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Gaf-Hop |OTXII| Avocado Booty Appreciation Thread
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Just sorta hasn't made anything good since 04/05. Amazing creative spurt in a couple years then a sharp anemic fall off usually means drug burnout to me.
PhoenixDark
Banned
DOOM doesn't have drug problems. His "fall" is moreso due to changes in the legality of samples and being lazy. Dude is sitting on tons of likely dope music that he seemingly has no interest in releasing, in part due to sample issues. Born Like This isn't a bad album, it's just hurt by the inability to shamelessly sample cartoons and some bad beats. That Madlib beat on there (Absolutely) is fire tho...whew.
Lyrically that JJ DOOM album is cool, I just don't like the production. It doesn't really fit his style overall.
Storm Chamber
Banned
That 3 year period of brilliance though
If Doomstarks really comes out this year (highly doubt it), I don't think it'll be the album we were waiting on in 2006.
I think that album is a textbook example of the rapper and producer never being in the studio at the same time.
If Doomstarks really comes out this year (highly doubt it), I don't think it'll be the album we were waiting on in 2006.
I think that album is a textbook example of the rapper and producer never being in the studio at the same time.
PhoenixDark
Banned
On Madlib...dude was baked out his mind for awhile. I'll never forget how excited I was in 2010 when that "year of Madlib/Madlib Medicine Show" thing happened. 13 planned albums, seemed like the greatest idea ever. I liked the various international music mixtapes, especially the Brazil one, but the actual Madlib albums were very mixed. I liked the jazz album. The Africa beats album was especially disappointing to me at the time; maybe I'd have a different opinion today but back then ehhh.
I just don't think he has really matched the brilliance of Beat Konducta Vol 5-6: Dil Cosby & Dil Withers Suite. And while most of the Madlid Medicine Show stuff was disappointing, at least that year gave us In Search of Stony Jackson. Honestly those two albums were really the last time I was truly blown away by Madlib until this year with Pinata.
Don't remind me of the OJ Simpson album.
I just don't think he has really matched the brilliance of Beat Konducta Vol 5-6: Dil Cosby & Dil Withers Suite. And while most of the Madlid Medicine Show stuff was disappointing, at least that year gave us In Search of Stony Jackson. Honestly those two albums were really the last time I was truly blown away by Madlib until this year with Pinata.
Don't remind me of the OJ Simpson album.
Rastafarian42
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(that's the project with Ghostface)
Nice that single was dope.
Read trough the last couple of pages. To be fair, I guess calling people a fuckboy (had to look it up) can be off putting if you want to be open to other Gaffers posting here. But on the other hand, no one should take the internet too seriously. The guy calling me that doesn't know me so there can't be much meaning behind it. And if there was, that's his problem innit. Coming from Footy Gaf the intervention talk about being more open for newcomers was all too familiar
Also smacktalk and hiphop go kind of hand in hand I'd say. Y'all be a bunch of fuckboys if there wasn't any.
Also smacktalk and hiphop go kind of hand in hand I'd say. Y'all be a bunch of fuckboys if there wasn't any.
Read trough the last couple of pages. To be fair, I guess calling people a fuckboy (had to look it up) can be off putting if you want to be open to other Gaffers posting here. But on the other hand, no one should take the internet too seriously. The guy calling me that doesn't know me so there can't be much meaning behind it. And if there was, that's his problem innit. Coming from Footy Gaf the intervention talk about being more open for newcomers was all too familiar
Also smacktalk and hiphop go kind of hand in hand I'd say. Y'all be a bunch of fuckboys if there wasn't any.
What the fuck are you talking about?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Let me translate for our soccer loving newcomer. Just imagine they're just calling you a cunt. It's said in the same spirit. AKA not real serious.
I mean, I think. Some people have come ITT and tried to act real street, but you know. We share space with furries and people who defend anime body pillows. It's NeoGAF, not South Central LA circa 93.
I mean, I think. Some people have come ITT and tried to act real street, but you know. We share space with furries and people who defend anime body pillows. It's NeoGAF, not South Central LA circa 93.
I'm crying right now. You said what I wanted to say but couldn't find the words for.
Yeah, I figured as much. That's why I didn't bother that post. And this is a community, so 'rules' are a bit of a free flow anyways. You can say things in here that would get you banned in OT.
You're right, I always wait for people to settle in before I call them a cunt. That's life.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
tbh, this is a den of cunts.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Alright, so the reset this page, I'm going to listen to this Lupe today. I already know y'all hate it, but I still have high hopes. You can never tell though, because Lupe stans loved Lasers and Lupe haters would hate if he dropped a legit classic in 2015.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Looking forward to the album and I hope it's not another concept record. 36 Seasons is dope but I feel like these tightly structured narratives prevent Ghost from truly being Ghost. The abstract lyrics and random lines go out the window in favor of a scripted story; there's no room for Ghost to go get that butter almond before a bit, or bust a nut in his son's girlfriend's hair. I miss that Ghost.
