Marvel's Phase 3 Announced: includes Black Panther, Captain Marvel

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Apt101 said:
That would be great. They already have history, without really having history. It's clear they dislike core traits and motivations about one another. The age difference, despite Cap being "older", and their distant places in society. Oil and water. Plus RDJ could probably pull this off better than most working actors today.

Alas, I'm afraid the two characters will just be played against each other to push the plot.
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I have more faith in marvel than that. Rather than turn Tony into a complete heel like they did in the comics, I'm expecting them to team up by the end of the movie to face a much bigger threat (please oh please let it be modok)
 
I'm fine with Mordo for a first movie villain but there better be some encounters with Dormammu.

guek said:
I have more faith in marvel than that. Rather than turn Tony into a complete heel like they did in the comics, I'm expecting them to team up by the end of the movie to face a much bigger threat (please oh please let it be modok)
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I'm going to hold out hope that there's some US senator or something who is good at pushing Tony's buttons to make him go up against Cap and his morals. And that dude ends up being the Red Skull in disguise.

I definitely cannot see Tony being a shithead like he was in the comics version, but I think the shame of bringing Ultron into the world may be enough for him to surrender to the US government and help push their agenda, legitimately thinking he's making amends and making the world safer. That's the kind of argument where I can see reason on both ends. Millar and the other writers just went SO far out of their way to make Tony look like the bad guy.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
I'm fine with Mordo for a first movie villain but there better be some encounters with Dormammu.



I'm going to pray that there's some US senator who is good at pushing Tony's buttons to make him go up against Cap and his morals. And that Senator ends up being the Red Skull in disguise.
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Yeah I am sure Mordo will be an agent of Dormammu. Dormmau and The Mindless Ones is really a fight he will need help with. So Dr.Strange 2 should bring in Clea or Jennifer Kale.
 
gosox333 said:
So uhh...

What happens after phase 3 then?
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We all know Fox is gonna crash and burn the hell out of that next FF4 movie

MARVEL PHASE 4:
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Pai Pai Master said:
I'm going to hold out hope that there's some US senator or something who is good at pushing Tony's buttons to make him go up against Cap and his morals. And that dude ends up being the Red Skull in disguise.

I definitely cannot see Tony being a shithead like he was in the comics version, but I think the shame of bringing Ultron into the world may be enough for him to surrender to the US government and help push their agenda, legitimately thinking he's making amends and making the world safer. That's the kind of argument where I can see reason on both ends.
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Remnant PTSD from New York + Ultron shame makes Tony go... something something.
 
Hot Coldman said:
Dorm gonna get nerfed hard, y'all see
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Well he isn't that powerful in Earth's dimension unless some pretty specific shit goes down. But in his realm his pretty powerful. What people forget is that he isn't just a demon, he is actually from a race of beings that are pure mystical energy. Him and his sister are the rejects from that race.
 
DerZuhälter;136422562 said:
Oversaturization incoming.
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This is my concern it should be a real one for people. Bubbles burst. However I think if it does happen not everyone is going to be affected the same. The one to be screwed the most is likely to be Sony as they're already at the bottom. Fox might be okay with the core X-men films. Any spin offs might crash. Marvel if they keep making films that fit various genres that happen to have super heroes in them might be okay but they'll have to stop multi-films per year. Same with DC who might just bank on the team films for those not Superman and Batman. Assuming all goes well for them with BvS and SS.

That schedule we have for the next several years can not end well. Something has to give on some front and no way does Marvel come out of that okay either.
 
Effect said:
This is my concern it should be a real one for people. Bubbles burst. However I think if it does happen not everyone is going to be affected the same. The one to be screwed the most is likely to be Sony as they're already at the bottom. Fox might be okay with the core X-men films. Any spin offs might crash. Marvel if they keep making films that fix various genres that happen to have super heroes in them might be okay but they'll have to stop multi-films per year. Same with DC who might just bank on the team films for those not Superman and Batman.

That schedule we have for the next several years can not end well. Something has to give on some front.
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Or the global market grows and grows and they will be fine.
 
Non comic book fan here, only familiar with the movie universe. I have a question. Who are all the humans that we see in the other planets in Guardians ? Are they supposed to be from decedents of kidnapped people like Starlord, or are they .. local.. humanoids ?

because that movie made it seem like Earth is the only clueless planet as far as knowing about life outside itself (sans Thor) and pretty much every other galactic inhabited place knows about each other.
 
MasterBalls said:
I honestly wonder whether they're waiting to get rights back. How does Galactus stack up to Thanos in terms of threat, as a non-hardcore Marvel fan?
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This is what I'm thinking, especially after Kevin's comment on Spider-Man. I bet they're in talks. I mean, it's a win-win for both Disney and Sony, right?
 
