Marky Mark
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Like animal magnetism but deadly.
Halo 5: Guardians Beta Thread | Hot Red on Blue Action
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Gravemind IV
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Probably the most stupid and broken MM system I have ever used. 3 onyx and gold (enemy) vs unranked, gold (me), gold and silver. The unranked went 1 and 17 (0.1) and the silver 1/7 (he went into hiding I suppose). Meanwhile I went from 15-5 to 17-14 because asinine matchmaking and American server advantage starts to take its toll on me.
God this MM blows so much.
God this MM blows so much.
Twilight Gap
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http://www.halopedia.org/Aim_assist
Magnetism defines and outlines how far a bullet will "bend" in order to hit an enemy. Bullets and projectiles do not necessarily travel in a straight path; they will curve very slightly in order to hit a target. Different projectiles will experience different curvatures.
SpiceMelange
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Wow had no idea that bullet actually bent o.o I thought console shooters only had aim assistance
mmazurkiewicz
Member
that is auto aim. someones just created a new buzzword for why auto aim exists.
lol bullet magnetism. please stop using that phrase.
No. Bullet magnetism is just a one part of auto aim.
They're actually two very distinct things. They achieve a similar result but through a very different fashion.
Auto aim actually moves your reticule for you and slows it down when you pass over an enemy, therefore making tracking and aiming at enemies far easier.
Bullet magnetism doesn't affect the reticule at all, instead if you're aiming very near to an enemy it will bend the bullets to hit them.
They're different things so different terminology is fine.
ToyMachine228
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I second this. Not because I use the AR a whole lot, I just found myself liking the game a whole lot more with AR starts than BR. The friend I play with does as well.
Jonesy7707
Member
Ffs...My rank has gone down so much cause of bad kids on my team. It's infuriating.
At least it was UK host
No point blaming the people who are bad at FPS, blame the BS MM. You really think these people want to be matched against hardcore Halo/shooter players when they are just starting out? Not to mention most of these people doing badly are probably fighting a shitload of lag also, I know I do.
People wonder why others go AFK when it's most likely people like yourself talking shit about others making them do so. Not everyone wants to be or has the ability to be as good as a lot of people on here makes themselves out to be.
It's always the same shit....I carried my team and everyone else is just dragging me down. Boo-fucking-hoo!!
mmazurkiewicz
Member
so they're the same thing.
if you're "aiming very near an enemy" then you're reticule must also be very near an enemy in order to hit them.
again, bullet magnetism is BS.
ebullientprism
Member
Jeebus wept. I swear 90% of this thread is like "Some kid went 1-15 in my game wah wah wah".
We get it. You had a bad team mate and de ranked. Life is brutal and unfair.
We get it. You had a bad team mate and de ranked. Life is brutal and unfair.
Twilight Gap
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except that's not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWaDwsGb1c0#t=2m30s
the bullets literally curve towards the player, hence the name magnetism.
magnetism, aim assist, auto aim, aim acceleration, movement acceleration - all very different, very real terms applicable to Halo.
No, they achieve the same result through very different means.
- Bending bullets = bullet magnetism
- Automatically moving your crosshair = auto aim
They're completely different things and so can be called different things. What you're claiming is like saying clamber and double jump are exactly the same, all they do is allow you to get to higher spots on the map.
Agreed.
Bullet magnatism is a more subtle way of helping the player and is less likely to be noticed by the player since it isn't changing how the aiming reticule moves when its on or near a target.
Gravemind IV
Member
I am so done with this kind of crap. What's more is that it feels as if strafing and quick crouches don't matter shit anymore. 1vs1s are won by teammate intervention or host BR. In other words, the guy who can sponge 5-7 BR bursts while he consistently 4 shots everything on the planet while barely ai ming at you.
Yeah I am blaming the matchmaking. But it's still infuriating being dragged down.
And who says I'm talking to shit to them? The whole time I'm communicating and giving call outs to others even if they are completely useless.
So yeah, get off your high horse.
Twilight Gap
Member
bullet magnetism, gravemind. only way to dodge is to thrust or hope the other player has terrible aim.
Seriously wtf is up with the fucking dreadful wait times?? This is supposed to be next gen ffs.
I'm sitting here in a lobby searching for ages. I can't quit the lobby. I've restarted the game..
www.twitch.tv/gameondaily1
It's pathetic.
I'm sitting here in a lobby searching for ages. I can't quit the lobby. I've restarted the game..
www.twitch.tv/gameondaily1
It's pathetic.
Ol No Bones
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The other option is getting rid of aim assist all together and having 98% of people people bitching about how impossible it is to get kills over XBL. There is going to be some aim assist so there is no use griping about it.