Yep, JJ said he sent DOOM a bunch of beats and DOOM just rapped over the ones that he liked and sent them back to JJ.
He could hop on some more Flying Lotus production doe, examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4dv3RQe50I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcS_AHCAWG0
Finding them words was easy for me lol.
Yeah I'm loving the album, got it playing right now. Considering writing my first review for it if I got time.
Except for Madvillain I haven't listened much of MF Doom. But as an avid Gorillaz fan I have to mention November Has Come, so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrdI2iC-sYY
What should I check out from Doom?
What should I check out from Doom?
Anything he's done before 2010.
Check out Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villian
It's Doom under one of his aliases and it's my favorite project overall, even edging out madvillain
Rastafarian42
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I think it'll be more what you're looking for I think he wants to do just that but with a similar jazz live band sound of 36 seasons.
He's done some stuff with aliases so:
MF Doom - Mmm Food , Operation Doomsday
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
freenudemacusers
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first post here. eminem is my favorite artist. really impressed by shady xv and how he could rap without a beat. wish more rappers tried this.
haven't heard of most of the stuff i've seen in here, some of it sounds like dance music which i like too.
haven't heard of most of the stuff i've seen in here, some of it sounds like dance music which i like too.
This is funnier than it should be
Discotheque
Banned
yungsnuggles, was that your drake mix i heard on soundcloud? shit was laflame
theignoramus
Member
Putting aside commercial hype and the coattails of critical acclaim from a couple legendary solo albums, do Jay Em or Nas have better solo careers than Raekwon, Ghostface or Method Man?
I dunno.
Got his original link?
IrishNinja
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caught up after a long weekend, kinda glad storm went in on newjacks talkin greasy about classics but then it's not that serious
might be?
If it wasn't, it must've been escobar
Danny's made some fantastic albums and that track's great too, i don't really see the backlash myself
heaven forbid
what this thread really needs is more ye fuckbois :moonface:
ah, you found it! was hoping you would, and also was hoping there'd be new shit on it too. i wasn't sure which demo stuff you'd heard before
^co-signed
also forever cosigning CRS' dolppelgangaz push
for real count? so WW doesn't even register out there?
oh god, that thread even had images explaining the depth too
ya'll just don't know
best advice one can give, been on this shit since last fall and it's been a ride
damn, i must've missed that bit but fair fucks, there it is...man what a shitty list from a shitty artist
see i wanna talk some shit about confirmation bias but i still havent heard it yet & will go in thinking it's booty so there it is...for real though, the GOAT talk always seems to come from heads that you know ain't listen to shit else & just assume migos/thugger is all that's going on right now
here for this, so hard
Ghost has been so consistent for a minute now, and i love this pairing
i hear you, but this still feels more like a one-over, yeah? i mean i guess you could say Ghostdini & a few others went for thematic but that really feels more an outlier than the standard Starks LP, really not getting a theme vibe from the one track we heard at least
stay blessed, yungsnuggles~
might be?
If it wasn't, it must've been escobar
Danny's made some fantastic albums and that track's great too, i don't really see the backlash myself
Welcome bro, hope you stick around.
I hope you're not a Nas stan
heaven forbid
what this thread really needs is more ye fuckbois :moonface:
ah, you found it! was hoping you would, and also was hoping there'd be new shit on it too. i wasn't sure which demo stuff you'd heard before
^co-signed
also forever cosigning CRS' dolppelgangaz push
for real count? so WW doesn't even register out there?
oh god, that thread even had images explaining the depth too
ya'll just don't know
best advice one can give, been on this shit since last fall and it's been a ride
damn, i must've missed that bit but fair fucks, there it is...man what a shitty list from a shitty artist
see i wanna talk some shit about confirmation bias but i still havent heard it yet & will go in thinking it's booty so there it is...for real though, the GOAT talk always seems to come from heads that you know ain't listen to shit else & just assume migos/thugger is all that's going on right now
(that's the project with Ghostface)
here for this, so hard
Ghost has been so consistent for a minute now, and i love this pairing
i hear you, but this still feels more like a one-over, yeah? i mean i guess you could say Ghostdini & a few others went for thematic but that really feels more an outlier than the standard Starks LP, really not getting a theme vibe from the one track we heard at least
stay blessed, yungsnuggles~
First Impressions - Joey Bada$$' B4.DA.$$
More and more I find that if a project doesn't surprise me or have some exceptional standouts, I pretty much never go back to it. This album pretty much has neither, but it's solid. Joey doing what he does best and not making excuses for it. I can't lie, it taps into the feel of old school boom bap for me, and it does hook me in. I feel it. I'm knocking my head to this. Part of me feels wrong for doing so, but the more I listen, it's kind of an irrational feeling. The songs are just good, and Joey is transparent about his influences and him still learning as a super young MC that some of the cognitive dissonance is kind of removed.