Pai Pai Master said:
I'm fine with Mordo for a first movie villain but there better be some encounters with Dormammu.



I'm going to hold out hope that there's some US senator or something who is good at pushing Tony's buttons to make him go up against Cap and his morals. And that dude ends up being the Red Skull in disguise.

I definitely cannot see Tony being a shithead like he was in the comics version, but I think the shame of bringing Ultron into the world may be enough for him to surrender to the US government and help push their agenda, legitimately thinking he's making amends and making the world safer. That's the kind of argument where I can see reason on both ends. Millar and the other writers just went SO far out of their way to make Tony look like the bad guy.
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There are a lot of things I didn't like about Civil War although I did find it entertaining. Tony Stark becoming a borderline fascist didn't feel natural. He was a rebel at heart, and becoming a "good soldier" was awkward as hell. Peter Parker's complicity and his abandonment of his cherished anonymity was brave, but not believable to me. There was just a bunch of plot devices in play that didn't work on a fundamental level but made for a good story in the end.

I have a feeling that the need to keep things tighter and more relatable for wider movie-going audiences will keep Marvel from going the same route in the films. That said, I am still afraid the temptation is too strong to not have Stark and Rodgers be the polar opposite drivers of the Civil War story.
 
Effect said:
This is my concern it should be a real one for people. Bubbles burst. However I think if it does happen not everyone is going to be affected the same. The one to be screwed the most is likely to be Sony as they're already at the bottom. Fox might be okay with the core X-men films. Any spin offs might crash. Marvel if they keep making films that fit various genres that happen to have super heroes in them might be okay but they'll have to stop multi-films per year. Same with DC who might just bank on the team films for those not Superman and Batman. Assuming all goes well for them with BvS and SS.

That schedule we have for the next several years can not end well. Something has to give on some front and no way does Marvel come out of that okay either.
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Good movies are good movies though. If they keep up a consistent level of quality, people aren't just going to stop seeing their movies. Of course bubbles can burst, but I don't think it will be in this case. If anything, and I don't just say this because I want the rights to revert, it seems like Sony and Fox are more likely to cause fatigue for their franchises, as they seem to just be throwing spitballs at a wall and hoping they stick.
 
chandoog said:
Non comic book fan here, only familiar with the movie universe. I have a question. Who are all the humans that we see in the other planets in Guardians ? Are they supposed to be from decedents of kidnapped people like Starlord, or are they .. local.. humanoids ?

because that movie made it seem like Earth is the only clueless planet as far as knowing about life outside itself (sans Thor) and pretty much every other galactic inhabited place knows about each other.
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Long story short a race of Space Gods promote the humanoid shape through out the universe by genetic engineering races or just getting rid of the ones they don't like. But there are still plenty of non human looking aliens in marvel.
 
MasterBalls said:
Good movies are good movies though. If they keep up a consistent level of quality, people aren't just going to stop seeing their movies. Of course bubbles can burst, but I don't think it will be in this case. If anything, and I don't just say this because I want the rights to revert, it seems like Sony and Fox are more likely to cause fatigue for their franchises, as they seem to just be throwing spitballs at a wall and hoping they stick.
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This is exactly how i feel, the marvel movies are quality movies, it's not like they throw out these shitty movies with fan service to get people to see it, they're actually GOOD movies, so as long as the quality is there, they could go on years and years with people still going to them, the general casualgoers might not all still go, but a big enough audience will still go, the same cant be said for fox and sony lol
 
The beautiful thing about Strange is the way they are angling the movie. Although I'm very unsure about Scott Derrickson's talent (The Day the Earth Stood Still and Hellraiser: Inferno are garbage tier), Marvel went for a horror director and Feige has already said that Strange's world is unlike any other in the MCU, in the sense that they are looking forward to depict something close to Ditko's balls-out vision.

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Agreed, I'm honestly not worried about Derrickson's catalogue as neither of those movies strike me as something where he had a strong creative team and vision behind him. Feige will certainly have that for Doctor Strange, this project is as important to him as Iron Man and GOTG were.

I think it's gonna be another one of those surprisingly good results like the Russos with Cap 2 and Gunn with GOTG. And yeah, the way he described it as a "Steve Ditko acid trip through worlds" inspires a ton of faith, as well as him referencing directors like Kubrick and Miyazaki.
 
