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[Rocky]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they got their reasons. I just imagine a parent buying one for the kid for Christmas and it comes without an AC adapter. How's Santa fuckin up an AC adapter

That probably the reason why they didn't release it last November.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they got their reasons. I just imagine a parent buying one for the kid for Christmas and it comes without an AC adapter. How's Santa fuckin up an AC adapter

Indeed, it just takes enough people to shout about the BS to make it stop. If you just ignore it and accept it, then Nintendo is just going to keep pushing how much they can not ship with a console/handheld. You can forget AR Cards or a manual or a stand for your controller.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Would people be happier if they priced it at $220 with a charger? Serious question because that's what they are saying here.

I think people are saying that such an assertion is complete and utter codswallop.

It's not included because they don't want to eat the cost in the margin of the base product and by selling it separately they can also reap a sizable accessory margin.

They obviously aren't going to say this publicly. But it's certainly not being done out of altruism as this PR statement claims.

 

[Derpyduck]

The charger doesn't cost them 20 fucking dollars to make.

That guy they used to pay to roll the cable up and stick it in the box apparently didn't work cheap.

 

[Keyouta]

I think this is showing that they don't really expect new costumers to be buying into the New 3DS, it'd mostly be people upgrading from the DSi or 3DS.

 

[ugh_the_boot]

What is wrong with having all the components needed to get something working out of the box?

It's just a bullshit cashgrab for accessories while getting a bigger margin on a product that would be priced the same with or without the adapter.

What next? No controller because some people like just looking at the fucking menus?! Nintendo you idiots! This practice better stop.

 

[vinnygambini]

Don't want to go on to some tangent on the unrelated Xbox One fiasco, but in that case the internet was seen as a necessary utility, like electricity.

The issue with the Xbox One, the part that would impact consumers, would be after the product was turned on and functional, and only impact those without internet connections (apparently <10% of the new gen audience going be connectivity stats).

This thing with the new 3DS impacts every user, and impedes basic functionality of the device.

I think there's a difference between a 499$ investment where one has no internet connectivity, thus limiting the console usage to niente.

or

Purchase a 3DS adapter for 8$ for full usage

Anywho, Nintendo are lacking in some retrospects such as the missing adaptor, and strive in others. I've made my peace with it but understand people's opinion on the matter nonetheless.

It's a shitty thing to do.

 

[Sinfamy]

Wii U 2 will not come with a controller to save you money in case you have a nunchuck laying around.

 

[Averon]

Rather than raise cost of New Nintendo 3DS XL by charging consumers for a component they may already own, we are giving them the option to only buy if they need an AC adapter."

How convenient. Leave out a critical component that you can sell for a 500% markup.

 

[Oersted]

Yup. Bloody annoying too. The third party alts are mostly garbage too...

Packed in ones are also utter garbage. Travel chargers are way better.

 

[FLAguy954]

The expected answer, but still a shitty one.

Yup, they will not see my ~$200. I'll spend it on complete products and on companies who have better business practices.

 

[jblank83]

Seriously. If Sony did this you know they would go bananas.

Sony charges people $50 a year to play peer to peer multiplayer games online and no one seems upset about it.

But you're right. If they left out the $5 microusb charging cord for the DS4, there would probably be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and many meme pictures for days.

 

[TheSlySoul]

That guy they used to pay to roll the cable up and stick it in the box apparently didn't work cheap.

Congrats on making me laugh.
I will defend the DSi, at least you can choose from regular and XL and it came with a charger.

Edit: I also agree with a poster that people would be upset if the PS4 console did not include a microUSB charger for the controller.

 

[njean777]

Yup, they will not see my ~$200. I'll spend it on complete products and on companies who have better business practices.

Yep, my exact reaction to this.

 

[Revolutionary]

Hey Nintendo, here's an idea: 3DS DIY!
Use your existing 3DS components for maximum money saved!

 

[Daemul]

It's been like this forever in the EU. Pretty common for phones too.

Which phones are these?

 

[Illucio]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they got their reasons. I just imagine a parent buying one for the kid for Christmas and it comes without an AC adapter. How's Santa fuckin up an AC adapter

Oh man. I didn't think of that scenario with Santa! I was more thinking that parents would prefer to put their name on the more expensive gift.

 

[EatinOlives]

Sony charges people $50 a year to play peer to peer multiplayer games online and no one seems upset about it.

But you're right. If they left out the $5 microusb charging cord for the DS4, there would probably be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and many meme pictures for days.

Sony left out the HDMI cable off the PS3 and it was always something people complained about. There's no real inconsistency here. The message is: if you absolutely need X for the hardware to function, include X in the box.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Hey Nintendo, here's an idea: 3DS DIY!
Use your existing 3DS components for maximum money saved!

It will be just the screens and a place to put the cart.
You control the handheld using a Wiimote.

Sony left out the HDMI cable off the PS3 and it was always something people complained about. There's no real inconsistency here. The message is: if you absolutely need X for the hardware to function, include X in the box.

