imo
 
If only this costume was possible in the MCU
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Alas, i will live with the new suit, i just wonder if they will give her the combat helmet as well, if she is introduced in Guardians of the galaxy 2 i guess she would be using the combat helmet.....but i like her without, the weird hairstyle she has without the helmet is damn fine.

That costume won't fly in the MCU.
 
Saw someone point this out on Twitter but I think it bears repeating. We should be kind of glad that Marvel doesn't have all their characters at hand. If they had X-Men, Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, there is a much larger chance we'd wouldn't get the Black Panthers and Captain Marvels of the Marvel Universe. I'd still like to see them get their more popular characters back, but I think not having them has forced them to be more diligent in introducing characters the general public hasn't heard of.
 
Saw someone point this out on Twitter but I think it bears repeating. We should be kind of glad that Marvel doesn't have all their characters at hand. If they had X-Men, Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, there is a much larger chance we'd wouldn't get the Black Panthers and Captain Marvels of the Marvel Universe. I'd still like to see them get their more popular characters back, but I think not having them has forced them to be more diligent in introducing characters the general public hasn't heard of.
Yup. This forces them to take a lot more risks than they otherwise would.
 
Saw someone point this out on Twitter but I think it bears repeating. We should be kind of glad that Marvel doesn't have all their characters at hand. If they had X-Men, Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, there is a much larger chance we'd wouldn't get the Black Panthers and Captain Marvels of the Marvel Universe. I'd still like to see them get their more popular characters back, but I think not having them has forced them to be more diligent in introducing characters the general public hasn't heard of.

As much as the Fox X-Men films are... decent... I shudder to think of what a Marvel-made X-Men would look like.
 
If they kill of Stark... what if those rumoured Marvel / Sony / Spiderman stuff was about him potentially filling the marque spot in whatever future Avengers thing they do after in Phase 4?

Odds are they will reboot the spiderman movies again after the 3rd Amazing Spiderman movie if that even happens anyway so things would be lining up right.....
 
If only this costume was possible in the MCU
2725383-1625487_ms._marvel___flying_cho_lrg_super.jpg


Alas, i will live with the new suit, i just wonder if they will give her the combat helmet as well, if she is introduced in Guardians of the galaxy 2 i guess she would be using the combat helmet.....but i like her without, the weird hairstyle she has without the helmet is damn fine.

This is a shitty costume. Her Captain Marvel current one is leagues better.
 
As much as the Fox X-Men films are... decent... I shudder to think of what a Marvel-made X-Men would look like.

Even if Marvel got the rights back tomorrow, there have been too many preconceived notions surrounding the characters. They couldn't start fresh well, and keeping Jackman, McKellan, Stewart would be a lot of baggage. Plus they are all very matured in the roles already.

MCU should not even try to figure in X-Men. Even if they could do it right, I don't think it would ever be received well. Spidy still might work.
 
Even if Marvel got the rights back tomorrow, there have been too many preconceived notions surrounding the characters. They couldn't start fresh well, and keeping Jackman, McKellan, Stewart would be a lot of baggage. Plus they are all very matured in the roles already.

MCU should not even try to figure in X-Men. Even if they could do it right, I don't think it would ever be received well. Spidy still might work.

Even if Marvel got the rights back and decided to re-cast almost everyone, I could not imagine anyone other than Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Like, I try and it just doesn't compute.
 
Yes it would be. It will always secretly be Wolverine and those other guys.

Long as fox does them yes, it makes money so why rock the boat?

but if someone were trying to do an "Xmen" movie they would have a shit ton of characters to bring to life

Colossus
Gambit
Storm
Rogue
Jubilee
Psylocke
Bishop
Kitty
Wolverine
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Ice Man
Archangel
Beast
NightCrawler

... and the New Mutants / XForce and Xfactor were all big books but those Uncanny Xmen...damn. Everyone on that list has legions of fans from the decades of being the biggest book in comics.
 
Long as fox does them yes, it makes money so why rock the boat?

but if someone were trying to do an "Xmen" movie they would have a shit ton of characters to bring to life

Colossus
Gambit
Storm
Rogue
Jubilee
Psylocke
Bishop
Kitty
Wolverine
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Ice Man
Archangel
Beast
NightCrawler

... and the New Mutants / XForce and Xfactor were all big books but those Uncanny Xmen...damn. Everyone on that list has legions of fans from the decades of being the biggest book in comics.

If Marvel did X-Men Wolverine would be front and center, just like he often is in the comics and cartoons and everywhere else.
 
As a bit of fanservice they will have someone do a drawing of a costume, probably that one, and hand it to her, with a resounding "God no." finalizing on some variation of her current uniform. And the world will be much better for it.

Fucking Black Panther though! Played by a legit great actor. I hope it and Cpt. Marvel are huge successes. At least on the scale of Thor.
 