Twilight Gap
Member
aim assist isn't the problem. not being able to dodge bullets because of the low strafe and high magnetism is
Ol No Bones
Banned
Its not preferable to wait longer but maybe you could still keep in mind that the game is 10 months away from release.
Whats the beta for then? Testing out how to run lobbies or actually give feedback on the game? Because it's been over a week and we still don't have the ability to back out of a lobby.
Yes it's 10 months away but forgive me for feeling like a mug giving 343 the benefit of the doubt after their numerous missteps.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Awww, I see. I misunderstood. I could get behind higher base moving speed.
Gravemind IV
Member
It baffles me how they tout the low aim assist, while the low movement speed kills strafing and crouching (the entire meta game surrounding 1vs1s) and bullet magnetism delivers de coupe de grace.
Ol No Bones
Banned
There is a difference between, "WTF is wrong with 343 its next Gen and waiting sucks" and "One thing I hope they improve in this game is the matchmaking".
They released a solid beta fairly content rich nearly a year before release and people are using it to bitch rather than talk like adults about what they would like to change.
I can understand why some of you good players are frustrated with having bad team-mates. But at least you're not the one getting constantly owned. I seem to be getting battered every game, generally going 3-13ish.
I can assure you it's more frustrating for me than it is or you. I want to drop my rank but can't seem to be able too. It's putting me off playing the game.
I can assure you it's more frustrating for me than it is or you. I want to drop my rank but can't seem to be able too. It's putting me off playing the game.
Diablohead
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At least when it comes to aiming help in halo it can sort of fit into the lore with how the spartan huds work and all that.
Has network selection improved any lately? not played this since before breakout was released because I was pissed off with connections oversea.
Has network selection improved any lately? not played this since before breakout was released because I was pissed off with connections oversea.
We've given them feedback for ages. I have no right to be frustrated about it? This isn't feedback?
And yes it's pathetic even in beta form to have these basic problems but I guess you and I have different standards of what we consider acceptable.
Jonesy7707
Member
You're saying bad players on your team are causing your rank to drop, that is talking shit about them. If it was the MM you were talking about you could have at least mentioned that in your post.
Lol pretty much. There are so many people here that play, add them up. On top of that, if you run into good players while playing solo, invite them to a party and play together. It's really not that difficult. I still play with people I added randomly back in the Gears 2 days.
How is making a statement of fact talking shit about them? How have you come to make an assumption that I'm the kind of guy who makes these people go AFK.
I simply said that the bad players on my team were dragging my rank down and it was infuriating.
You went ahead and threw your toys out of the pram throwing accusations. Should I spoon feed everything to you from now on?
cartoon_soldier
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Beta has been out for 1 week. Not sure where you were giving feedback for ages.
Sucks they don't have the feature built in, but there is a temporary solution I've been using. Snap Xbox party, create a party and scroll to the bottom and leave multiplayer. That will take you back to the main menu.
2 weeks for me. I mentioned it straight away. And yet we can't back out of a lobby. It's a very basic thing.
Ah cheers for this. I've been quitting the game and restarting. It's been a pain
You do know what a beta is right? I think the word is being misused so much by publishers releasing demos and calling them "betas" that people may have forgotten what an actual beta is like.
Ol No Bones
Banned
2 weeks = Ages. Lol. I'm not sure what pathetic problems you are talking about. Finding games isnt difficult and the game is very fun to play.
Dusktildawn48
Member
Isn't the point of betas just to fix these types of problems?
Stuck in lobbies for ages
Not being able to even leave a match
Horrendous loading times when you do manage to back out from a lobby
Being lumbered in out of regio servers constantly
A ranking system that is broken
Matchmaking that is broken.
Yes two weeks is bloody ages to not even let you leave a lobby!
Yes the game is fun when it works but these niggling problems shouldn't have existed in the first place.
You should NOT be playing betas...
Ol No Bones
Banned
Yes but screaming at the too of your lungs that a game suck (it doesn't at all) isnt constructive. Just address the issue like grown ups. First, because it is more helpful. Second, because it is annoying to read the incessant hyperbole when one flaw minor or otherwise is exposed.
Lmao
Who is saying the game sucks? Instead of taking 343 to task with their mistakes you're here making excuses for them. It's precisely that kind of attitude that allows a mess like TMCC to arise.
Anyway, I hope these problems are ironed out because come the final release of the game, if they do rear their head again, I hope you lot won't be so quick to their defence yet again.
To reiterate, I'm actually loving Halo 5 when it works.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Good thing we played the real beta, the Master Chief Collection beforehand eh?
I hope you're not serious. That's not the same situation at all...
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Just a light joke. Although this beta's list of performance issues does pale in comparision to the myriad of multiplayer issues Master Chief's full price release had though. I've had more playtime in this beta than the MCC's multiplayer. Kind of funny, and sad really.