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[CharlieDigital]

This may be my next car.

Day 1

That's only slightly more than what I paid for my car last year. As the technology matures, the cost/benefit analysis will greatly favor electric.

Don't think the Model 3 is coming until 2017 so we're a good 2-3 actual years out.

With the delays we've seen with the X, it's not unthinkable that it could be 2018 before it's available for sale.

With the volume they are expecting to move at that price point, I wonder how Musk plans to scale up production so rapidly.

 

[Darren870]

Wait they still only do only 200?

This is why the technology hasn't taken off, Id love to go Electrical, but it hasn't taken off in Australia and it will only be pratical when you can do at least 1000km per charge.

What? Why? 200mi/320km is about a tank of gas for me. I'd rather charge my car that put gas in.

 

[CitizenCope]

Really wish pure electric cars were viable in colder climates

Fill a dummy in here.

 

[Naked Snake]

With the volume they are expecting to move at that price point, I wonder how Musk plans to scale up production so rapidly.

GIGAFACTORY

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Fill a dummy in here.

They are plenty viable in cold climates. That poster is misinformed.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The big car manufacturers should probably start shitting their collective pants because Elon Musk is coming for ALL OF THEM.

 

[terrene]

Wait they still only do only 200?

This is why the technology hasn't taken off, Id love to go Electrical, but it hasn't taken off in Australia and it will only be pratical when you can do at least 1000km per charge.

Most gas tanks only get you to 250-300 miles. 1000km (~620 miles) is a ridiculous demand.

 

[riotous]

What? Why? 200mi/320km is about a tank of gas for me. I'd rather charge my car that put gas in.

Tesla Supercharger takes a full hour to charge.. standard charging station only charges you 22 miles in an hour (according to google.)

That's the difference.

For day to day use though, 200 miles is very practical as long as you can charge at home overnight.

 

[Darren870]

Tesla Supercharger takes a full hour to charge.. standard charging station only charges you 22 miles in an hour (according to google.)

That's the difference.

For day to day use though, 200 miles is very practical as long as you can charge at home overnight.

Yea, but I don't understand how that wouldn't be "practical in Australia". Unless you are driving from City to City you would simply charge overnight. No difference to the US.

Obviously these cars aren't ideal for trips that take more then a tank of gas.

 

[Sushi Nao]

This is nice, but electric cars shouldn't be the focus anyway. The huge amount of carbon fuels that could be saved by converting vehicles where space isn't as much of a constraint -- industrial trucks, long-haul, buses, tractors etc. -- is where you can get inroads into cutting pollution. Then your engineering can improve and compact.

The narrative that these cutting edge over-expensive electric cars had to be pushed first is a false choice. There were always better options. Hydrogen or electric battery engines are perfectly viable on large machinery.

 

[Ballistik]

This is great news! They just recently installed 8 supercharger stations about A MILE from where I live, so hurry up Elon and sell me the car. I need this car!

 

[riotous]

Yea, but I don't understand how that wouldn't be "practical in Australia". Unless you are driving from City to City you would simply charge overnight. No difference to the US.

Obviously these cars aren't ideal for trips that take more then a tank of gas.

Yeah that's why I threw in the "still seems practical" comment.. but you can't just go throwing around petrol/diesel range numbers like they are very comparable due to the prevalence of stations and how quickly you can fill.

In the same sense; you can't have your gas/diesel vehicle magically fill up for you in the middle of the night, so that makes an electric more convenient in many ways. If they ever figure out faster charges/battery swaps at stations the electric vehicle will just be more convenient all around in every way.

 

[djSyndrome]

The big car manufacturers should probably start shitting their collective pants because Elon Musk is coming for ALL OF THEM.

Revenge for the big autos pulling out, perhaps.

 

[Naked Snake]

The big car manufacturers should probably start shitting their collective pants because Elon Musk is coming for ALL OF THEM.

Let's be real, Tesla still only sells a fraction of a fraction of global yearly car sales. It's not going to make a big dent in the large pie any time soon.