To be fair to Sony, I remember PS3 having composite cables. So at least you have an option. Nintendo is giving you none.

 

[Derpyduck]

Which phones are these?

I think he's wrong. They all appear to come with charging cables, just not the wall adapter.

 

[jblank83]

Sony left out the HDMI cable off the PS3 and it was always something people complained about. There's no real inconsistency here. The message is: if you absolutely need X for the hardware to function, include X in the box.

I remember that. That was pretty funny.

However I disagree. There is an inconsistency: consumer perception of value. We're talking a $5 cable versus lifetime luxury ownership tax of several hundred dollars of almost pure profit charges for lifting the artificial gate on a cost free service.

The free games don't justify that cost. If the free games are such a deal, the service can be sold on the games themselves, without limiting multiplayer.

 

[:Motorbass]

4€ with shipping. get over it.

 

[Fularu]

Nintendo: "But we are saving you money by forcing you to buy our 15 dollar charger at Gamestop"

I also never bought an electronic device without a charger. Get that crap out of here.

Most ebook readers (like the kobo) come naked. Some include a usb cable though

 

[Madness]

Can't see the problem here... That's a pretty reasonable explanation. The console would cost more if they included the adaptor as standard. Now you're saving money if you don't need the adaptor, or paying what it would have cost had they included the adaptor as standard if you buy the adaptor seperately.

So fuck everyone who doesn't have a previous 3DS or DSi? I don't know about your Euro peeps, but when they sell products here, they sell a way to charge them or make sure they function properly.

Imagine selling a new Xbox or Playstation without a power cord or power brick, saying, use your old console ones, despite the fact you may not have a previous console.

 

[Derpyduck]

Sony charges people $50 a year to play peer to peer multiplayer games online and no one seems upset about it.

But you're right. If they left out the $5 microusb charging cord for the DS4, there would probably be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and many meme pictures for days.

Sony at least buys you dinner before they fuck you (free games on PS+).

4&#8364; with shipping. get over it.

So if it's so cheap and easy, why didn't Nintendo do it?

 

[PixyJunket]

 

[CosmicQueso]

I think there's a difference between a 499$ investment where one has no internet connectivity, thus limiting the console usage to niente.

or

Purchase a 3DS adapter for 8$ for full usage

Anywho, Nintendo are lacking in some retrospects such as the missing adaptor, and strive in others. I've made my peace with it but understand people's opinion on the matter nonetheless.

It's a shitty thing to do.

I agree with you, and much of the outrage on the Xone thing was because of that price differential.

That pricing is also why pre-orders stalled and the dramatic turn for MS happened too.

Here? Yeah, it's $5-$10. It won't get the huge outcry. People are obviously still buying the thing.

But at its core, this decision is worse and just so damned disappointing. Why would they want to treat the customer base this way when they need that customer base more now than they ever have before?

Vita thing

As if following any path set by the Vita is the right, or market acceptable, thing to do???? Yowzers.

 

[mikelb7]

Yeah, and people make knock-offs of Lightning Cable.
It doesn't change a damn thing. The typical consumer will be buying it at the shop.

I know you selectively quoted my post, but is that really all you took from it??

Not true. I understand Nintendo is cheaping out big time here but there are USB charging cables for the 3DS which are much cheaper and more versatile than a standard AC adapter.

Again, not excusing Nintendo here at all. Just reminding GAF users that there are cheaper/better options out there for getting your charge on...

I was trying to help steer GAF members towards a product I've found useful. "Typical consumers at the store" aren't "typically GAF members. This is a shitty move by Nintendo and there's no reason for 3DS to not have a micro USB charge port. But regardless of the cables being a knock-off, it exists as a viable (and more convenient) alternative. Again this is a cheap move by Nintendo but the issue is rectified by a $1.96 Amazon purchase. Please calm down.

 

[EatinOlives]

I remember that. That was pretty funny.

Funny thing is, I had read about its exclusion for several years, but when the day came when I bought one that dumb detail had slipped my mind. I opened the box and was like ..... :/ "I guess I'm not using this for another 3 days while I get one on Amazon".

 

[Apdiddy]

I'm more mad about the switch from MiniSD to MicroSD. That means I have to re-download eShop games and use their save method to transfer the saves.

The lack of AC adapter is a given at this point, but also very surprising.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Aw it's touching that Nintendo's trying to save us money! I'm sure this has nothing to do with that darn charging cable cutting into their profits at a tiny $199 per unit.

Did I mention I'm still rooting for them?

 

[TheSlySoul]

Imagine selling a new Xbox or Playstation without a power cord or power brick, saying, use your old console ones, despite the fact you may not have a previous console.

Yeah, I remember the PS3 and PS2 had the same power cord.
This is like if the PS3 came out and they said "well, you have a PS2, use that powercord."

