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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S2 |OT| Can Secret Warriors Prevent A Civil War? - Off Season
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Ew no, no no, nooooooo.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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Jesus there is no comeback for ward now is there
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Depends on which universe/version. There's at least one origin where his ability came as a result of/exposure to something as an adult.
I don't recall this origin.
Even so, Ward is a bad fit for Taskmaster imo. He'd make a FAR better grim reaper.
I'd be on #TeamGrant even against S.H.I.E.L.D.
TacticalFox88
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I REALLY want him to fuck some shit up.
That speech Coulson gave him oddly pissed me off.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Hmmm, that's wrong. 616 Taskmaster had his abilities as a kid. One of the best stories he tells from his childhood is watching professional divers, climbing up to the diving board, and performing a perfect dive and only realizing he didn't actually know how to swim until he was in the water.
TacticalFox88
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You forgot to put me on #teamgrant. I'll forgive it this time.
Anybody think that maybe instead of an alien that Skye is an inhuman? Somebody said something earlier about the diviner begin inhuman tech. Seems plausible.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
You mean Tripp hasn't been dead all season?
Great episode, loved the Bobbi/Hunter interactions, the fights and all that.
I also love the new ruthless Skye and Simmons
Love the interactions and Thor "oh shit" face XD
For our next title I proposed HEAVENSWARD, depending on which Ward is deserving of it.
I also love the new ruthless Skye and Simmons
For two weeks from now you mean
Excellent, thanks for the link!
Love the interactions and Thor "oh shit" face XD
I really loved that part, guess some of Hydra got to her.
OHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT
Well, that's because it is!
For our next title I proposed HEAVENSWARD, depending on which Ward is deserving of it.
I'm #TeamThomas
Grant can beat lie detectors, as shown last season.
*brofist*
The show is seemingly setting up the Inhumans and Tripp (at least) is going to be in AoU. I'll guess there is going to be some crossover with the Netflix series or some mention of it at least.
May was called "The Cavalry" and was said to be up there with Natasha, so it makes total sense that she'd be capable of fighting someone of that level.
*swoon*my other favourite bobbi moment
The timer didn't matter once Skye's father brought the Diviner to Hydra himself, still she's probably in "hiding" (because SHIELD put a tracker on her).
He was said to have "off the charts hand-eye coordination" and he's quite skilled, so the potential is there. He'll probably have a nice casual encounter with the Diviner and then start wearing a skull mask.
How it should have been in the actual episode.
Except.
WRONG.
Besides, its the majority of the staff that made the other Whedon shows plus he informs a lot of the MCU.
Wasn't Tripp confirmed for Age of Ultron?
BrokenFiction
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What staff does everyone mean? Like the crew? Maybe because it is a Mutant Enemy show. So I wouldn't doubt there'd be a ton of career crew members. Jed and Maurissa worked on Dollhouse., one or two others as well iirc. I don't think they've had any Buffy or Angel writers so far. A few directors maybe but the way TV direction works is that they all end up working on a ton of shows. J Augustus and Amy Acker in guest starring roles.
As for Joss advising on TV he's probably been too busty with AoU. Also Feige said TV and movies are two different departments.
As for Joss advising on TV he's probably been too busty with AoU. Also Feige said TV and movies are two different departments.
From the episode where he's in Juvi and Garrett visits him: "Your hand-eye coordination is off the charts."
BlackNMild2k1
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Jest Chillin
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Grant didn't exactly beat the lie detector actually. If I remember correctly he used pain to try to deceive the machine and still couldn't. He masked his deception by admitting his feelings for Skye and simply misdirected Koenig.
Getting Taskmaster from that is quite a stretch
Keep in mind this is MCU taskmaster. Stuff shifts.
Marathoned Season 1 and the first six episodes of Season 2 over the last few days. I had been watching the show week to week last year, but quickly dropped it after hating the first few episodes. A few friends had been saying for a while now that that it did get better though, and knowing that the events of TWS should have serious (and potentially awesome) implications for the show, I gave it another chance. Glad I did! It might have been because I had appropriately low expectations going in, but I found Season 1 fairly easy to get through. Sure, the first five episodes are terrible, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed Ep6 (F.Z.Z.T.), and I'd say the only genuinely 'bad' episode after that is Ep9 (Repairs).
