Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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Zen_Arcade
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People to this day complain about the Vita memory card situation when they find out about it. And people frequently list the memory cards as a reason the console has failed.
I don't think anyone's defended anything. Most just point out the insane overreactions.
:Motorbass
Member
you know that doesn't count.
EatinOlives
Member
Yes. I bought the White Vita bundle and it included a 4GB, thankfully, but it wasn't standard and it never was. The Vita 2000 has a small amount of memory to at least let people boot the damn thing.
That said, I haven't upgraded that 4GB and honestly it's one of the main reasons why I don't buy more games for the Vita. At this point I have so many digital games that I have to deal with swapping games and re-downloading them over and over again, not to mention you can't let your PS+ subscription lapse or else you lose the ability to do cloud saving, which is literally one of the two ways to delete your games without having your entire save data deleted with it. The other way is installing proprietary shit on your PC and storing your entire game's back-up in your computer. It's a complete mess and pretty sure part of the reason why the Vita sold so poorly. They made storage, such a simple and straightfoward thing in today's consumer tech, convoluted as fuck just to get people to pay more.
You recall completely wrong, then. The memory card shit was a big deal when it was revealed, and people to this day still complain about it (myself included). Maybe there wasn't as big a shitstorm because frankly the Vita had very hype since the beginning, but that doesn't mean there was no frustration there.
CosmicQueso
Member
Oh sure they did.
Difference is that people proved to be apathetic to the Vita entirely. It failed on other merits completely outside the ridiculous memory card issues.
People want to love Nintendo. There's a difference. And they want Nintendo to be better than this.
Also, none of this is schadenfreude.
You haven't been keeping up with the threads today then, obviously.
TheSlySoul
Member
OMG, does the warranty really say that?
Well you better get the official one if you want to have 1 year protection.
Pro from Dover
Member
"We here at Nintendo listened, and decided to lose the Gamepad for our upcoming Wii U 2."
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
$200 for decade old tech and not even including an AC adapter is hardly reasonable.
I've played the shit out of my 3ds, but come the fuck on that $200 for this tech is reasonable. They just are hoping their hardcore fanbase pays for it so they can string out the 3ds life cycle a little long since sales outside of Japan tanked last year.
This is just another way to squeeze some extra cash for Nintendo.
No they're not lol
Do you think Vita got a pass for it? Why do you think the Vita is dead now? It's because of BS like that (among other things).
I hope for the sake of consumerism that this suffers from the same fate so that it will teach Nintendo to not be so damn cheep.
You would think with the lack of sales on the Wii U it would humble those guys...but nope.
Corronchilejano
Member
Welp...
Quadraphonic
Member
Zen_Arcade
Banned
The principal of being sold a chargeable piece of electronics without it being bundled with the cord to charge it.About what then? If I had the choice, I would choose the SKU WITHOUT charger. Others would choose differently. Can't win them all.
I'd totally buy the cradle though because they are extremely nice
Also, your point about not wanting it makes no sense. You could easily throw your new charger away, problem solved. No one is making you keep it. And part of the reason people are annoyed is we were in fact "Winning them all" by getting these cables in the box for years.
WrenchNinja
Member
There's nothing insane about expecting a charger to come with a device that requires one.
I don't think anyone's defended anything. Most just point out the insane overreactions.
This decision sucks and there is no excusing it. It has a proprie charging cable - without it, you have an expensive paperweight. It probably costs Nintendo a quarter to manufacture. And so they'll sell it separately for five bucks, and some people here are thanking them for keeping costs down?
I think the message here is either Nintendo has given up on growing the market, or they are still desperately looking for any source of cash as they lack confidence in the their current platforms,
I think the message here is either Nintendo has given up on growing the market, or they are still desperately looking for any source of cash as they lack confidence in the their current platforms,
I'm just laughing at people thinking the Vita had it easy for charging insane amounts for its proprietary cards. I'ts baffling, as if they couldn't stand people getting back at Nintendo for pulling something stupid.
Michanical
Member
That's a bit reactionary.
That said, I don't own a DS or 3DS, so the additional cost is makes this $10.00 more than sticker price and it probably wouldn't have cost them that much more to include it and keep the price the same.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Its pretty dumb. I suspect its people who love Nintendo and are willing to overlook every bullshit decision they have made these last 6/7 years.
Sure other companies have their own faults, but this is about Nintendo being assholes, so why bring those companies up?
And I've always had a soft spot for Nintendo. Hell it was what exposed me to gaming. Growing up with a nes was magical.
I had the intention of getting most of those games. So when I buy a sub card I'm okay with it. Hell I hardly even play multiplayer to begin with. But hey, downplay indie titles and other stuff all you want. Doesn't change the fact that ps+ does save me money.
:Motorbass
Member
We know that the 3DS won't last many more years. it was the same with DSi. But what are we discussing right now?
I was just saying that the new model costs as much as the old model with additional features (circle pad included, NFC reader included)
TheSlySoul
Member
Yep.
I bet if I told some people my apartment I rented didn't have AC that I am being selfish for expecting it.
WrenchNinja
Member
It's a diversion tactic. Fanboys have to defend Nintendo so they bring up the poor decisions of other companies. As if it absolves Nintendo of their shitty decisions.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yep. Exactly on point.
Our company cannot do crappy practices because other companies do them too!
Ah, so Nintendo is actually in financial trouble? Guess we know what tactics they will use if it doesn't get better.
I don't think anyone's defended anything. Most just point out the insane overreactions.
Well, I mean... when there are posts like this...