 

[sarcastor]

This. Tesla has shown they can make an attractive electric car. So I have faith in them.

Tesla Roadster - sexy

Tesla Model S - beautiful

Tesla Model X - wtf?

2 out of 3 aint bad. but then again that's not the finished product :\

 

[Epsilon-delta]

Awesome. My pie in the sky dream is to make sure that the next car I buy is an electric one, and the car after that is autonomous.

Can't wait for autonomous cars to be the majority of vehicles on the road.

 

[komarkaze]

I just bought a Nissan Leaf a couple weeks ago with the plan to own it for a few years, and then trade in for a Tesla Model 3, probably a year after it's been on the market. I'm approaching it like any other piece of technology, where I let the early adopters buy the first model, and I wait a year for the next revision that fixes issues of the first one.

I am certainly loving my Leaf though, and it helps that my office garage has a free charger. In the past three weeks that I've driven my Leaf, I saved so much money on gas and maintenance costs compared to my old car. I recommend an electric car to anyone who can commute to work and back in less than 100 miles a day, has the ability to charge at their home and/or work, and doesn't live in too cold climate since that affects battery range. I'm curious to see the battery range for the next wave of electric cars, and if they will allow battery swaps for current owners for higher capacity ones. Tesla is already experimenting with their older model.

 

[sarcastor]

Wait they still only do only 200? This is why the technology hasn't taken off, Id love to go Electrical, but it hasn't taken off in Australia and it will only be pratical when you can do at least 1000km per charge.

What kind of miracle car are you driving that gets 1,000 km between refills?

 

[No Love]

Definitely, I don't understand why they couldn't go for a Sedan look. Or at the very least, not have such an unorthodox look. Most of the people I talked to about the car tend to attack the design before anything else.

Saw one of these driving around today. It's fucking hideous and embarrassing. It's even lamer than the Smart Car.

 

[Naked Snake]

Tesla Roadster - sexy

Tesla Model S - beautiful

Tesla Model X - wtf?

2 out of 3 aint bad. but then again that's not the finished product :

The X is targeting a different demographic (a large family) who has shit taste

They'll lap it up.

 

[KHarvey16]

This is nice, but electric cars shouldn't be the focus anyway. The huge amount of carbon fuels that could be saved by converting vehicles where space isn't as much of a constraint -- industrial trucks, long-haul, buses, tractors etc. -- is where you can get inroads into cutting pollution. Then your engineering can improve and compact.

The narrative that these cutting edge over-expensive electric cars had to be pushed first is a false choice. There were always better options. Hydrogen or electric battery engines are perfectly viable on large machinery.

Corporations and businesses won't pay a premium for fuel efficient vehicles unless they save money (and they won't, yet), so you need the consumer market to bring the prices of the technologies down first.

 

[Septimus Prime]

For an SUV, the X looks enough like not shit to be ahead of other vehicles in its class.

 

[CharlieDigital]

GIGAFACTORY

Scales battery production but not chassis production.

 

[KHarvey16]

Scales battery production but not chassis production.

If the batteries are cheap everything else will follow.

 

[Amory]

I'm definitely interested in this, as long as it doesn't end up looking like the Chevy Bolt.

is there any particular reason electric vehicles are generally so fugly? can't they just make them look like regular cars?

 

[Robot Pants]

Oh man. I would totally buy this if it came out soon.

Hell yes

 

[Naked Snake]

is there any particular reason electric vehicles are generally so fugly? can't they just make them look like regular cars?

Have you not seen the Model S?

 

[Josh7289]

What's the expected range for these?

This is the most important spec to me.

 

[djSyndrome]

What kind of miracle car are you driving that gets 1,000 km between refills?

Modern VW diesels
Toyota Prius

Hell, I've gotten almost 450 miles in my Mazda 2, and that only has a 10 gallon tank.

 

[DarkFlow]

Have you not seen the Model S?

So one car out of a bunch doesn't look like total shit.

 

[minx]

is there any particular reason electric vehicles are generally so fugly? can't they just make them look like regular cars?

