Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Well it's pretty much true at this point. 3DS is one hell of a system! It's one of my favs right now!
NoA: "there are more great games on Nintendo platforms than anywhere else!"
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CentralScrutinizer
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I am a littler confused, people are complaining that nintendo uses user scores, but doesn't it also say regular meta critic score of 85+? So what they're saying is professional reviewers and users agree this game is quality? In my opinion, this makes their claim more credible when both users and reviewers agree.
Well using user scores makes actually more sense than using the "review" scores done by "professional" sites like IGN, Polygon and so on, that are seeing "Oscar-caliber drama"s and are giving out 10/10 like candy as soon as the publisher orders a bit of ad-space on their site.
For quite a few games the user score makes way more sense than the "professional" "review" score. Just take a look at for example NieR.
And for the games Nintendo listed there isn't actually a huge difference between those "professional" reviews and the actual user reviews. At least for the Wii U side. I don't care enough to check the 3DS side.
Bayonetta 1 86 / 9.1
Bayonetta 2 91 / 9.1
Smash Bros 92 / 9.0
3D World 93 / 9.0
Mario Kart 88 / 9.1
Wind Waker 90 / 8.9
Rayman Legends 92 / 8.5
Pikmin 3 87 / 8.6
Khaos_Knight
Banned
It's the "Nintendo" difference.
Nintendo also gets a free pass for doing the absolute minimum to support their consoles while 3rd parties get crucified for doing the same.
The Holy Church of Nintendo can do no wrong.
The irony of this post.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Half of this sentence is BS and the other part doesn't make any sense.
Shhh, let them keep going.
Khaos_Knight
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I'll clarify, the Nintendo crowd is very lenient on Nintendo for allowing long droughts of games on their consoles. Meanwhile, they heavily criticize third party publishers for doing the same on Nintendo consoles.
poorlonelycomputer
Member
Butthurt in this thread is off the charts. We're you delicate flowers this offended by Sega ads in the early '90s?
geordiemp
Member
GAF is a very different perspective over general gamers.
For example, GAF goes nuts over nostalgic things like if Crash would be returning....I could go on, you get the idea.
WiiU is not in the console race, its hardly on the radar - take a look through any console sales thread...its not competing at all.
Things like Bayonetta 2 etc are big with some very vocal but tiny slice of the gaming market - the game bombed.
Everything about this sentence is wrong. Everything.
Beelzebufo
Banned
"Nuh uh"
Orniletter
Banned
You aren´t supposed to understand that the picture in the OP is just marketing material with handcrafted rules to make the advertised product look good.
You are meant to drag fanboy drivel like "the church of Nintendo" into this and assert that Nintendo fans are somehow hypocritical....or don´t even look at the picture in the OP and say " DISAGREE, system XYZ is far better !" .
crazy monkey
Banned
was this joke or serious? the system is nice. I can't understand have people played all of the games already mentioned in op? for the general population that is more then enough gaming for a year atleast. other then hard code gamers, people do not want to spend 60 bucks every month. i have never spent more then 25 on game and game listed are truly good.
I'm not sure you know what irony means. Wii U is probably my least played console.
fluffydelusions
Member
Huh? You do know Nintendo is only one company and can only do some much, right? I like how you use the word "allowing" like it's their goal to do that. It's not like they may have limited manpower and therefore can't release a game every week.
Psycho_Mantis
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Just no. User reviews in a lot of cases are laughable. Just look at the negatives and you will see comments that will make your head hurt coupled with scores of 0 and 10's galore for little reason. Its a joke.
The only reason this silly metric is used by NoA is create the image that WiiU/3DS has more "quality" games.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
So what's your excuse for the huge droughts on PS4 and X1 its first year?
StayGaming
Banned
Any gamer already knows this
"The church of Nintendo", yet we aren't meant to drag fanboy drivel into this. Good on you for being a massive hypocrite.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
This post makes my head hurt.
Outside of 1st party games, what kind of drought was there on the two consoles?
Beelzebufo
Banned
Isn't it a good sign if people aren't crowding your games to give it 0s though? Like people give the game 0s when they don't like it for whatever reason.