Some of the references, sound effects and melodies are really explicit in what they're trying to evoke, to the point where I can see this really annoying Nas, Wu, etc. fans, and I can totally understand that. Despite this, he's really flowing on a lot of these joints, and I'm a sucker for when an MC sounds really comfortable on the mic and that comes across for me. Just a lot of good songs, nothing too crazy, but there aren't many tracks on here I'd outright call bad either, and if they are, they're the bonus tracks. Standouts are probably Paper Trail$, Big Dusty and Hazeus View.
First Impressions - Lupe Fiasco's Tetsuo & Youth
The messages on this project are ham-fisted and delivered with little finesse. May as well have called K.R.I.T. over to do the hook; NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR. Most of the features are middling, and I don't mind Nikki Jean but.. there's too much of her. Dots and Lines and Chopper are just cringeworthy. Songs are kind of a mixed bag as well. The singles + Mural are stellar (Mural gets better as it goes on, and still keeps my attention despite being so long), and Madonna is an early SotY contender but the rest are decent to forgettable.
I don't know. I need to give it another listen but something about it isn't sticking. Mural sets a really good tone and then it sort of dissolves and almost feels generic at times? I think stuff like Nikki Jean on like 3 tracks contributes to that sort of homogenous texture. There's nothing really gripping or a hook that the album has that carries it. Production goes up and down, Lupe's performance on the mic goes up and down, and the songs themselves kind of go up and down, often down.
More and more I find that if a project doesn't surprise me or have some exceptional standouts, I pretty much never go back to it. This album pretty much has neither, but it's solid. Joey doing what he does best and not making excuses for it. I can't lie, it taps into the feel of old school boom bap for me, and it does hook me in. I feel it. I'm knocking my head to this. Part of me feels wrong for doing so, but the more I listen, it's kind of an irrational feeling. The songs are just good, and Joey is transparent about his influences and him still learning as a super young MC that some of the cognitive dissonance is kind of removed.
Some of the references, sound effects and melodies are really explicit in what they're trying to evoke, to the point where I can see this really annoying Nas, Wu, etc. fans, and I can totally understand that. Despite this, he's really flowing on a lot of these joints, and I'm a sucker for when an MC sounds really comfortable on the mic and that comes across for me. Just a lot of good songs, nothing too crazy, but there aren't many tracks on here I'd outright call bad either, and if they are, they're the bonus tracks. Standouts are probably Paper Trail$, Big Dusty and Hazeus View.
First Impressions - Lupe Fiasco's Tetsuo & Youth
The messages on this project are ham-fisted and delivered with little finesse. May as well have called K.R.I.T. over to do the hook; NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR NO FOOD CUZ IM POOR. Most of the features are middling, and I don't mind Nikki Jean but.. there's too much of her. Dots and Lines and Chopper are just cringeworthy. Songs are kind of a mixed bag as well. The singles + Mural are stellar (Mural gets better as it goes on, and still keeps my attention despite being so long), and Madonna is an early SotY contender but the rest are decent to forgettable.
I don't know. I need to give it another listen but something about it isn't sticking. Mural sets a really good tone and then it sort of dissolves and almost feels generic at times? I think stuff like Nikki Jean on like 3 tracks contributes to that sort of homogenous texture. There's nothing really gripping or a hook that the album has that carries it. Production goes up and down, Lupe's performance on the mic goes up and down, and the songs themselves kind of go up and down, often down.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Was, goddamn it. Was. And I was young.
Okay, so I know some of y'all think I'm going to stan for this Lupe album, but the tracks before Fall are useless. Mural is like Rap God, technically impressive but not saying shit. It's okay for a rappity rap track, but it's way too long and had me actively resisting the skip button by minute 4.
The next few tracks are woefully misplaced love songs. Just dull, paint by numbers lovey dopey shit. Pass.
Prisoners 1&2 is great. I'm about to listen to the rest of it now. So far though, 1 out of 4 tracks is not a good ratio.
Okay, so I know some of y'all think I'm going to stan for this Lupe album, but the tracks before Fall are useless. Mural is like Rap God, technically impressive but not saying shit. It's okay for a rappity rap track, but it's way too long and had me actively resisting the skip button by minute 4.
The next few tracks are woefully misplaced love songs. Just dull, paint by numbers lovey dopey shit. Pass.
Prisoners 1&2 is great. I'm about to listen to the rest of it now. So far though, 1 out of 4 tracks is not a good ratio.
IrishNinja
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Why you ready to die? You just a baby
Why them tears up under your eyes? You just a baby
Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby
Quit chasing money, never mind, you just a baby
Why you wanna be born again? You just a baby
Why you playing in the streets? You just a baby
#LEVELS
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Irish. You alright bro?
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