Well, none that I know of, but that wasn't my point. A lot of phones that ship with microUSB connections don't come with chargers nowadays.
Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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Well, none that I know of, but that wasn't my point. A lot of phones that ship with microUSB connections don't come with chargers nowadays.
This. Having a USB-3DS cord has been SO much more convenient and cheaper than an additional charger. The one I linked is $2. I've used it with a 2DS as well as the OG 3DS and a 3DS XL. I've used it with Samsung/Apple/generic USB power plugs in both the EU and North America and had absolutely no problems at all. Also works perfectly with USB batteries for extended life. Would highly recommend purchasing one of these instead of a standard Nintendo AC adapter
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-USB-Charge-Cable-Nintendo-DS/dp/B0096SQTQ6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421279680&sr=8-2&keywords=HDE%C2%AE+Usb+Charge+Cable+For+Nintendo+3Ds%2FDsi%2FXl
Gonzo The Great
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My favorite was the guy who claimed that Nintendo is doing this in order to be ecologically friendly and reduce waste.
TheSlySoul
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I bet Ubisoft is happy like "We are not the target anymore!"
Seriously. If Sony did this you know they would go bananas.
Lol, is this a reference to that thread that said the Wii U was the better console since it uses less energy and saves the environment?
Commanche Raisin Toast
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This.
The cost of manufacturing on those doesn't cost what those chargers retail for. There would have been little to no added cost.
So instead of paying $199 you'd pay $200.
CosmicQueso
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If the 3DS accepted a standard power input like microUSB this wouldn't be an issue. The thing is proprietary. That's the problem.
Someone in one of the other threads brought it up as why it was a good thing lol.
Revolutionary
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Guess how much it costs Nintendo. Hint: it's a lot less than $10
metalslimer
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That sucks, but at least then you don't have to buy overpriced proprietary ones. Even though an HDD costs more, the decision to not include one with the Wii U is still more consumer friendly because you don't have to use proprietary ones.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Never purchased a phone here in the UK without a charger but, indeed, it's been like this with the 3DS ever since the XL came out nearly 2 years ago.
Blackstarhat
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Phones dont come with chargers in the eu ?
Miles Quaritch
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Yup. Bloody annoying too. The third party alts are mostly garbage too...
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Not your best post Cosmic
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109
What if I had an internet outage?
TheSlySoul
Member
Exactly. It is a charger only Nintendo sells. If they truly cared about the option, they would have included a converter that lets you charge it with micoUSB. I bet they could make it for $1. The truth is they want to make money by charging for things that should be standard.
Hell, even all of my android devices have come with a microusb and USB adapter. Its a standard thing.
LeGourmand
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They either charge you for it or you pay for it on the side at the end you'll pay the same price (if you need it) so i don't really see the problem there.
There should be a big sticker on the box or something saying that there's no charger.
There should be a big sticker on the box or something saying that there's no charger.
Memorabilia
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Wait, what? You have to buy a charger separately if you don't already own a previous model that came with one? I feel like I have to be missing something here because that is just retarded at face value....
Yeah, I agree. The fact that Nintendo's already done it elsewhere doesn't excuse it; I think the decision to exclude the charger in general, regardless of region, works more against the consumer than it does help them, it's just that now NA has joined the list.
It doesn't help that, unlike Japan, they released the original XL with the AC adapter in NA, so it makes you wonder why they decided to exclude it this time if they didn't before. I guess the desire for them to save some money is stronger now as opposed to then.
EatinOlives
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"You can't prove it" isn't really a proper rebuttal. In fact, Nintendo is relying exactly on the consumer not know exactly how little the chargers cost to say hollow PR like this.
You don't need "proof" to know that a simple AC charger doesn't cost anywhere near the $15 MSRP they're charging for. Power chargers are literally everywhere and have been for decades. It's extremely common knowledge that charging cables are only proprietary if the manufacturer wants to squeeze more dollars out of consumers. Every other company who isn't a cheap bastard simply makes their chargers non-proprietary. Through the most basic logic you can also easily tell that every other hardware manufacturer is including charging cables and USB-to-AC plug adapters because they really cost nothing to make. At this point that's not a cost that anyone takes into consideration.
Now, if you want to plug your ears and go "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU CUZ YOU CAN'T PROVE IT", that's your prerogative, but that's you willfully ignoring reality and drinking the Nintendo Kool-Aid, it's not us making completely baseless assumptions.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Bitmap Frogs
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That's Nintendo for you.
