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[Jacobi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcyF107Awk

The snippet is actually pretty funny (his nicki flow). I just wonder why he always raps on pretty bad beats

 

[backflip10019]

It's a song. When they talk about killing people nobody bats an eye.

For some reason, talking about killing people isn't taken as seriously as talking about raping someone. Kind of fucked up when you think about it.

 

[Megalosaro]

Fuck them both. I wish society wouldn't idolize such frivolous shit.

 

[Syntsui]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcyF107Awk

The snippet is actually pretty funny (his nicki flow). I just wonder why he always raps on pretty bad beats

If only he had the Rozay's ears for beats... It's such a waste being so good rapping but wasting the talent on shit beats =/

 

[Dyno]

On one hand, it's a vile sentiment Em is evoking. On the other hand, it's pure theatre.

Tons of rappers take on the role of criminal or outright villain when they perform. They talk of robbery, drug dealing, snatching watches and necklaces, defending territory with murder, rape. Fuck man, Easy E spit a rhyme about forcing his dick in an opponents mouth and pissing on him.

It's all fake as fuck and really means nothing. It mostly a bunch of dudes pretending that they're Tony Montana.

If you think his verses contribute to rape culture or something like that you may have a point, I don't know for sure one way or the other. That said, if you think rap is in any way artistic you can explain away these horrid themes as an exploration of evil. "Look at what you created world! You've created me, a repugnant monster."

At the very least it brings attention to the work. No rapper wants to say something only to be ignored.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

What a cunt.

 

[Rad-]

That's dumb by him but this line

And I think with my d**k so come blow my mind

is awesome.

 

[Kurdel]

He is basically the male Avril Lavigne.

Aiming for the same teenage age group for the last 15
years, who would think the idea of punching Lana del Ray hilarious.

 

[The Horror the horror]

Eminem's problem is that he can't reconcile his music with his present lifestyle. With his first album, he could rap about being broke, angry, confused...because these were legitimate grievances. He's in his 40s now; he's rich; and he's unable to rap about his present situation while making it sound interesting at the same time. He can't do it. So instead of reading a fucking book or becoming more socially conscious and translating this new-found awareness to music, he returns to his safe shtick. Pathetic. Anyone remembers when he used to diss old rappers for staying in the game too long?

 

[Chuckie]

That's dumb by him but this line



is awesome.

And really really old.

 

[MrCunningham]

Tactless as fuck.

Would you expect anything less from Eminem? This seems like business as usual from both parties, if you ask me. Eminem slams a current popular artist in a ludicrous way to make some headlines in the media while the other one makes a dismissive comment in return to gain a few more popularity points with a younger audience.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

They are, and they are just as out of touch as he is.

Jigga has been awful for a while. At least Nas' record label is signing real talent.

Jay-Z was never good and Nas has always put out great music with the exception of Nastradamus.

This doesn't surprise me at all with Eminem considering his history of songs.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

Em been doing this his whole career. Gonna sell a billion copies now!

 

[GungHo]

He is basically the male Avril Lavigne.

While I do doubt Avril's commitment to hygiene, I do not think she shits in her own car.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I can't imagine getting upset at Eminem lines in 2014. I felt old when parent groups threw a fit over Britney Spears a couple years ago, and this makes me want to get an AARP card.

Eminem was rapping about raping his mom nearly 20 years ago. This is nothing new, nothing will be done about this, and the fans of his wack cornball music couldn't care less. Dude is a 40 year old man with an 18yo daughter rapping about poop, sloppy joes, and rape. Why does anyone care at this point? At least he could rap back in the day, now all he does is scream off beat over shitty production, which only impresses people who don't listen to rap outside of his music.

Stop falling for his shit.

 

[Mesoian]

Jay-Z was never good and Nas has always put out great music with the exception of Nastradamus.

This doesn't surprise me at all with Eminem considering his history of songs.

Eh...Reasonable Doubt is PRETTY GOOD. I'd say Jay Z was good up until the Blueprint. Everything after that though...::shakes head::

As for NAS, distant relatives and life is good were pretty bad.

 

[Syntsui]

Eh...Reasonable Doubt is PRETTY GOOD. I'd say Jay Z was good up until the Blueprint. Everything after that though...::shakes head::

As for NAS, distant relatives and life is good were pretty bad.

You shook your head at The Black Album? Wow... ok, I guess.

 

[liger05]

Why is this taking so seriously?

 

[Exr]

The outrage over this is predictable and hilarious. Come on people.

 

[Mesoian]

You shook your head at The Black Album? Wow... ok, I guess.

Wait, I thought the Black album was before the blueprint because it got remixed with everything under the sun.