That .gif isn't really all that applicable in this situation.
ugh_the_boot
Banned
Does the unit come fully charged or is this product unsuable out of the box? If so this is one of the dumbest things i've EVER seen from an electronics manufacturer.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It's impossible for Nintendo's diehard fans to do anything other than make excuses for them. They'd rather break out the Sony/Microsoft card.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Wait how do people have more than one adapter?
Wouldn't bother me. Drowning in those white cables here.
What, do you just want to rage into the dark night sky endlessly?
It's discussion on a message board made for discussion.
Is it a cost driven move? Yes, obviously. Is it the most egregious cost driven move of the year, or even of the month? No. So placing the move in industry context brings the discussion to a more relevant place.
Doesn't change the fact that ps+ does save me money.
Good for you. It doesn't save me anything.
Again, if the service is so fantastic, Sony can sell the service based on the strength of the free titles alone, not on artificially gating multiplayer which is almost always cost free (peer to peer or 3rd party servers).
If it's such a great deal, they can even increase the cost of the subscription, and I'm sure people will continue to pay for it.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
ahahha I know seriously
I guess this phrase seems quite apt to describe the thought process:
because Nintendo
Yep. Its a common tactic from fanboys but Nintendo ones are the most vicious.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Surely an adapter bulk produced by Nintendo would cost about a pound, if that? So what they really mean is, they are not including the profit they would make from a charger you may not need in the core product. They just sell it to you with that profit separately, should you need it.
TheSlySoul
Member
My guess is that it is just charged enough to turn on and register so you can check if you have a DOA product. That is what many smart phones do.
It's classic console warrior deflection.
....Sure Nintendo, that is a completely valid excuse :l. Its not like you are trying to get NEW buyers for your console anything, nope. ONLY people who got 2DS's/3DS's in the past are only getting these 'New' 3DS's 
.
Dat lying man XD! They are just being cheap and trying to get an extra 8-12 bucks out of peoples pockets through gutting the damn source of power that runs the system people are buying new :l.
I'm happy with my 2DS, so I'm not getting this but common man! There is going to be a lot of new buyers for this 'New' 3DS that are either uninformed parents getting this for their kids wanting the new Zelda, gamers holding out for the most powerful version of the 3DS or complete newcomers into the Nintendo echo system. All of those people are going buy the 'New' 3DS XL not knowing they need the charger.....then they come home and find out they can't even power the damn thing, then trudge back to the store and grit their teeth, buying the thing that should be included in the damn box to begin with X(.
I'm pissed at this due to how this bites for people going through the GameStop upgrade method to get a New 3DS; they have to give up their system WITH the power adapter.....to get half credit toward this new 3DS, then buy the adapter AGAIN due to the damn thing not being included X(.
....In the past I've been pissed with Soony on how they treat the Vita but.....Nintendo just reached a whole new low with how they are handling the launch of the 'New' 3DS XL (and not even giving people the chance to get the cheaper platform; only stuck with the big version that is the most pricey X().
.Dat lying man XD! They are just being cheap and trying to get an extra 8-12 bucks out of peoples pockets through gutting the damn source of power that runs the system people are buying new :l.
I'm happy with my 2DS, so I'm not getting this but common man! There is going to be a lot of new buyers for this 'New' 3DS that are either uninformed parents getting this for their kids wanting the new Zelda, gamers holding out for the most powerful version of the 3DS or complete newcomers into the Nintendo echo system. All of those people are going buy the 'New' 3DS XL not knowing they need the charger.....then they come home and find out they can't even power the damn thing, then trudge back to the store and grit their teeth, buying the thing that should be included in the damn box to begin with X(.
I'm pissed at this due to how this bites for people going through the GameStop upgrade method to get a New 3DS; they have to give up their system WITH the power adapter.....to get half credit toward this new 3DS, then buy the adapter AGAIN due to the damn thing not being included X(.
....In the past I've been pissed with Soony on how they treat the Vita but.....Nintendo just reached a whole new low with how they are handling the launch of the 'New' 3DS XL (and not even giving people the chance to get the cheaper platform; only stuck with the big version that is the most pricey X().
Corronchilejano
Member
DSs break, and sometimes you have more than one family member with one. And, In my case, I have one for home and another one I carry around.
Yeeeuch. They're assholes.
The other day I got a used 3DS charger at GS for $10. It has a USB on the other side, too, so I can charge it with my PC/battery packs.
I mean, it's better than nothing?
Coolio McAwesome
Member
I don't want to be forced to pay extra money for something I already own. Anyone that needs an adapter can buy one. Those who don't, won't have to pay extra for something they have no use for.
ScreamingTrees
Member
I don't think it's just to save money they're not providing the charger, I think it also is to do with shelf space. The charger takes up room in the box so the boxes have to be bigger so they can't stack as many consoles in the shops or when shipping.
In Europe, when you see the OG 3DS stacked it takes a good bit more space than any of the 3DS XLs which have smaller boxes.
In Europe, when you see the OG 3DS stacked it takes a good bit more space than any of the 3DS XLs which have smaller boxes.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Mine came half charged out of the box. Needed a charger pretty fast.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, and Sony learned that not including a memory card was dumb and decided to do that for the next shipment they batched.
I am hoping all this backlash makes Nintendo realize that they should include it in future shipments for free. If you are desperate for money, publish more Pokemon Shuffles.
Glad I was right. Most tech companies have standard practices. Nintendo just decided the standard practice of including a charger for your new tech was costing them too much money.
Then take a step back and imagine how it would affect the average consumer.