Orniletter
Banned
My post was reeking of sarkasm, Khaos_Knight was the one who used the "church of Nintendo"-shit 
. It was written from the perspective of someone who is incredibly offended by this absolutely harmless ad.
. It was written from the perspective of someone who is incredibly offended by this absolutely harmless ad.Poe´s law in full effect :U
Because good games take time, which is something we've been able to reliably anticipate from Nintendo. If Microsoft or Sony were on their own and not jerking off the big Three AAA, they'd have the same crappy situation
My post was reeking of sarkasm, Khaos_Knight was the one who used the "church of Nintendo"-shit
Poe´s law in full effect :U
My apologies friend.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
Funny part is, they are jerking off AAA publishers who are releasing AAA rushed garbage.
entremet
Member
I think you don't know what arrogant means, nor will I ever trust you in marketing anything.
It's not? News to me.
So just like some of those "professional" reviews.
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/zombiu-review/1900-6400225/
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze-review/1900-6415667/
Are you blind or something? The average user score is around the same as the average "professional" scores (I guess super trustworthy to you), that were given out for Wii U games. I just listed them. Right in the post you quoted.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
Look at the guys post history. Ignore him. He is one of the biggest Sony homers, anti-Nintendo psychos on GAF.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but there's a few simple statistical reasons why the user scores for Wii U games are higher than PS4 and XB1.
> Most Wii U games are niche in the grand scheme of console gaming. They barely sell. Why is this relevant? Because the vast majority of the people who will post user scores for them are people who have actually bought and played the games, thus getting higher user scores. Mainstream games like CoD get FAR more criticism and backlash. Most mainstream console gamers haven't even heard of these Wii U games.
> There's a legit rivalry between PS4 fanboys and XB1 fanboys. They will give far more 1s and 10s respectively than Wii U user scores because Wii U doesn't exist in there eyes. Console warring to them is just PS4 vs XB1. Wii U is niche and irrelevant for them.
> The size of the Nintendo fanbase is disproportionately high on the Internet for whatever reason. I'm probably going to get shit for this one while people ignore the two above but it's true. There's tons of Nintendo fans on NeoGAF yet the Wii U sells 75k consoles per month on NPD. They're an extremely vocal and passionate fanbase.
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> Most Wii U games are niche in the grand scheme of console gaming. They barely sell. Why is this relevant? Because the vast majority of the people who will post user scores for them are people who have actually bought and played the games, thus getting higher user scores. Mainstream games like CoD get FAR more criticism and backlash. Most mainstream console gamers haven't even heard of these Wii U games.
> There's a legit rivalry between PS4 fanboys and XB1 fanboys. They will give far more 1s and 10s respectively than Wii U user scores because Wii U doesn't exist in there eyes. Console warring to them is just PS4 vs XB1. Wii U is niche and irrelevant for them.
> The size of the Nintendo fanbase is disproportionately high on the Internet for whatever reason. I'm probably going to get shit for this one while people ignore the two above but it's true. There's tons of Nintendo fans on NeoGAF yet the Wii U sells 75k consoles per month on NPD. They're an extremely vocal and passionate fanbase.
/2cents
Beelzebufo
Banned
I think he meant that lots of games on other platforms with Metascores above 85 have nuked user scores.
Oddvintagechap
Banned
Are you even allowed to include Pokemon X and Y?
might as well have game of the year editions.
Also I have a Wii U. After my little sister finished Mario 3D World it became useless. If sell it I am probably gonna have a 150 dollar lost and I only bought it a month ago or so.
might as well have game of the year editions.
Also I have a Wii U. After my little sister finished Mario 3D World it became useless. If sell it I am probably gonna have a 150 dollar lost and I only bought it a month ago or so.
Interceptor
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Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
You are missing out on a lot of amazing shit. You poor soul.
and it's pretty unreasonable to think that the reason for that is that theres more people giving those games 0 for no reason...
Like others have said, the note that we end up with using user reviews makes more sense than the critic reciews in many cases.