Making awesome games and stupid managing decisions.
Making awesome games and stupid managing decisions.
Not true. I understand Nintendo is cheaping out big time here but there are USB charging cables for the 3DS which are much cheaper and more versatile than a standard AC adapter.
Again, not excusing Nintendo here at all. Just reminding GAF users that there are cheaper/better options out there for getting your charge on...
CosmicQueso
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Not your best post Cosmic
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109
Don't want to go on to some tangent on the unrelated Xbox One fiasco, but in that case the internet was seen as a necessary utility, like electricity.
The issue with the Xbox One, the part that would impact consumers, would be after the product was turned on and functional, and only impact those without internet connections (apparently <10% of the new gen audience going be connectivity stats).
This thing with the new 3DS impacts every user, and impedes basic functionality of the device.
Listen, both sucked. But I'm saying that this is as bad if not worse a decision for the NA market.
At a time when Nintendo needs to do everything it can to nurture and grow its customer base, it does this instead. It hurts my brain trying to understand it. If the cost savings were $5, I'd understand it. But you're talking a dollar. It make no sense financially or in terms of consumer experience.
Yes, Ubisoft is definitely glad that no one is paying them any attention over shipping broken games for 60$+ with DLC microtransactions...
... Over an adapter that one can buy for 2$.
DarthWalden
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Why do they have to use a proprietary adaptor? Why can't they just use USB 2.0 like every other device.... Then they don't have to worry about people like me not buying there device because of shit like this.
Who was saying Nintendo was pro consumer in another thread?
Who was saying Nintendo was pro consumer in another thread?
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, and people make knock-offs of Lightning Cable.
It doesn't change a damn thing. The typical consumer will be buying it at the shop.
Well yeah, they have two systems out now that are underperforming each previous handheld/console they have ever released, other than the virtual boy. We already saw from Mario kart 8's obvious rushed design that they are hurting financially so it makes sense.
Schreckstoff
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What does O2 do with the chargers they get from OEMs, I doubt they get their own SKUs.
I guess some phones are sold w/o charger.
StarStabbedMoon
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They do, you can buy them anywhere. He's talking about decades into the future after Nintendo has long since moved on, similar to the Gamecube component cables that go for alot of money simply because of lack of supply.
And yes the pro controller does use mini USB.
lol
Commanche Raisin Toast
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Would to be happy if Sony and ms actually added the retail cost of the cables and controller to the retail cost of a PS4 wherein they are contained? Because I guarantee you they aren't doing it that way.
Bony Manifesto
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Except they say they still bundle a USB charge cable with all their phones. Nintendo isn't even doing that.
amazon has been doing this with their kindles.
Its bull. Frankly its delivering an unusable product. Especially bad with Nintendo since its not a cell phone charger but their own unique power supply. At least there is a better shot of having something to charge the kindle, if its your first DS you bought for a young kid...you are SOL (think xmas) until you can go to the store. Welcome to Nintendo.
Its bull. Frankly its delivering an unusable product. Especially bad with Nintendo since its not a cell phone charger but their own unique power supply. At least there is a better shot of having something to charge the kindle, if its your first DS you bought for a young kid...you are SOL (think xmas) until you can go to the store. Welcome to Nintendo.
Silent_Ocarina
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It doesn't really matter how cheap the charger is. Not including it is pretty anti-consumer.
Exactly with amiibo, double down on all our hardcore fans.
TheSlySoul
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Yeah, so I can buy a Lightning Cable for $5 online.
Apple sells them for $20.
If the iPhone 6 didn't come with a Lightning Cable by default, people would be just as pissed.
Exactly.
If you support this, Nintendo is going to think it is ok to not include a controller in their next console. It is ok because you can get a Wiimote $10 online. HERPA DERP!
No idea. They might be able to buy them at a lower cost or sell them back.
metalslimer
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Amazon includes a usb cable, so you can charge it with anything that takes a usb port. This makes a hell of a lot more sense than nothing at all, and if Nintendo did it it would be fine.
In that link it says the phones include a USB cable that can be used to recharge the battery, so at least some means of charging the battery is provided.
They should. I have a 3DS->USB cable and I just use that. It's great.
Which Kindle? Every single Kindle I see on their site comes with a USB charging cable. They did stop including the wall charger a year or two ago though.
PixyJunket
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$10 for a charger, $40 for a 16GB memory card, $60 to play games online.
Eh.
Eh.
Mechanized
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The charger doesn't cost them 20 fucking dollars to make.