As much as the Fox X-Men films are... decent... I shudder to think of what a Marvel-made X-Men would look like.
This is pretty much how I feel. Fox films always seem to lack the attention to detail, characterization or some aspect of the film that makes me come out of the theatre wanting more.

Marvel just gets it from the jump. They understand the essence of the characters, maintain them, and then vary everything around that. As a huge X-Men fan, I still don't feel like Singer has captured a proper X-Men dynamic yet, and they haven't really come close since XM1&2. And then even those films have some pretty poor adaptations. Maybe 10 years from now I'll see similar shortcomings in Marvel's films but I doubt it.
 
X-Men having their own universe is the best thing that ever happened to them.

Seriously. I don't even think they work in the general Marvel comic universe. They should be in their own little world where people hate people with super powers. Otherwise I've never understood how the general Marvel citizen could tell the difference between a mutant and an Avenger.
 
This is pretty much how I feel. Fox films always seem to lack the attention to detail, characterization or some aspect of the film that makes me come out of the theatre wanting more.

Marvel just gets it from the jump. They understand the essence of the characters, maintain them, and then vary everything around that. As a huge X-Men fan, I still don't feel like Singer has captured a proper X-Men dynamic yet, and they haven't really come close since XM1&2. And then even those films have some pretty poor adaptations. Maybe 10 years from now I'll see similar shortcomings in Marvel's films but I doubt it.

That's a good way to put it, a lack of attention to detail. I really liked Days of Future Past, but I still felt the same after it as I did after every other X-Men movie, bad or good: that Fox just really doesn't care
 
It is so disappointing to see that Spiderman and Wolverine are involved in so many important moments in these series but will not be included in the films because of bullshit rights. They are such important super heroes for Marvel. Damn you Sony just give Marvel Spidey and keep that shitty Bond franchise.
 
That's a good way to put it, a lack of attention to detail. I really liked Days of Future Past, but I still felt the same after it as I did after every other X-Men movie, bad or good: that Fox just really doesn't care

Fox sees it as a necessity because if they don't use the rights, they lose the rights. Of course the films make money, which motivates Fox to continue to keep hold on the rights.
 
Is KATHERYN WINNICK really that good a choice?

Legit question, I've not seen her in anything ever.

Her introduction in Vikings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P2jLCbfaSI

I really wanted her for WW, but Capt Marvel would be good too.

She's a badass in real life. Has a couple of black belts and opened 3 martial arts schools.

+ 1 for Katheryn Winnick as Captain Marvel

Damn right.


I thought Ant Mans thing was shrinking while retaining mass. Can he control his mass too? That's pretty fucking awesome.

I disagree, since those are very specific aspects of the comedy genre. I don't think there's a "superhero" genre. They have tropes they play into, but Man of Steel isn't like Captain America: The Winter Soldier nor Guardians of the Galaxy

It's a better comparison than to all of comedy. Superhero movies are a small (although larger than historically) subset of action movies. Comedy is all of comedy in cinema. It's just a terrible comparison.

I think super hero movies will be fine for some time, but it is a bit of a bad comparison.
 
That's a good way to put it, a lack of attention to detail. I really liked Days of Future Past, but I still felt the same after it as I did after every other X-Men movie, bad or good: that Fox just really doesn't care

I felt the opposite. I leave Marvel movies feeling unsatisfied with the characters and their relationships to each other. Like the idea of creating this movieverse matters more than telling interesting stories.
 
It was Wolverine and the X-Men since the early 80's.

He was on every main team in Uncanny from the 80's until they split off into Uncanny and X-Men. He's been one of the few that has had a lasting solo comic. From there the TV show just heightened his popularity. Until the movies when Jackman came in. Now he's big enough to be a freaking Avenger while headlining multiple books (RIP for the year you get to rest Wolvie).

You're fooling yourself if you think a Marvel run X-Men movie series wouldn't follow the same basic formula of Singers. It'd still be Wolverine and the X-Men, but instead with a guy in a blue and yellow costume.
 
why would she even use her Ms.Marvel costume if its a Captain Marvel movie? O_o
 
Everyone has died in comics. Death is an aspect that doesnt mean anything anymore in superhero comics and part of why I cant take any story centered around it seriously.

I know. But I think this one will last for a little while at least because of how big of a deal they made out of the event and the fallout.
 
Seriously. I don't even think they work in the general Marvel comic universe. They should be in their own little world where people hate people with super powers. Otherwise I've never understood how the general Marvel citizen could tell the difference between a mutant and an Avenger.

I agree. I really like that the X-men universe is separate, and now that Fox essentially did a sequel/prequel/reboot all-in-one with the wonderful Days of Future Past, I can't wait to see more of Fox's X-men universe on it's own.
 
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