Edit: Alright, I'll rephrase and say that everything after Kingdom Come was garbage. I do quite like the Black Album, but I like what it became when people like Dangermouse took it and threw out all the garbage beats.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Wait, I thought the Black album was before the blueprint because it got remixed with everything under the sun.

iirc, Black Album then Kingdom Come then American Gangster.

 

[Mesoian]

TLR - Both Jay Z and Nas haven't been good for 10 years and are only relevant as businessmen in the music industry and not as artists or performers. The generation of kids listening to rap music now have never experienced Jay Z or NAS being new and good, and it looks like they will never experience Eminem do it either.

But I still expect Eminem to preform at the MTV video music awards.

 

[Jakoo]

God what a desperate grasp at relevancy.

Odd Future got somewhat known because of their shock lyrics about rape, and even since then, have basically all but stopped making the content of their music about that, and they are like years old now. How embarrassing for for a 40 year old man trying to channel a "younger" version of himself with shock lyrics. Dude needs to evolve his music, this is just kind of sad.

 

[Lothar]

God what a desperate grasp at relevancy.

Odd Future got somewhat known because of their shock lyrics about rape, and even since then, have basically all but stopped making the content of their music about that, and they are like years old now. How embarrassing for for a 40 year old man trying to channel a "younger" version of himself with shock lyrics. Dude needs to evolve his music, this is just kind of sad.

Well he did evolve and people hated it.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Eh...Reasonable Doubt is PRETTY GOOD. I'd say Jay Z was good up until the Blueprint. Everything after that though...::shakes head::

As for NAS, distant relatives and life is good were pretty bad.

Nah, both of those are some of his best works. As never fails and he is greatest rapper of all time and in the whole cosmos, but I'll leave it at that. This thread is about Eminem.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Im amazed Eminem had managed to rustle so many jimmies on here.

#rapgod Still has it I suppose.

 

[BobbyRobby]

Eminem makes his money by shocking people.

It's a weird symbiotic relationship that Eminem has with outraged media/bloggers.

And it's really funny to see people reporting on him while calling him irrelevant.

 

[Stet]

Well he did evolve and people hated it.

Maybe he's just not relevant anymore. Shocker!

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Maybe he's just not relevant anymore. Shocker!

Numbers don't lie

He's still very relevant

 

[The Horror the horror]

Well he did evolve and people hated it.

How did people hate it? Because it didn't sell 10 million copies?

 

[And_Gignac]

He has always had these disgusting misogynistic, homophobic lyrics and yet he never received an ounce of the criticism, for instance, Macklemore got. Fucking double standards.

 

[massivekettle]

He has always had these disgusting misogynistic, homophobic lyrics and yet he never received an ounce of the criticism, for instance, Macklemore got. Fucking double standards.

Because Eminem is authentic whilst Macklemore is a manufactured artist.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Because Eminem is authentic whilst Macklemore is a manufactured artist.

Isn't Macklemore an independent artist? Hardly manufacturered just because he's popular

 

[diunxx]

Isn't she supposed to be an MC? She should answer on wax or shut the fuck up.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

He has always had these disgusting misogynistic, homophobic lyrics and yet he never received an ounce of the criticism, for instance, Macklemore got. Fucking double standards.

Criticism from whom? Other rappers? Well, that's because his lyrics were fire and he could (and probably still) could roast the hell out of a lot of them with lyrics. He's still got skill and has been cosigned by legends: living and dead.

Criticism from people? He's had a lot of that too, all throughout his career. This is revisionist history type shit, saying that he hasn't. There is only one time he ended up apologizing, for crossing the line though.

Macklemore got criticized, because everyone and their mom (including him), knew he didn't deserve the awards. He couldn't even front like he was the best rapper, and was copping pleas by posting up texts to Kendrick. That shit with the Jewish stereotype got his ass in trouble too

Want to talk double standards, then bring up the fact that he's the only mainstream rapper that can get away with shit in this day and age. Everyone else loses money and endorsements, and has to apologize. Word to Rick Ross.

 

[besada]

He has always had these disgusting misogynistic, homophobic lyrics and yet he never received an ounce of the criticism, for instance, Macklemore got. Fucking double standards.

Do you seriously believe that Eminem never got criticized for his lyrics? My memory of his appearance on the scene was nigh hysteria about how misogynist and homophobic his lyrics were.

 

[Phat Michael]

Freestyle battle is necessary. Em will smoke her very very easily.he's really good at freestyling. I loved some of the behind the scenes shots on the 8 mile DVD.