Anyway, Season 2 has been really solid so far! Coulson feels a lot more like his movie-self which is great to see, and Skye is much improved. I do agree that she's kind of losing what made her a unique member of the team though, and morphing into a mini-May. Hopefully they hurry up and reveal her race soon so she can start dealing with that. Not only has this been overdue for about half a season already, but it would really help with setting her apart again.
I really enjoyed the Absorbing Man, and hope that isn't the last we see of him. Was actually hoping he'd be the new Deathlok of the season, but oh well. Mockingbird is already great, and Lance Hunter is growing on me now that he can play off her. Mack is cool, and his relationship with Fitz is nice. I'm not a huge fan of what they are doing with Fitz though. He ended up as my favourite character in Season 1, and I just want him back to normal...but I also don't want it to be a cheap miracle drug cure or something like that. The actor has given a really impressive performance so far though - Iain is definitely one of the best actors on the show.
I don't understand the Tripp hate. He's charismatic and very likeable, more than Ward ever was. I know he hasn't had much to do so far, but I have faith that this will change once the actor's schedule opens up, and honestly having background agents we know personally isn't a bad thing at all. Helps make S.H.I.E.L.D feel bigger.
Hmm...what else? Whitehall is fantastic. Raina is still great. Talbot is cool too. Not really sure about Skye's dad yet, but I know the actor has chops. If the writers attempt to give Ward a redemption arc, they can fuck right off. I think he's telling the truth about Christian though.
Anyway, Season 2 has been really solid so far! Coulson feels a lot more like his movie-self which is great to see, and Skye is much improved. I do agree that she's kind of losing what made her a unique member of the team though, and morphing into a mini-May. Hopefully they hurry up and reveal her race soon so she can start dealing with that. Not only has this been overdue for about half a season already, but it would really help with setting her apart again.
I really enjoyed the Absorbing Man, and hope that isn't the last we see of him. Was actually hoping he'd be the new Deathlok of the season, but oh well. Mockingbird is already great, and Lance Hunter is growing on me now that he can play off her. Mack is cool, and his relationship with Fitz is nice. I'm not a huge fan of what they are doing with Fitz though. He ended up as my favourite character in Season 1, and I just want him back to normal...but I also don't want it to be a cheap miracle drug cure or something like that. The actor has given a really impressive performance so far though - Iain is definitely one of the best actors on the show.
I don't understand the Tripp hate. He's charismatic and very likeable, more than Ward ever was. I know he hasn't had much to do so far, but I have faith that this will change once the actor's schedule opens up, and honestly having background agents we know personally isn't a bad thing at all. Helps make S.H.I.E.L.D feel bigger.
Hmm...what else? Whitehall is fantastic. Raina is still great. Talbot is cool too. Not really sure about Skye's dad yet, but I know the actor has chops. If the writers attempt to give Ward a redemption arc, they can fuck right off. I think he's telling the truth about Christian though.
Just noticed that the tech Black Widow uses to short out TWS's arm is the same thing Deathlok used to induce Ward's heart attack back in S1 of AoS. Also, damn the fight choreography in TWS was amazing. It's easily my favourite Marvel film so far.
Marvel haven't been shifting stuff that much.
Mandarin.
Jest Chillin
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All Hail The King one-shot says otherwise.
Lone_Prodigy
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I wonder if we'll see any Deathlok costumes this Halloween.
Rather than make a redemption story for Ward, I'd rather see him go full blown 100% evil. Maybe have senator Ward be involved in breaking his mind somehow.
I don't want Ward to die...and that's pretty much the only way he'd be able to redeem himself at all. So go the other direction and make him a legit super villain.
And I'm telling you guys, Grim Reaper fits so much better than Taskmaster. Check out some of this history:
Simon eventually becomes Wonder Man but not before seemingly dying and causing Eric to go full out villain, strap a scythe to his arm, and try to destroy the avengers. If they bring in Grant's younger brother as a stand in for Simon, they could get both Wonder Man and Grim Reaper for the show.
C'mon, Marvel, you know you wanna!
I don't want Ward to die...and that's pretty much the only way he'd be able to redeem himself at all. So go the other direction and make him a legit super villain.