 

[Bytes]

I'm still not sure how it is legal here in the US to sell an electronics device without the charger needed for it to actually run.

I can also imagine there being some parents who are buying the New 3DS for their kid without having ever owned another 3DS and being angry when they don't find the charger in the box.

 

[:Motorbass]

So fuck everyone who doesn't have a previous 3DS or DSi? I don't know about your Euro peeps, but when they sell products here, they sell a way to charge them or make sure they function properly.

Imagine selling a new Xbox or Playstation without a power cord or power brick, saying, use your old console ones, despite the fact you may not have a previous console.

The new 3DS is sold at a reasonable price. It's not like they don't give you the choice. I don't need a 4th charger thx.

 

[bobawesome]

The Vita still comes with its own adapter, though.

 

[canedaddy]

Sony charges people $50 a year to play peer to peer multiplayer games online and no one seems upset about it.

FYI, that $50 also gets you dozens and dozens of free games every year.

 

[Vena]

Sony left out the HDMI cable off the PS3 and it was always something people complained about. There's no real inconsistency here. The message is: if you absolutely need X for the hardware to function, include X in the box.

Monitors leave out the HDMI/DP cables, and will ship (sometimes) either with a DVI or VGA... both of which can be entirely useless for modern cards.

Companies cut corners everywhere, Nintendo just chose to do it with the charger which is stupid.

 

[Daemul]

I think he's wrong. They all appear to come with charging cables, just not the wall adapter.

Yeah, every phone comes with at least a USB cable, which can be used to charge phones. The new 3DS isn't even coming with that sort of thing.

 

[Derpyduck]

Aw it's touching that Nintendo's trying to save us money! I'm sure this has nothing to do with that darn charging cable cutting into their profits at a tiny $199 per unit.

Did I mention I'm still rooting for them?

Me too!

Spoiler

To keep failing

 

[metalslimer]

The new 3DS is sold at a reasonable price. It's not like they don't give you the choice. I don't need a 4th charger thx.

Eh.....

 

[Starwolf_UK]

That packet of Cigarettes doesn't come with any matches. Total BS, fuck you Marlarboro. Imagine if a kid got a packet for Xmas how could he light them without the matches..totally irresponsible.

$10 for a charger, $40 for a 16GB memory card, $60 to play games online.

Eh.

Wait, Vita doesn't come with a charger? Perhaps you meant vs. instead of , .

Speaking of which, following this line of thought I'd prefer Nintendo to not include the useless SD card as well. Come on pass those savings on.

 

[Chindogg]

The Vita still comes with its own adapter, though.

Yeah an $8 adapter is anti-consumer but $40 for 2GB is perfectly ok.

 

[iMax]

Which phones are these?

Posted a link earlier.

I think he's wrong. They all appear to come with charging cables, just not the wall adapter.

Thread title says adapter, which was what I was referring to. I'm aware Nintendo isn't shipping cables either.

 

["D"]

Maybe I'm just being critical or whatever but I feel like an extra 10 dollars added onto the price to include the adapter, won't be a deal breaker for someone who is willing to buy a 229 dollar handheld.

Cost cutting for the consumer or not it's still kinda dumb.

I mean it's just 10 bucks...just include the thing. Sure people will say "well go buy one" but why remove it in the first place...especially on territories that usually come packed with one...that's a confusing message to send to customers

 

[metalslimer]

That packet of Cigarettes doesn't come with any matches. Total BS, fuck you Marlarboro. Imagine if a kid got a packet for Xmas how could he light them without the matches..totally irresponsible.


Wait, Vita doesn't come with a charger? Perhaps you meant vs. instead of , .

Also following this line of though I'd prefer Nintendo to not include the useless SD card as well following their line of thinking.

I can't tell if this is serious or not.

 

[TheSlySoul]

I Again this is a cheap move by Nintendo but the issue is rectified by a $1.96 Amazon purchase. Please calm down.

Oh, ok.
My apologies then. I thought you were one of these people defending their decision.
No one should be defending this, then again people were defending anti-consumer DRM practices. So internet!

 

[MicroByter]

Good to know, I was sick of haVing chargers around the house, glad I won't need another one to clutter up the place.

Oh wait, I'm down to 1 for multiple systems now because they are crapping out.

 

[Dee Dee]

Personally, I was annoyed when I bought my 3DS, realized my DS charger won't do, ordered a cable, and never thought of it again.

Limited editions coming without the game is a much more stupid concept. Not saying the charger thing isn't stupid, but in the long run it does not matter that much.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Yeah an $8 adapter is anti-consumer but $40 for 2GB is perfectly ok.

An idiotic decision made by a company is not okay just because some other company does something equally as idiotic.

 

[jblank83]

FYI, that $50 also gets you dozens and dozens of free games every year.

I don't want the free games. I want free multiplayer.

If the free games are such a great deal, sell the service on the strength of the free games alone and lift the artificial gate on what is in reality cost free peer to peer multiplayer and 3rd party operated servers.