 

[DopeToast]

Yeah, he's forty and maybe he could be more creative with his lyrics. But they are lyrics, and aren't necessarily indication of intention or actual feelings. Same as with poetry, same as with books, movies. It's not good to judge a writer based on fiction, which is what most of these songs are.

Calling someone out by name is weird, but Eminem has been doing this for years. Hip-hop has had a lot of violent images in their songs. It's not necessarily right, but I just try to treat it the same way I would other art or fiction.

 

[Sai-kun]

On one hand, it's a vile sentiment Em is evoking. On the other hand, it's pure theatre.

Tons of rappers take on the role of criminal or outright villain when they perform. They talk of robbery, drug dealing, snatching watches and necklaces, defending territory with murder, rape. Fuck man, Easy E spit a rhyme about forcing his dick in an opponents mouth and pissing on him.

It's all fake as fuck and really means nothing. It mostly a bunch of dudes pretending that they're Tony Montana.

If you think his verses contribute to rape culture or something like that you may have a point, I don't know for sure one way or the other. That said, if you think rap is in any way artistic you can explain away these horrid themes as an exploration of evil. "Look at what you created world! You've created me, a repugnant monster."

At the very least it brings attention to the work. No rapper wants to say something only to be ignored.

I totally agree with your post and especially the bolded, but I think things change (for better or worse idk) when someone gets explicitly mentioned by name. I guess that's my issue with this. And just because 'he's been doing it for years' doesn't really make it okay, in my book.

 

[Drifter_InA_Cage]

The full song in question, sounds like he's Imitating Nicki at the start of the song and Bizarre when he says the lines about Iggy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeKxxB8rST8

It's a song titled Vegas by bad meets evil, are people really offended by this? Lol

 

[EulaCapra]

Iggy's response is perfect. Especially the part about her brother.

Say what you want about Iggy, but more and more she's seen being an advocate of supporting women in the entertainment industry and shrugging off men (and women) trying to pit them against each other.

 

[-MD-]

Maybe he's just not relevant anymore. Shocker!

And yet here we are talking about him 400 posts deep on a video game forum.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Thats because Rihanna is a sellout and is used to being abused,

Whoa

 

[studyguy]

Thats because Rihanna is a sellout and is used to being abused,

 

[PhoenixDark]

Isn't she supposed to be an MC? She should answer on wax or shut the fuck up.

She's not an MC. She's a model who recites the raps TI writes for her.

Speaking of TI, will he call Eminem like he called Snoop?

 

[IrishNinja]

I do quite like the Black Album, but I like what it became when people like Dangermouse took it and threw out all the garbage beats.

Jay-Z was never good

these are the most offensive things in this thread so far, jesus christ

TLR - Both Jay Z and Nas haven't been good for 10 years .

Life is Good and everything we've heard since have been solid, FOH

 

[IrishNinja]

jesus i was wrong, here's more terribleness

EM>your favorite rapper

Rap is for kids, by kids. Time to move your middle aged ass on.

Young Jeezy is and will always be the true Rap King.

I dont think I understand rap music.

Is singing about raping and beating women supposed to be serious, or some sort of parody?

It doesn't come of as funny, just mean spirited.

what if these rappists rapped about something other than raping and beating women tho

People forget em isn't an artist never has been never will be, he's rapper, a lyricist or what have you.

what does this even mean

At least he's not wearing a shirt with half naked women on it. So there's that.

ahaha always a silver lining~

Its rap, its all shit. Over inflated egos mouthing off rapping about all the same shit. I dont know why. All the girls carrying on about their favourite rap artist that spends most of their time talking about slapping bitches etc, then are shocked when their rapper boyfriend beats them or treats them like shit. Female rappers just being bitchy and shaking their ass mm off the camera. The whole thing is a shit show.

jesus, this is not-so-lowkey a racist-ass post, but please, continue on about your favorite caricatures

man Em threads really bring out the best in OT

 

[Moonkid]

In an alternate universe, I imagine Eminem changed his bad-boy image and became a Buddhist.

 

[Village]

Edit: Alright, I'll rephrase and say that everything after Kingdom Come was garbage. I do quite like the Black Album, but I like what it became when people like Dangermouse took it and threw out all the garbage beats.

1) garbage, no.

2) grey album not even the best version, thats kno vs hov

 

[massivekettle]

Isn't Macklemore an independent artist? Hardly manufacturered just because he's popular

By that I meant that he is very generic. Appeals to the crowds, tries to follow trends, etc.And he's not exactly independent:

The truth is that Macklemore and Ryan Lewis hired a company to help them get their music into stores. That company, Alternative Distribution Alliance, is an arm of Warner Music Group, one of the most major of the major labels.

On the other hand, Eminem's identity is a byproduct of his difficult upbringing, etc.