And I'm telling you guys, Grim Reaper fits so much better than Taskmaster. Check out some of this history:
Simon eventually becomes Wonder Man but not before seemingly dying and causing Eric to go full out villain, strap a scythe to his arm, and try to destroy the avengers. If they bring in Grant's younger brother as a stand in for Simon, they could get both Wonder Man and Grim Reaper for the show.
C'mon, Marvel, you know you wanna!
StarCreator
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Just what I needed... been working long nights all week and just when I finally get a chance to sit down and catch this week's episode, I find the DVR failed to download guide data sometime last week and hasn't recorded anything since Saturday. I don't have any sort of paid TV service so I can't even watch it on ABC's own website until Tuesday.
WoolyNinja
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my other favourite bobbi moment
She would've been a great Wonder Woman
Weapxn
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But she's a better Mockingbird. Avengers 3 better use the hell out of her. And hopefully she'll pop up in Cap 3 too.
She's a great supporting actress, but Marvel needs to keep her as a regular. Plus her and Hunter going back and worth with that double tap was awesome. Hope to see more of their hatemance lol
MHWilliams
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I love Tripp, they just given him nothing to do this season. Mack has done more.
As I said earlier, is it really all that bad that some characters aren't in the focus for longer periods of time? He's the pilot and so far there hasn't been much piloting drama that would require them to put focus on him. We see him interacting with different characters at different times and I don't see it as a bad thing that he gets along with pretty much everyone, doesn't have some huge drama every week and just kind is there to flesh out the team. I'm sure he'll have his time in the spotlight, maybe now that his former, evil commanding officer's (or whatever) other protige has escaped and if they try to catch him at some point.
Hours Left
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But he didn't make much of an impression last season either IMO, and this year he's been almost non-existent. I totally agree with you that not every character needs to be at the forefront all the time, but when said character never has had a chance to establish himself and numerous characters that have come afterward have already surpassed him in meaningful contributions to the narrative, it means that it's time for the writers to do something about it. I like Tripp, but as it stands now, if they killed him off next episode I probably would not be that dismayed. I don't think I could say the same for any other member of the team right now, and even a handful of the villains.
I think it's more than just bro time. There's been enough hinting to make me believe it'll be more than that, and I truly hope they follow through with it.
Tripp is barely even a character at this point. He's entirely pointless.
For those of you who watched Enterprise, he's Ensign Mayweather status if not worse. Theoretically he's part of the main team, but he contributes literally nothing to the show other than "Aye, sir" and "hey somebody who actually has something to do with the plot wants to talk to you".
Hours Left
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Really? It seems pretty obvious to me from all the hints, and I don't just mean in a fanwank type way. Whether or not they actually follow through will be seen, but I don't think it's hard to recognize what sort of vibe they are putting out there. (Fitz straight out said he finds Mack attractive to imaginary Simmons.)
That might be the only legitimate one though. Which is probably just his insecurities about Simmons. What I see is Mack being really friendly with everyone especially with Fitz. What I don't see is the point of the character. Hunter is there to play out the "will he or won't he join SHIELD" arc. Bobbi is the badass named character mostly there for fanwank. Tripp is in a weird holding pattern due to other commitments. Mack though is just kind of there and coming off as likeable. You know an new Eric Keoning. Ripe for emotional drama later on.
Yeah, they do need to give him some attention some time in the future. I'm thinking maybe they have the same kind of "reasons" to keep him in the background this season as they had to kind of not doing anything meaningful with the overall story because they had to wait until Winter Soldier to fuck things up last season. Isn't he in Age of Ultron? Maybe they don't want to start doing some stuff on him too early if his future storylines involve AoU, but are failing at coming up with good ways of keeping him as a big(ger) part of the current storylines without taking away from other people's character development. Maybe he's just around as such a static character because they need to have him around to not lose him from the show altogether. So they fill his minimum screentime (almost) every week to keep him around because they do have some longer term plans for him, but their plans for him won't come into play until later in the season. So it's a fail from the showrunners much like the first half of last season, but on a smaller, character-specific scale.
Still, I maintain it that I don't think it really takes away from the show all that much that they have someone like Tripp just hanging there, doing some essential work mostly unseen & unheard. It doesn't create interest in Tripp's character, but I don't obsess over it and maybe they want it to stay that way until they are actually doing something with his character.
He is in another show that is currently filming on BET Being Mary Jane. It might be as simple as that. He just isn't available because they do a lot of on location filming.
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