Because that has the same footprint of a Fiesta with more interior room. Same reason The Honda Fit is so popular. Unfortunately with that price I'm scared of how small the Tesla Model 3 will be. Hoping it's the size of a Corolla at least.

 

[Piggus]

Looking forward to the design. The Model S is one of the sexiest cars I've ever seen. Got to sit in one and play around with that center touch screen. Hnnnng.

 

[Amory]

Have you not seen the Model S?

I'm talking about mass market cars.

 

[Trouble]

The X is targeting a different demographic (a large family) who has shit taste

They'll lap it up.

Yup, the same people who buy that fugly ass Porsche SUV.

 

[CharlieDigital]

If the batteries are cheap everything else will follow.

It's not a question of price.

It's a question of logistics.

Their target for 2014 was 33k vehicles.

Assuming the Gigafactory is on schedule and produces batteries at volume, Tesla will need to ramp up chassis production to match.

They will also have to ramp up the support and service network as it can be expected that they will move many times the volumes of Model 3s

 

[Naked Snake]

It's not a question of price.

It's a question of logistics.

Their target for 2014 was 33k vehicles.

Assuming the Gigafactory is on schedule and produces batteries at volume, Tesla will need to ramp up chassis production to match.

They will also have to ramp up the support and service network as it can be expected that they will move many times the volumes of Model 3s

I have a feeling Tony Stark has a plan.

 

[Alchemy]

If only I had a place to charge it at my apartment, I'd love an electric vehicle.

 

[djSyndrome]

Their target for 2014 was 33k vehicles.

Are they still not releasing actual sold-through numbers?

 

[Mac the KNife]

Saw several Tesla cars charging at a hotel in Detroit today.

It's happening.

 

[GatorBait]

If only I had a place to charge it at my apartment, I'd love an electric vehicle.

To me, this is going to have to be one of the next big steps to increase mass market adoption of electric vehicles - it needs to become more available/practical for those living in multi-family residences to have access to chargers.

I'm earmarking money for a Model 3 already, but I don't foresee myself wanting to move out to the suburbs to have a garage/overnight charging access.

 

[potam]

lawwwwwwwd

 

[akachan ningen]

To me, this is going to have to be one of the next big steps to increase mass market adoption of electric vehicles - it needs to become more available/practical for those living in multi-family residences to have access to chargers.

I'm earmarking money for a Model 3 already, but I don't foresee myself wanting to move out to the suburbs to have a garage/overnight charging access.

By the time you can buy this car, they might have a solution ready. The first batch of cars is already sold out.

 

[Blastoise]

Just make it look like a normal car.

I don't want to drive a 1980's future concept.

 

[Sushi Nao]

Corporations and businesses won't pay a premium for fuel efficient vehicles unless they save money (and they won't, yet), so you need the consumer market to bring the prices of the technologies down first.

Unfortunately, they don't save money on it because there's less than zero investment in its advancement. Anyway, I think we'll probably end up with it being a military usage first. They'll eventually develop the tech, and pass it down to a public market, like NASA innovations.

Like I say, this is the false narrative. No one's investing in alternate sources, so it's too expensive, so people have to go back to oil, again

 

[duderon]

It's not a question of price.

It's a question of logistics.

Their target for 2014 was 33k vehicles.

Assuming the Gigafactory is on schedule and produces batteries at volume, Tesla will need to ramp up chassis production to match.

They will also have to ramp up the support and service network as it can be expected that they will move many times the volumes of Model 3s

Tesla updated their Fremont assembly line this summer so that they will be able to produce 100k Model S and X per year in the near future. It can handle more than that given the NUMMI plant once produced hundreds of thousands of cars for Toyota and GM. It is massive.

 

[Tripon]

I love hatchbacks so I hope there is that option.

 

[dallow_bg]

I'm surprised at how many Model S Teslas I've seen driving around.

 

[Intheflorsh]

It will be mine!

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

SOLD

Been wanting one of these. Thought about getting a Model S but if this is gonna provide similar service but half the price then sure, why not?

 

[NateDrake]

If they truly hit that price mark then I'm all in.