MasterBalls said:
Good movies are good movies though. If they keep up a consistent level of quality, people aren't just going to stop seeing their movies. Of course bubbles can burst, but I don't think it will be in this case. If anything, and I don't just say this because I want the rights to revert, it seems like Sony and Fox are more likely to cause fatigue for their franchises, as they seem to just be throwing spitballs at a wall and hoping they stick.
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True. Good movies are good movies and I hope that means this can continue even if the box offices might decrease a little.
 
MasterBalls said:
I honestly wonder whether they're waiting to get rights back. How does Galactus stack up to Thanos in terms of threat, as a non-hardcore Marvel fan?
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Galactus is a much bigger threat than vanilla Thanos, but Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet beats Galactus easily.
 
Funky Papa said:
The beautiful thing about Strange is the way they are angling the movie. Although I'm very unsure about Scott Derrickson's talent (The Day the Earth Stood Still and Hellraiser: Inferno are garbage tier), Marvel went for a horror director and Feige has already said that Strange's world is unlike any other in the MCU, in the sense that they are looking forward to depict something close to Ditko's balls-out vision.
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Hearing this (the horror director business) actually makes me even MORE excited for strange, like can you imagine if they venture into light horror stuff in that movie, i say light because im sure marvel wouldn't allow it to be too horror influenced lol

Edit: BUT marvel has surprised me in the past, so anything could go lol
 
Well that's the thing as well isn't it; it's hardly like in terms of tone or subject matter, the films are even similar. Guardians of the Galaxy is nothing like Dr Strange will be, most likely. Ant-Man will be nothing like Black Panther. Just because they share a universe doesn't mean they share everything else.
 
So pumped. I love how it all continues and ties together. James bonding the actors is the best thing they can do when the time comes so a reboot doesn't throw everything off.
 
MasterBalls said:
I honestly wonder whether they're waiting to get rights back. How does Galactus stack up to Thanos in terms of threat, as a non-hardcore Marvel fan?
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Well galactus is more of a cosmic natural disaster but not on a universal level. Thanos is a universal level threat but that's because he has greater ambitions. Galactus can't be reasoned or bargained with and is much more powerful but only ever eats planets.
 
guek said:
Well galactus is more of a cosmic natural disaster but not on a universal level. Thanos is a universal level threat but that's because he has greater ambitions. Galactus can't be reasoned or bargained with and is much more powerful but only ever eats planets.
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See it's the only thing I can see matching Thanos. But that said, I think trying to up the last threat every single time is a danger. Ultron (to begin with) isn't a threat on the level of the Chitauri/Loki, so perhaps they're already aware of that.

All I know is, I'll be waiting for the moment at the end of Infinity War Pt. 1 where the fight seems bleakest. Thanos has assembled all five gems, and doom seems inevitable. The Avengers are outnumbered and outgunned. Thanos begins to choke the life out of Iron Man, crushing his helmet inwards. Then... all of a sudden Kenny Loggin's "Highway to the Danger Zone" blares out from nowhere. The Milano cuts through the fog.... cut to credits.
 
I've said it before but while I'd enjoy a godd take on the F4, I mostly want them back at Marvel because of Doom.

Who has the rights to Annihilus?
 
Dabanton said:
She's a very basic actress. Works in small doses, her anchoring an entire movie? can't see it...

Emily Blunt would be a fantastic choice. She nailed it in Edge Of Tomorrow. But would she want to be locked into a potential franchise?
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You know why RDJ worked as Tony Stark? Because he essentially IS Tony Stark. Great casting sometimes means an actor doesn't need to "reach".

I'd argue, Katee Sackhoff IS Carol Danvers as she has been portrayed in many arcs. Strong, sarcastic, wry, confident, fighter-pilot bad-ass.

It doesn't matter if she can't be compelling in a staging of Shakespeare... she just has to be herself to pull off a perfect Captain Marvel.
 
Shame they havent announced a Namor movie, after getting their rights

would be pretty awesome to see an underwater movie about a guy who is sometimes a hero, sometimes a villain, but please dont let him be wearing a speedo
 
Funky Papa said:
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Wonderful!

Seeing this scene makes me wonder if we will get a scene at some point in the future where Thor talks to Cap and instructs/suggests he use the hammer? As in, since he saw Steve move it he starts to look at him differently and realise how worthy he really is.

Of course, it could just end up Thor dies/gets injured and Cap has to resort to trying the hammer as a last ditch effort to stop Thanos.

Either way, its gonna be a monumental moment, I can only imagine what audiences are going to be like since they have done a great job in reminding people that Thor is the only one worthy of using it.

The more I think about the MCU, the more I appreciate the subtle build-up they can do over the years, Cap slightly moving the hammer is a prime example of that.
 
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